JP2C this year...JH2C next year??

[metalfan32]

I'd love to see Mesa and Hetfield get together and do a unique amp. He's used many different Mesa's over the years for his studio and live tone. A lot of his Mesa amps are modified so they would have alot of options to come up with something different and unique.

With the JP2C coming out now IMO doing another 2C+ and calling it a JH2C would be kind of redundant now.

Agreed!

 

[Racerxrated]

Not if its a JH2C++, as Art suggested. Maybe he's kidding but there aren't a lot of those modified 2C++ around. One thing about that mod, you lose the clean channel pretty much...with a new design I'd bet you'd keep one. And that's Hetfields SIG...the ++ mod to a 2C+.

 

[Stumplegriltskin]

and JHFC arrives the year after

 

[Mailman1971]

I think he pulls off playing this recto pretty damn good.

 

[steve_k]

if JH wanted a sig amp from Mesa, they would give him one. to date, he has never accepted any endorsement of an amp manufacturer. which, sets him apart from the many other musicians.

 

[acalaf]

A Hetfield signature amp would sell at least 10 times more than a pretrucci signature amp, or any other player for that matter. To insinuate that Hetfield is irrelevant now and that the time to really market and sell his signature amp has passed is prepoterous, especially when people buy and rave about signature amps from players with lesser influence like jerry cantrell, steve stevens, kerry king, etc.

 

[steve_k]

A Hetfield signature amp would sell at least 10 times more than a pretrucci signature amp, or any other player for that matter. To insinuate that Hetfield is irrelevant now and that the time to really market and sell his signature amp has passed is prepoterous, especially when people buy and rave about signature amps from players with lesser influence like jerry cantrell, steve stevens, kerry king, etc.

agreed. it would be the biggest short term seller mesa boogie built without a doubt.

 

[NewWorldMan]

When kids going into college have only seen you release 1 or 2 albums in their entire lifetime (one of which was "St Anger", no less) and only 1 album since they were in kindergarten, I would say yes...relevance becomes subjective...

Metallica is to the 2010's what Led Zeppelin was to the 1990's - an iconic and legendary band everyone knows about, knows songs from, and thinks back on fondly...but its mostly the 30-40+ crowd that still talk like their heyday was yesterday. They will release an album like Plant and Page did, it'll shoot to #1 and be all the rage...for about 5 minutes while they tour for it...then they'll fall back into relative obscurity for another 10 years until they release another album again, all the while fanboys rave about how the newer albums don't live up to the old ones.

Yes, I'm giving a harsh assessment, but let's face it. I'm a Metallica fanboy that grew up on the classic albums and still remember standing in line when the record store opened on the release day for The Black Album...but this isn't the 1990's anymore.

 

[Racerxrated]

But, because of the age/buying power of Mesa's target market(us) I agree that this amp would be the best selling Mesa maybe ever. Almost as big as if Marshall did an EVH signature plexi.....almost.

 

[steve_k]

But, because of the age/buying power of Mesa's target market(us) I agree that this amp would be the best selling Mesa maybe ever. Almost as big as if Marshall did an EVH signature plexi.....almost.

ever is a long time! sales wise, yes, it would be a top seller. i don't think they could keep them on the shelves for many months.

 

[jlb32]

I think he pulls off playing this recto pretty damn good.

Hetfield seems to love the Trem-o-verbs. Can't blame him. To me they are the best sounding Rectifiers Mesa has made.

 

[jlb32]

if JH wanted a sig amp from Mesa, they would give him one. to date, he has never accepted any endorsement of an amp manufacturer. which, sets him apart from the many other musicians.

Mesa has never seemed to be interested in doing any signature amps until recently. With the way the market is they may be changing their mind and going after more artists to do signature amps. Mesa and Hetfield would definitely be a HUGE seller considering Hetfield has never did a signature amp with anyone.

 

[skoora]

Wouldn't it need to be a Kirk Hammett sig 2C+ as it was his Boogies that James used.

Marshall could then make a JH sig 800 so you could slave the sig 2C into it so it would be like how they used it. And don't forget the JH sig Parametric EQ's you'll need....

 

[NewWorldMan]

Wouldn't it need to be a Kirk Hammett sig 2C+ as it was his Boogies that James used.

Marshall could then make a JH sig 800 so you could slave the sig 2C into it so it would be like how they used it. And don't forget the JH sig Parametric EQ's you'll need....

That's pretty funny. Hetfield may be better known, but Peteucci a has been the bigger user. My first thought when I heard Petrucci was getting the first (so far only) signature model was..."Why not Hetfield?" But, it does make sense when you put it all into perspective.

Two of the iconic albums - "Kill 'Em All" and "Ride the Lightning" - were exclusively Marshall amps and cabs. By "Master of Puppets" you had the IIC+, but sometimes slaved into Marshall's, and Marshall cabs were used. "Justice?" Mostly Boogie, but Marshall cabs. "The Black Album" was Boogie, but mostly Marshall cabs for crunch and had some Marshall mixed in. After that, it's been a mixed bag. Starting 20 years ago on "Load" and moving forward, you can't even count how many amps were on the albums. There's Boogie in the mix, but tons of other stuff with it. In recent years it's been as much other stuff as Boogie, and then despite playing minimal tour dates with millions in the bank, he opted to switch to Fractal live because he didn't want to foot the freight bill.

Petrucci? With the exception of a little on the first album or so, it's been all Boogie. He's released 9-10 albums alone that were 100% Boogie (and toured exclusively with said gear) just in the time span that Hetfield and crew released their last 2 albums that were a mixed bag of amps and stopped using Boogie live.

Would a Hetfield amp sell? Sure, but he's not been quite the advocate for Mesa that Petrucci has been and I think most of the younger crowd now look at Metallica the way I did Zeppelin growing up.

 

[metalfan32]

Led Zepplin in the 90's were basically irrelevant. Metallica in the 2010's still headline the biggest festivals in the world.

You will still see teenagers wearing the Metallica shirts and I think their early classics will stand the test of time with the younger generations. Not knocking led Zepplin I just think that's a bad comparison.

 

[NewWorldMan]

You will still see teenagers wearing the Metallica shirts and I think their early classics will stand the test of time with the younger generations...

That basically describes Zeppelin in the 90's...

 

[stanbog]

NewWorldMan, why do you think a company offers a deal to artists that "deserve" it from what they have been doing/playing in the past? The only thing that counts is how many amps you will sell in the future.

 

[NewWorldMan]

NewWorldMan, why do you think a company offers a deal to artists that "deserve" it from what they have been doing/playing in the past? The only thing that counts is how many amps you will sell in the future.

I'm not talking about any random company. I'm talking specifically about Mesa, so what you're stating - per Mesa's own verbiage - is inaccurate ("based on how many amps they will sell"). There's a lot more that goes into a business decision than how many amps you could move. By that reasoning, they would have kept their products in Guitar Center.

I cited Mesa's own reasoning above as to why they chose to give Petrucci a signature model, and I stated why Hetfield doesn't fit the bill they described. That's not to say they won't give him one, nor does it speak to anything about well it would or wouldn't sell. I'm just saying they'd have to have a different reasoning for giving Hetfield one based on the reasoning they gave for Petrucci getting one.

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Hetfield get a signature model.

 

[steve_k]

Wouldn't it need to be a Kirk Hammett sig 2C+ as it was his Boogies that James used.

Marshall could then make a JH sig 800 so you could slave the sig 2C into it so it would be like how they used it. And don't forget the JH sig Parametric EQ's you'll need....

That's pretty funny. Hetfield may be better known, but Peteucci a has been the bigger user. My first thought when I heard Petrucci was getting the first (so far only) signature model was..."Why not Hetfield?" But, it does make sense when you put it all into perspective.

Two of the iconic albums - "Kill 'Em All" and "Ride the Lightning" - were exclusively Marshall amps and cabs. By "Master of Puppets" you had the IIC+, but sometimes slaved into Marshall's, and Marshall cabs were used. "Justice?" Mostly Boogie, but Marshall cabs. "The Black Album" was Boogie, but mostly Marshall cabs for crunch and had some Marshall mixed in. After that, it's been a mixed bag. Starting 20 years ago on "Load" and moving forward, you can't even count how many amps were on the albums. There's Boogie in the mix, but tons of other stuff with it. In recent years it's been as much other stuff as Boogie, and then despite playing minimal tour dates with millions in the bank, he opted to switch to Fractal live because he didn't want to foot the freight bill.

Petrucci? With the exception of a little on the first album or so, it's been all Boogie. He's released 9-10 albums alone that were 100% Boogie (and toured exclusively with said gear) just in the time span that Hetfield and crew released their last 2 albums that were a mixed bag of amps and stopped using Boogie live.

Would a Hetfield amp sell? Sure, but he's not been quite the advocate for Mesa that Petrucci has been and I think most of the younger crowd now look at Metallica the way I did Zeppelin growing up.

well, hang on a minute. JP didn't appear on the scene until the late 80's. 1989, i think? MOP and the Mesa heritage with Metallica came along in 1986. Prior to that, Mesa didn't have a high gain offering anyway. So, it had to be Marshall. and, Het still uses Mesa gear live and in the studio.

 

[NewWorldMan]

Yes, which makes it even more sad that Petrucci has used Mesa on more albums in the 2000's alone than Hetfield has in his entire career...