Just picked up the Friedman BE-OD

[1meanplexi]

I wouldn't take the opinion of a guy comparing this to the gain in his Boogie very seriously.

I got to hear this....you made your comment based off of what ?????

 

[maddnotez]

I wouldn't take the opinion of a guy comparing this to the gain in his Boogie very seriously.

I got to hear this....you made your comment based off of what ?????

I can't speak for him but to me it sounds like he is saying there is no way your Mesa will sound like the BE-OD?

 

[1meanplexi]

Did you try reducing the overall gain with the trimpot inside the pedal? You're supposed to turn that down if you use it as an OD.

This pedal is supposed to function as a straight up distortion or an OD depending on where you set that internal trimpot. The first ones shipped have the trimpot set all the way up and are now shipping with the trimpot at 50%, which is still quite a bit of gain.

Yes. I brought the trim pot all the way down. I reconnected it to my rig and I have to say I got some interesting tones. Guys....I am not saying this is a bad pedal. As a matter of fact, it is an excellent pedal. I will only add a pedal to my board if it offers something different than what I already have.

I slept on it and will hit the rehearsal spot with fresh ears and work on dialing it in. Like I stated, I got some interesting tones when I dialed the trim pot all the way down. This is currently how my board would stay if I would keep the BE.

 

[AmpliFIRE]

I wouldn't take the opinion of a guy comparing this to the gain in his Boogie very seriously.

Hi Carl

 

[AmpliFIRE]

I'm interested in trying it with my Fender Vibrolux (which is a very clean tone). I'd like to use the Vibrolux sometimes for grab and go gigs because it's a little 40 watt 2x10.

But I need a full-on rock tone for cover gigs. I was hoping the BE-OD would fit the bill.

Yup...I think it would be great for this.

 

[AmpliFIRE]

Did you try reducing the overall gain with the trimpot inside the pedal? You're supposed to turn that down if you use it as an OD.

This pedal is supposed to function as a straight up distortion or an OD depending on where you set that internal trimpot. The first ones shipped have the trimpot set all the way up and are now shipping with the trimpot at 50%, which is still quite a bit of gain.

Yes. I brought the trim pot all the way down. I reconnected it to my rig and I have to say I got some interesting tones. Guys....I am not saying this is a bad pedal. As a matter of fact, it is an excellent pedal. I will only add a pedal to my board if it offers something different than what I already have. [/url]

Same here...not saying it's bad either, but not what I'm looking for. I'm sure many others will love it.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

I was super hyped about this pedal but my current amps have pretty good gain. I don't really need a completely clean boost. Was hoping this pedal was great for already dirty amps but it seems it works best if you are clean and boosting from there.

I'm sure it's a great pedal but Dave isn't silly enough to put out a $200 pedal that competes with his flagship $3K amp on equal levels. I'm sure the pedal delivers as a good OD but there are a ton of great OD's out there already that are much cheaper than $200 IMO.

What I have been saying and getting flack for... not hate, he just could not and would not pack the abilities of a 3k amp into a pedal. Of course you guys are going to like amp gain + a boost better! I would guess that these would be enjoyed by people who might go through a cab impulse like the two notes pedal that also has power amp simulation. Like the Bogner stuff, maybe through a good effects loop into the power section.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

I wouldn't take the opinion of a guy comparing this to the gain in his Boogie very seriously.

He's comparing amp gain to pedal gain and the general character of "gain" already being achieved by another amp making the pedal gain redundant. Made sense to me..

 

[1meanplexi]

I wouldn't take the opinion of a guy comparing this to the gain in his Boogie very seriously.

He's comparing amp gain to pedal gain and the general character of "gain" already being achieved by another amp making the pedal gain redundant. Made sense to me..

This^^^^ !

 

[Racerxrated]

I was super hyped about this pedal but my current amps have pretty good gain. I don't really need a completely clean boost. Was hoping this pedal was great for already dirty amps but it seems it works best if you are clean and boosting from there.

I'm sure it's a great pedal but Dave isn't silly enough to put out a $200 pedal that competes with his flagship $3K amp on equal levels. I'm sure the pedal delivers as a good OD but there are a ton of great OD's out there already that are much cheaper than $200 IMO.

What I have been saying and getting flack for... not hate, he just could not and would not pack the abilities of a 3k amp into a pedal. Of course you guys are going to like amp gain + a boost better! I would guess that these would be enjoyed by people who might go through a cab impulse like the two notes pedal that also has power amp simulation. Like the Bogner stuff, maybe through a good effects loop into the power section.

First off, it's a 4K amp after taxes. Second, you're getting shit on because how fn dare you question or not dig Friedman stuff? No offense to Dave and Co but Christ, the owners of these amps have become as bad as the EVH police a few years back. Funny shit really. They can't imagine anyone not thinking a Friedman is "the bestest amp evar!"... God help us if we don't agree..and God help them if that silly rumor were true, ya know..about part of the amp being produced in China. But we know they're built here!

 

[bog70]

I wouldn't take the opinion of a guy comparing this to the gain in his Boogie very seriously.

He's comparing amp gain to pedal gain and the general character of "gain" already being achieved by another amp making the pedal gain redundant. Made sense to me..

Thank you for schooling me I'm only playing/ gear buying since 1972. What do I know?

IMO, the "character" of most Boogie gain, and I've owned uncountable Mesa's since 1982, pretty much COVERS the character of the guitar.

I'm not a Pete Thorn fan, but that was a great demo and it wasn't due to a 3K amp. The clean ch on his PT is Fenderish, and that pedal lit that channel up. Didn't sound like any Boogie I ever heard, rather the tones of Friedman's BE amps. Which is fine for me, as 1 sound I use is a distortion or fuzz into a clean amp.
IMO, that's the BE-OD's forte, rather than driving an already distorted amp.

I ordered one from Sweetwater, so I'll report back...into a Ceriatone Plexi 50 and a Hi-Tone JP-50

 

[mniel8195]

Lets fight over a $200 pedal...

 

[sleewell2]

I would love to try one. setting one channel of my amp totally clean would actually be nice.

 

[Bankrupted A Casino]

Curious to see if I can get KillSwitch Engage and Lamb of God type tones out of it.

 

[1meanplexi]

I would love to try one. setting one channel of my amp totally clean would actually be nice.

Exactly....this is where I got the pedal to shine !!!!!! So many possibilities using that way. But....I did spend a couple hours with it as an OD trim pot all the way down and man....it just did not do it for me. On the clean though it was a different story.

Here comes the part where ya all filet me. If you do not properly dial that thing in I swear to my ears it sounded like a Boss Metal Zone. But as stated earlier, properly done it will rip!!!! My board offers me a wide pallet of tones. This really did not add that much to justify keeping it. Going back to GC today.

 

[psychodave]

I wouldn't take the opinion of a guy comparing this to the gain in his Boogie very seriously.

Why is your opinion any more valid than his?

 

[Chester Nimitz]

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[bog70]

I wouldn't take the opinion of a guy comparing this to the gain in his Boogie very seriously.

Why is your opinion any more valid than his?

I wrote "I" wouldn't take the opinion. The rest of you I could give 2 shits

 

[NoodlerKS]

You're all a bunch c*nts!

 

[Badronald]

IMO, the "character" of most Boogie gain, and I've owned uncountable Mesa's since 1982, pretty much COVERS the character of the guitar.

You and I agree on most things. And this is one of them.

However, ANY and all guitar amps color the tone of a guitar with it's own character. BF Fender, Marshall, Vox, Boogie, Bogner, Soldano, etc....all of them.

My MKIV is clean and chimey as hell. Pure conduit from any guitar to your ears. Of course I don't dial it in for the metulz like the typical user.