JackBootedThug
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I emailed Kahler for the hell of it. He got back with me quick when I ordered that string lock.
Dave L
Well-known member
Give us a shot from the side, that could have some more clues.
And jeez, I wonder what Gary is going to say if he gets back to you, I see now that's one of the Japanese counterfeits that Takeuchi made. There's no Kahler logo on it, which is a big tell. Should adjust the same, though, they are pretty true copies.
And jeez, I wonder what Gary is going to say if he gets back to you, I see now that's one of the Japanese counterfeits that Takeuchi made. There's no Kahler logo on it, which is a big tell. Should adjust the same, though, they are pretty true copies.
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Hamer95USA
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I've used to own the Kahler 2520 fulcrum style bridge installed on a Kramer Pacer which originally had a Rockinger tremolo bridge. I hated the 2520! The string would unravel from the ball end, then it would break. I sold it to a friend after doing numerous pickup changes to it and got tired of the bridge breaking strings on me. I've also owned a gold Steeler fulcrum style bridge. That was their best bridge! It was like a very well designed Floyd Rose bridge and you can buy the optional Auto Latch to make the bridge lock in place for more stability. I believe they had a lawsuit from Floyd Rose and was ordered to cease and desist. I should have held on to that bridge. 
I currently own a Kahler Spyder that's installed OEM on a 1987 Fender Japan Contemporary Strat. It works great for what it needs to do and stays in tune.
Guitar George
I currently own a Kahler Spyder that's installed OEM on a 1987 Fender Japan Contemporary Strat. It works great for what it needs to do and stays in tune.Guitar George
JackBootedThug
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aww shit...that sucks....supposed to be a 2220c according to Greco prints from the 80's.....
JackBootedThug
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shit...Kahler got right back to me. They asked for a picture and I sent it. This is what they said about the locking screw-
"If your Kahler is from the 80’s then it won’t have the locking screw because that’s a feature that wasn’t available back then. We started offering the lock down feature in 2004. "
That's twice that they have gotten to me pretty damn quick with a response.
"If your Kahler is from the 80’s then it won’t have the locking screw because that’s a feature that wasn’t available back then. We started offering the lock down feature in 2004. "
That's twice that they have gotten to me pretty damn quick with a response.
Dave L
Well-known member
Yeah, my RR95K has the proper Kahler 2220. Greco used a ton of them, but apparently maybe not always 
JackBootedThug
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I dropped them what you said when I sent them the picture Dave. Curious to see what they say.
Dave L
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Yeah, I hope I'm wrong but I've always heard that a Kahler without the logo isn't a Kahler. Weird to see one on a Greco if that's the case, they must have been one of their biggest customers back in that era.
Devin
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That's weird because my first "good" guitar was a Peavey USA Impact 1 from like 1991 or 1992 and the Kahler on it had the screw to make it function as a hardtail.
And I always kept it in that mode
JackBootedThug
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I had a usa custom shop pv falcon from that era that had the locking screw also. Wished I would have kept that one. It outstratted fender....That's weird because my first "good" guitar was a Peavey USA Impact 1 from like 1991 or 1992 and the Kahler on it had the screw to make it function as a hardtail.
And I always kept it in that mode
JackBootedThug
MURDERATOR
just heard from them-
"Yup that's a counterfeit bridge. All Kahler bridges have the logo on them so that's a huge bummer.
If you'd like to replace it with a real 2200 Kahler with the lock down feature let us know."
well fuck.
"Yup that's a counterfeit bridge. All Kahler bridges have the logo on them so that's a huge bummer.
If you'd like to replace it with a real 2200 Kahler with the lock down feature let us know."
well fuck.
Devin
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Yeah dude those USA Peaveys were all sick! I sold mine to a friend years ago who still has it; I'm sure I could buy it back because he certainly never plays it. I should probably do that...
Dave L
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Yeah, that is a bummer. You have to wonder, is this maybe another JS Greco that was modded with a "Kahler" rather than a JS98K? Like I said Greco used the actual, real Kahlers all over the place, so I'm surprised to see this on there.
JackBootedThug
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Just emailed my homie who might happen to have 2 or 3 laying around....lol...
JackBootedThug
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dude I tell you what...this thing is a player....it rips Dave. Even with that fucked up bridge...
Dave L
Well-known member
Yeah, man, don't doubt it at all. All the Grecos from that era are built to the same high standard, only difference between models is the hardware. With a real Kahler on there it basically is a JS98K no matter what it might have been originally. I can't remember, did you have the original pickups?
JackBootedThug
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yup....scottosan said they were screamers I believe. As far as this bridge being a counterfeit....I have to tell you-it's pretty fuckin nice. Solid and heavy duty. Not cheap and flimsy feeling at all.
Dave L
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If they were Screamers and not the Dry 82s it probably wasn't a JS98K to begin with, probably the JS55 instead, so it makes a lot of sense this bridge got on there later. Takeuchi does good stuff, so I'm not surprised you like it. They did the Jackson JT580LP and other similar quality licensed Floyds in the 90s.
JackBootedThug
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serial number is A840305....
January 1984 #305...
January 1984 #305...
Dave L
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Yeah, lines up nice that it's from January 1984, just like it should. That's all you can get from the serial, really.