Kemper folks (( detune pedal ))

[MrDowntown]

I've got a couple profiles i really like and I'd like a really nice pitch/detune mod I can drop in to my profile(s).

I'm looking for that drop dead legs feel. Anybody know of a good one, or maybe some decent settings on one of the stocks

Thanks for any feedback

 

[Monkey Man]

Hey MDT!

Do you have an expression pedal hooked up to your Stage unit? If so, just have a fiddle with the pitch effect/s whilst experimenting with the range you get on the pedal. You'll be able to set the transpose amount in the effect. The pedal should automatically take you to the maximum when fully-depressed.

I don't know the effects well enough to recommend one specifically, but any of pitch ones that allow you to specify a range should work.

 

[Dave L]

That detune/micropitch effect is dead simple, it's just slightly down on one side and almost but not quite the same amount up on the other side. Stick about 15-25 ms delay on one of them and there you go. Try anything from -4/+5 up to about -11/+13 for different tastes. The critical point in the whole recipe is the mix, there's just a fine line between where it's too subtle and where it absolutely destroys your sound.

 

[Monkey Man]

Thanks Dave; good on ya mate.

Sounds like I was barking up the wrong tree, thinking he wanted a pedal-whammy effect.

 

[MrDowntown]

Hey guys thanks for the direction. I’ll give it shot this evening.

 

[Monkey Man]

Please report back, brother.

 

[MrDowntown]

putz'd around for a small bit last night... i think i landed on the "chromatic" pitch shift??? and rolled it to about -2.5/-3.0 detune

i'll keep fiddling with it..

thanks dudes!

 

[Monkey Man]

The chromatic one's intended for more-macro shifts, you'd think, but if you can do the 2.5->3 cent thing as you have, it should suffice.

If you can modulate that a little, creating a touch of variation, you'll be in the ballpark of a decent effect IMHO. Don't know if the chromatic shift provides parameters for this, but I'd assume that any micro-shift algorithm would.

 

[Dave L]

I´m not sure what the Kemper does and doesn´t, but anything that can pitch two voices in cent increments is fine. One side up, one side down, a bit of delay on one of them. This is a stereo widening effect at the heart of it, so it doesn´t do much in mono.

As for modulation, it is actually fairly rare to see a pitch algorithm with built-in modulation/sweep, and even in more sophisticated units that can do it you often need to patch a system modulator to the parameter. Modulating the pitch depth is a pretty cool alternative to regular time-modulated chorus, though. The original Eventide H910 Eddie used in the 80s was a bit warbly and struggled to keep things steady, but from the H3000 on that isn´t part of the typical sound anymore.