Layne Staley's mom suing AIC

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Heritage Softail":3abf38dx said:
steve_k":3abf38dx said:
Heritage Softail":3abf38dx said:
Mudder":3abf38dx said:
There would need to be specific language written into the contracts about earnings in perpetuity, or after death, which is super rare, for McCallum to have any claim to any monies not earned directly by Layne.

Exactly. If that was not the case, every knocked up groupie would be hitting all the bands up for child support.

The guy dies, the associated personal gravy train chugs to a halt very soon.

I think they were great to pay her for 10 years.

Wonder what's her drug of choice? Layne and Jerry were tight - as were the rest of the band. Surely she doesn't think JC would have done anything in bad judgement toward Layne or his family. People die, the others move on.

Anyway...not long until Dinosaurs is released. Looking forward to it.

The ability to lay down a simple beat, then lead and lag it with a killer riff... It is a fucking gift of genius. Cantrell has it. And the riff is usually easy. Which makes it so remarkable. It is funny to hear slight praise of Cantrell as a player. Like he can't really play much lead.... Or some BS like that. He just plays exactly what fits and is a gear genius, getting great live tone.

I would much rather hear a few great AIC songs with monster guitar sound than some thin shred by your favorite fretboard gymnast.

Amen!
 
Heritage Softail":a094jjt7 said:
steve_k":a094jjt7 said:
Heritage Softail":a094jjt7 said:
Mudder":a094jjt7 said:
There would need to be specific language written into the contracts about earnings in perpetuity, or after death, which is super rare, for McCallum to have any claim to any monies not earned directly by Layne.

Exactly. If that was not the case, every knocked up groupie would be hitting all the bands up for child support.

The guy dies, the associated personal gravy train chugs to a halt very soon.

I think they were great to pay her for 10 years.

Wonder what's her drug of choice? Layne and Jerry were tight - as were the rest of the band. Surely she doesn't think JC would have done anything in bad judgement toward Layne or his family. People die, the others move on.

Anyway...not long until Dinosaurs is released. Looking forward to it.

The ability to lay down a simple beat, then lead and lag it with a killer riff... It is a fucking gift of genius. Cantrell has it. And the riff is usually easy. Which makes it so remarkable. It is funny to hear slight praise of Cantrell as a player. Like he can't really play much lead.... Or some BS like that. He just plays exactly what fits and is a gear genius, getting great live tone.

I would much rather hear a few great AIC songs with monster guitar sound than some thin shred by your favorite fretboard gymnast.
Werd.
 
Heritage Softail":3rh7198w said:
steve_k":3rh7198w said:
Heritage Softail":3rh7198w said:
Mudder":3rh7198w said:
There would need to be specific language written into the contracts about earnings in perpetuity, or after death, which is super rare, for McCallum to have any claim to any monies not earned directly by Layne.

Exactly. If that was not the case, every knocked up groupie would be hitting all the bands up for child support.

The guy dies, the associated personal gravy train chugs to a halt very soon.

I think they were great to pay her for 10 years.

Wonder what's her drug of choice? Layne and Jerry were tight - as were the rest of the band. Surely she doesn't think JC would have done anything in bad judgement toward Layne or his family. People die, the others move on.

Anyway...not long until Dinosaurs is released. Looking forward to it.

The ability to lay down a simple beat, then lead and lag it with a killer riff... It is a fucking gift of genius. Cantrell has it. And the riff is usually easy. Which makes it so remarkable. It is funny to hear slight praise of Cantrell as a player. Like he can't really play much lead.... Or some BS like that. He just plays exactly what fits and is a gear genius, getting great live tone.

I would much rather hear a few great AIC songs with monster guitar sound than some thin shred by your favorite fretboard gymnast.
Fo' Shizzle
 
Heritage Softail":2gnwqzc6 said:
steve_k":2gnwqzc6 said:
Heritage Softail":2gnwqzc6 said:
Mudder":2gnwqzc6 said:
There would need to be specific language written into the contracts about earnings in perpetuity, or after death, which is super rare, for McCallum to have any claim to any monies not earned directly by Layne.

Exactly. If that was not the case, every knocked up groupie would be hitting all the bands up for child support.

The guy dies, the associated personal gravy train chugs to a halt very soon.

I think they were great to pay her for 10 years.

Wonder what's her drug of choice? Layne and Jerry were tight - as were the rest of the band. Surely she doesn't think JC would have done anything in bad judgement toward Layne or his family. People die, the others move on.

Anyway...not long until Dinosaurs is released. Looking forward to it.

The ability to lay down a simple beat, then lead and lag it with a killer riff... It is a fucking gift of genius. Cantrell has it. And the riff is usually easy. Which makes it so remarkable. It is funny to hear slight praise of Cantrell as a player. Like he can't really play much lead.... Or some BS like that. He just plays exactly what fits and is a gear genius, getting great live tone.

I would much rather hear a few great AIC songs with monster guitar sound than some thin shred by your favorite fretboard gymnast.

Absofuckinglutely. One way to get me reaching for the remote is a bunch of wanking. I will take Jerry's melodic grind on top of a kick ass riff any day.
 
So lets put the shoe on the other foot....
if the band wouldnt of risen after the death....and lost money....
would The Mom be held liable for that as well?
Or is it only for the goodness of the band?
Whore. :lol: :LOL:
:checkthisout:
 
I agree on the surface this looks like a greedy pos trying to take advantage, but as said, we don't know all the details. She is entitled to royalties on songs he wrote or cowrote and she is getting that already though, so I find it hard to believe they're intentionally screwing her. Her trying to register copyright for their name definitely leads me to believe that she's simply trying to cash in. Come on, you had *nothing* to do with the band but are trying to register copyright of their name for what reason, exactly?
 
Trademarks are all about marketing and popular recognition. They aren't the same as copyrights, but they are more litigated because of the value to selling AIC gear. She will have a difficult time getting a TM anyway, since they can argue first-use and recognition factors.

With that in mind it's like she's trying to get what monies she can find, rather than what's entitled.
 
Change the name of the band and screw that greedy bitch.
 
Allysin Chaynes?

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glip22":3vaafv6j said:
charveldan":3vaafv6j said:
So its the bands fault that Layne liked to stick needles in his arm ?

Layne has nobody but himself to blame for his demise.

AIC is way past the Staley factor IMO.

Odd how the Godfathers of grunge Cobain & Staley couldn't survive their own success.
Dan, If Lane didn't stick needles in his arm he never could have sang like that which is what made the band famous in the first place. He never would have written the dark songs.
I gotta chime in here as everyone always assumes LS wrote a big portion of the catalog (at least the lyrics). Check the actual song credits...JC is credited as sole writer on a vast majority, including almost all of the "dark" songs that kind of established the AIC sound.
 
brock":3hlzmwbd said:
glip22":3hlzmwbd said:
charveldan":3hlzmwbd said:
So its the bands fault that Layne liked to stick needles in his arm ?

Layne has nobody but himself to blame for his demise.

AIC is way past the Staley factor IMO.

Odd how the Godfathers of grunge Cobain & Staley couldn't survive their own success.
Dan, If Lane didn't stick needles in his arm he never could have sang like that which is what made the band famous in the first place. He never would have written the dark songs.
I gotta chime in here as everyone always assumes LS wrote a big portion of the catalog (at least the lyrics). Check the actual song credits...JC is credited as sole writer on a vast majority, including almost all of the "dark" songs that kind of established the AIC sound.

Interesting injection of facts.
 
Heritage Softail":10qlwdgv said:
brock":10qlwdgv said:
glip22":10qlwdgv said:
charveldan":10qlwdgv said:
So its the bands fault that Layne liked to stick needles in his arm ?

Layne has nobody but himself to blame for his demise.

AIC is way past the Staley factor IMO.

Odd how the Godfathers of grunge Cobain & Staley couldn't survive their own success.
Dan, If Lane didn't stick needles in his arm he never could have sang like that which is what made the band famous in the first place. He never would have written the dark songs.
I gotta chime in here as everyone always assumes LS wrote a big portion of the catalog (at least the lyrics). Check the actual song credits...JC is credited as sole writer on a vast majority, including almost all of the "dark" songs that kind of established the AIC sound.

Interesting injection of facts.
I see what you did there.
 
glip22":2jt7aqsy said:
This really depends on how the contracts were written initially when Lane was alive. She may have a case. Who are we to Judge her without knowing the legalities. If it becomes public that she does not have any case then shame on her being an ungrateful pig.
+1
 
brock":3j9oln14 said:
glip22":3j9oln14 said:
charveldan":3j9oln14 said:
So its the bands fault that Layne liked to stick needles in his arm ?

Layne has nobody but himself to blame for his demise.

AIC is way past the Staley factor IMO.

Odd how the Godfathers of grunge Cobain & Staley couldn't survive their own success.
Dan, If Lane didn't stick needles in his arm he never could have sang like that which is what made the band famous in the first place. He never would have written the dark songs.
I gotta chime in here as everyone always assumes LS wrote a big portion of the catalog (at least the lyrics). Check the actual song credits...JC is credited as sole writer on a vast majority, including almost all of the "dark" songs that kind of established the AIC sound.

Man in the Box, concept for the video, song except for the riff was written by Staley.

Dirt was a concept album which was Staley's including the artwork etc. The songs he wrote held that album together as a downward spiral into addiction. Cantrell's songs in between really tied the album together and made it commercially a mainstream success. Staley even wrote Angry Chair including the actual guitar and drums.

Now look at Cantrell's solo albums.

You have to give credit where its due.
 
I have mixed feelings about this situation because Layne did not really want to much to do with his Mom when he was alive and she kicked him out of the house when he was a teenager. I think if he had the foresight to give the royalties in his will to someone it probably would have been his sister.
 
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