lookin 4 new cabs,Stone age,mills, madison?

[moltenmetalburn]

Port city 4x12, 2x12 OS .

after moving to ported cabs Ill never go back, there is a lot of dynamic missing with a closed back cabinet that prevents speakers from reaching their xmax.

some also like earcandy but I hear horror stories about wait times..

there are more, tonetools fat cat, Austin tonelabs, etc...

 

[fuzzyguitars]

I would really like to have explained to me what the differences are to the new current diezel cabs verses their previous german cabs.

I owned a the older german version and thought it sounded like poo.

Now there is the new and improved version. How so? What makes this one that much better than the previous version. And dont just say redesign, how about some specifics, or is this a secret.


FWIW, i now own a mills and they explained to me exactly what makes their cabs different. And their cabs are really designed differently from the standard type cabs. For me they are truly great. and get my vote for you to check out still.

I am not convinced with the new diezel cabs, and have not had time to bring my herbert down to tone merchants to try the new one out yet.


but at those prices, it had better get me to bust a nut with the first a chord!

 

[crabby]

On any of these cabs, and all of them, they all should offer the road ready covering, the laminate w/ alum edges, like almighty and madison offer, other wise you have to then order a roadcase for an add 4-500 bucks on top of the cab, sorry I fuckin hate tolex unless it sits in your bedroom, 2 weeks on heavy gigging my two bassons look like a pitbull got to em.

another question, maybe someone can clarify, mdf vs baltic birch? whats the pros n cons ive read great things on both and neg on both?

Crabby, look into the padded Tuki covers. I put well over 130 shows on my 4x12 in a 13 month period and the Tuki came through big time. My cab has virtually no wear. Granted me and my band mates do most of the loading unloading, so it's not like we're tossing crap in the hauler needlessly...in fact everything is mapped out for packing. Still great low cost, light, protective alternative. Really the only thing you have to watch is the casters.

I've got a case but thank goodness I bought the Tuki...I don't miss lugging that case thing around. However if your relying on other clowns for cartage...yeah gotta have one. Anyway check out the Tuki, good stuff.

ill have to check these out.....still debating on stone age or mills????

 

[crabby]

any clips of stone age cabs?

 

[MILLS Acoustics]

In reference to your comments about Diezel cabinets I will clarify what you made mention of again in proper context. The comment Peter Stapfer made was in comparing the old german Diezel cab to the new german Diezel cab. At one time (the time of the video you mention) there was the US Diezel cabs and the german Diezel cabs....which at that time were very different. There is no longer a US made Diezel cabinet and the cabinets are now all made in Germany. All the cabinets have been redesigned (even more changes since the video you mention) and sound fantastic. Everything about our cabs are now different and the feedback we receive from those who own them is stellar. They are made to accompany our products and they do so incredibly well. Hopefully this clarifies any potential confusion and puts thing in proper perspective.

I tried asking privately but there was no reply so I'll ask you here....What is your return policy? If someone spends $1800 to have your cab delivered and then decides it's not for them, what is their recourse? Are they out $1800 or is there a period of time in which it can be returned for full refund? I did not see this on your website anywhere. Our "30 day return for any reason" policy is clearly listed on ours and we even refund shipping charges as well. Since you charge so much and claim to be the best, "nothing can touch it" you said in another post, surely there is a return policy of equal greatness?

Oh, and BTW....it CAN be touched, trust me.... and for a helluva lot less $$$. Ask MUSE. They just bought 4 of our Afterburners to run the Diezel VH4 through. I'm sure they would have preferred matching nameplates but apparently tone performance was their priority. It is that way with ALL of our Clients.

Dave Mills

 

[thegame]

^^^^^^

Diezel USA owned again

 

[Anonymous]

@MillsAcoustics

Is Matt from Muse using V30's in his cabs?

 

[MILLS Acoustics]

@MillsAcoustics

Is Matt from Muse using V30's in his cabs?

Yes he is...all V30s. He had one loaned from Manson's for several months of demo purposes. They pushed it every way imaginable as we recommended. The results speak for themselves, we're happy to report. Thanks.

Dave

 

[fuzzyguitars]

@MillsAcoustics

Is Matt from Muse using V30's in his cabs?

Yes he is...all V30s. He had one loaned from Manson's for several months of demo purposes. They pushed it every way imaginable as we recommended. The results speak for themselves, we're happy to report. Thanks.

Dave

i usually hate v30s

but in my mills, the speaker sounds really , really good.


but i cant leave well enough alone and have a x pattern with v30 and k100 in my cab!

 

[OldSkoolNJ]

I tried asking privately but there was no reply so I'll ask you here....What is your return policy? If someone spends $1800 to have your cab delivered and then decides it's not for them, what is their recourse? Are they out $1800 or is there a period of time in which it can be returned for full refund? I did not see this on your website anywhere. Our "30 day return for any reason" policy is clearly listed on ours and we even refund shipping charges as well. Since you charge so much and claim to be the best, "nothing can touch it" you said in another post, surely there is a return policy of equal greatness?

Oh, and BTW....it CAN be touched, trust me.... and for a helluva lot less $$$. Ask MUSE. They just bought 4 of our Afterburners to run the Diezel VH4 through. I'm sure they would have preferred matching nameplates but apparently tone performance was their priority. It is that way with ALL of our Clients.

Dave Mills

Is everything made there in your Alabama shop??

 

[MILLS Acoustics]

^^^^^^

Diezel USA owned again

Yep...it's too easy. Just because you understand the manipulation of electrons and build a good amp, in no way has an effect on the science of sound reproduction regarding speakers and how they behave within an enclosed space. THAT is far more a mechanical engineering discipline than an electronic one. They build a good conventional cab and it's possible that in certain applications it may be the best for that particular purpose. But, does it sound $600 BETTER than ours? I seriously doubt it. We even sold a cab last month to one of their Dealers for his own personal use. According to him, there was virtually no difference in the "new" Diezel cab at $1650 versus the old cab at $1050. He wanted one of ours and he got it. I'm not trying to pick on Diezel....I love some of their amps and have referred many buyers to them when asked. We will continue to do so. We have made the non-stop claim of building the best sounding cab since our beginning. We are prepared to back it up anytime and anywhere. I hope they are prepared to do the same. And their return policy should reflect this confidence as well. But thanks for the comment....you nailed it.

 

[nbarts]

@MillsAcoustics

Is Matt from Muse using V30's in his cabs?

Yes he is...all V30s. He had one loaned from Manson's for several months of demo purposes. They pushed it every way imaginable as we recommended. The results speak for themselves, we're happy to report. Thanks.

Dave

Do you make front loaded 2x12s?

 

[MILLS Acoustics]

I tried asking privately but there was no reply so I'll ask you here....What is your return policy? If someone spends $1800 to have your cab delivered and then decides it's not for them, what is their recourse? Are they out $1800 or is there a period of time in which it can be returned for full refund? I did not see this on your website anywhere. Our "30 day return for any reason" policy is clearly listed on ours and we even refund shipping charges as well. Since you charge so much and claim to be the best, "nothing can touch it" you said in another post, surely there is a return policy of equal greatness?

Oh, and BTW....it CAN be touched, trust me.... and for a helluva lot less $$$. Ask MUSE. They just bought 4 of our Afterburners to run the Diezel VH4 through. I'm sure they would have preferred matching nameplates but apparently tone performance was their priority. It is that way with ALL of our Clients.

Dave Mills

Is everything made there in your Alabama shop??

Yes they are hand-built one by one here in Bama.

 

[RedB4Black]

A big plus one to Erocks statement above. Can't go wrong with a Herbert, VH4 and Mills cabs.

I've played a stone age cab before. It was loaded with all gk-100s. It's what made me try gk-100s in my Bogner cabs at the time. I now have v30s/gk-100s in both my Mills cabs. It was a nice cab, but I don't remember anything special about it. I certainly didn't like it better than my Bogner cabs (which were subsequently replaced by Mills).

I really wanted to get a new Diezel cab - just for the sake of matching the head/cab OCD, but for the cost of one Diezel cab, you could buy 2 Mills cabs.

If a front loaded cab interests you, look into the new Bogner front-loaded. A guy on HC who also had a Diezel cab says he liked it alot more.

Better yet, PM DEWD here on rig-talk - he owns a Mills, owned a new German Made Diezel FL 412 and owns a new Bogner FL ubercab.

 

[MILLS Acoustics]

@MillsAcoustics

Is Matt from Muse using V30's in his cabs?

Yes he is...all V30s. He had one loaned from Manson's for several months of demo purposes. They pushed it every way imaginable as we recommended. The results speak for themselves, we're happy to report. Thanks.

Dave

Do you make front loaded 2x12s?

None of our cabs are front loaded. We have tested MANY variations of FL designs and just have found no performance advantage. Our entire design principles are in large part based on symmetry. Moving the voice coil further away from center does more harm than good, at least in our experience and with our designs. And for a Pro-Tour cab that gets slammed in and out of the van, a removable front grill makes very little sense to us. We build for the apocalypse

 

[Digital Jams]

If a front loaded cab interests you, look into the new Bogner front-loaded. A guy on HC who also had a Diezel cab says he liked it alot more.

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Who should post the person's name, for me he plays nothing that I do for one and I have seen his settings and they are different than settings I have seen on the same amps.

Not a negative, just stating you should post the source so people can determine if he would be a good source to go by.

I do like Erock's judgement as I like the tones that he gets.

 

[MILLS Acoustics]

A big plus one to Erocks statement above. Can't go wrong with a Herbert, VH4 and Mills cabs.

I've played a stone age cab before. It was loaded with all gk-100s. It's what made me try gk-100s in my Bogner cabs at the time. I now have v30s/gk-100s in both my Mills cabs. It was a nice cab, but I don't remember anything special about it. I certainly didn't like it better than my Bogner cabs (which were subsequently replaced by Mills).

I really wanted to get a new Diezel cab - just for the sake of matching the head/cab OCD, but for the cost of one Diezel cab, you could buy 2 Mills cabs.

If a front loaded cab interests you, look into the new Bogner front-loaded. A guy on HC who also had a Diezel cab says he liked it alot more.

Better yet, PM DEWD here on rig-talk - he owns a Mills, owned a new German Made Diezel FL 412 and owns a new Bogner FL ubercab.

Hey Matt! Good to hear from you, Bro. Hope all is well!

Dave

 

[RedB4Black]

If a front loaded cab interests you, look into the new Bogner front-loaded. A guy on HC who also had a Diezel cab says he liked it alot more.

.

Who should post the person's name, for me he plays nothing that I do for one and I have seen his settings and they are different than settings I have seen on the same amps.

Not a negative, just stating you should post the source so people can determine if he would be a good source to go by.

I do like Erock's judgement as I like the tones that he gets.

Tornadoofsouls on HC

 

[RedB4Black]

A big plus one to Erocks statement above. Can't go wrong with a Herbert, VH4 and Mills cabs.

I've played a stone age cab before. It was loaded with all gk-100s. It's what made me try gk-100s in my Bogner cabs at the time. I now have v30s/gk-100s in both my Mills cabs. It was a nice cab, but I don't remember anything special about it. I certainly didn't like it better than my Bogner cabs (which were subsequently replaced by Mills).

I really wanted to get a new Diezel cab - just for the sake of matching the head/cab OCD, but for the cost of one Diezel cab, you could buy 2 Mills cabs.

If a front loaded cab interests you, look into the new Bogner front-loaded. A guy on HC who also had a Diezel cab says he liked it alot more.

Better yet, PM DEWD here on rig-talk - he owns a Mills, owned a new German Made Diezel FL 412 and owns a new Bogner FL ubercab.

Hey Matt! Good to hear from you, Bro. Hope all is well!

Dave

Doing great Dave. Hope things are great for you as well.

 

[Digital Jams]

If a front loaded cab interests you, look into the new Bogner front-loaded. A guy on HC who also had a Diezel cab says he liked it alot more.

.

Who should post the person's name, for me he plays nothing that I do for one and I have seen his settings and they are different than settings I have seen on the same amps.

Not a negative, just stating you should post the source so people can determine if he would be a good source to go by.

I do like Erock's judgement as I like the tones that he gets.

Tornadoofsouls on HC

Hopefully he can show up at the Fortin ampfest, he would be crazy not to with all the iron that is going to be there.