MAB makes YJM look like a fool..

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Jimmie":37tll059 said:
It all started with Charlie Parker and others like him. Undoubetedly one of the greated musicians of all time. a lot of that creativity comes with slamming so much junk, but the legacy stands and his riffs provide so much talent for us all to copy and lay claim as our own greatness.
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Yeah...if you gonna go with it all started with I think you might go back a few centuries, not decades...
 
mentoneman":1dl4t39l said:
yngwie came onto the scene at a perfect time. sorta made king eddie's monopoly obsolete regarding the new shreddy kid on the block mentality. y changed the game in 83 like eddie did in 78. just when you were starting to wrap your head around ed's solos, yngwie redefined what it meant to burn with technical precision.

put the exclamation point on classically influenced metal. such dramatic leads he forced you to take notice. blackmore was throwing temper tantrums in rainbow and generally blowing chunks playing lone ranger motivated solos, when yngwie hit him right in the moneymaker, stealing his persona and running circles around him with bach melodies at paganini pace.

uli was in another league than blackmore, and yngwie did uli note for note more in tribute of an idol, than beating ritchie at his own arrogant gunslinger game.

i think shawn lane and jason becker took it even further still technically, as well as guthrie, and paul, but none of them have the historical significance in guitardom like ed and yngwie have.

and between those two, ed is rock hall of fame material...not so much yngwie due to his less mass appeal musical genre.
What's funny though is that it took Shawn Lane covering West Side Boogie for any one to pay attention to Ray Gomez, which IMO was THE perfect early burn with precision.
 
Marshall Law":2r1l6kgo said:
I always liked this video :D


This one is better, him speaking about Graham is awesome :lol: :LOL:



Yngwie just rules, full on naval coat an pirate shirt!
 
Shiny_Surface":23m9zo21 said:
lol at those who don't know King Crimson's long history. :lol: :LOL:
fill me in. Links? :checkthisout: There's that hungry popcorn guy again. He wants a good story!
 
putnut77":3i9z9khf said:
MAB needs to cut his hair...seriously

Get your shine box - rookie. Get some guitar lessons and shut your pie hole.
 
mentoneman":3lt21hy0 said:
yngwie came onto the scene at a perfect time. sorta made king eddie's monopoly obsolete regarding the new shreddy kid on the block mentality. y changed the game in 83 like eddie did in 78. just when you were starting to wrap your head around ed's solos, yngwie redefined what it meant to burn with technical precision.

put the exclamation point on classically influenced metal. such dramatic leads he forced you to take notice. blackmore was throwing temper tantrums in rainbow and generally blowing chunks playing lone ranger motivated solos, when yngwie hit him right in the moneymaker, stealing his persona and running circles around him with bach melodies at paganini pace.

uli was in another league than blackmore, and yngwie did uli note for note more in tribute of an idol, than beating ritchie at his own arrogant gunslinger game.

i think shawn lane and jason becker took it even further still technically, as well as guthrie, and paul, but none of them have the historical significance in guitardom like ed and yngwie have.

and between those two, ed is rock hall of fame material...not so much yngwie due to his less mass appeal musical genre.

YJM made a name with very little creativity and originality and based the "WOW" factor on technical ability. It's like being able to type 5000 words a minute with amazing accuracy and saying what's already been written with very little originality or personal spin.

When you hear Ed, Hendrix, Atkins, etc even though they took from previous greats...... you know right off the bat who it is. YJM not so much.
 
ejecta":21te08zg said:
mentoneman":21te08zg said:
yngwie came onto the scene at a perfect time. sorta made king eddie's monopoly obsolete regarding the new shreddy kid on the block mentality. y changed the game in 83 like eddie did in 78. just when you were starting to wrap your head around ed's solos, yngwie redefined what it meant to burn with technical precision.

put the exclamation point on classically influenced metal. such dramatic leads he forced you to take notice. blackmore was throwing temper tantrums in rainbow and generally blowing chunks playing lone ranger motivated solos, when yngwie hit him right in the moneymaker, stealing his persona and running circles around him with bach melodies at paganini pace.

uli was in another league than blackmore, and yngwie did uli note for note more in tribute of an idol, than beating ritchie at his own arrogant gunslinger game.

i think shawn lane and jason becker took it even further still technically, as well as guthrie, and paul, but none of them have the historical significance in guitardom like ed and yngwie have.

and between those two, ed is rock hall of fame material...not so much yngwie due to his less mass appeal musical genre.

YJM made a name with very little creativity and originality and based the "WOW" factor on technical ability. It's like being able to type 5000 words a minute with amazing accuracy and saying what's already been written with very little originality or personal spin.

When you hear Ed, Hendrix, Atkins, etc even though they took from previous greats...... you know right off the bat who it is. YJM not so much.

:jerkit:
 
ejecta":3ewh4eke said:
mentoneman":3ewh4eke said:
yngwie came onto the scene at a perfect time. sorta made king eddie's monopoly obsolete regarding the new shreddy kid on the block mentality. y changed the game in 83 like eddie did in 78. just when you were starting to wrap your head around ed's solos, yngwie redefined what it meant to burn with technical precision.

put the exclamation point on classically influenced metal. such dramatic leads he forced you to take notice. blackmore was throwing temper tantrums in rainbow and generally blowing chunks playing lone ranger motivated solos, when yngwie hit him right in the moneymaker, stealing his persona and running circles around him with bach melodies at paganini pace.

uli was in another league than blackmore, and yngwie did uli note for note more in tribute of an idol, than beating ritchie at his own arrogant gunslinger game.

i think shawn lane and jason becker took it even further still technically, as well as guthrie, and paul, but none of them have the historical significance in guitardom like ed and yngwie have.

and between those two, ed is rock hall of fame material...not so much yngwie due to his less mass appeal musical genre.

YJM made a name with very little creativity and originality and based the "WOW" factor on technical ability. It's like being able to type 5000 words a minute with amazing accuracy and saying what's already been written with very little originality or personal spin.

When you hear Ed, Hendrix, Atkins, etc even though they took from previous greats...... you know right off the bat who it is. YJM not so much.
LOL!! :lol: :LOL: Yeah...I couldn't pick YJM out of all the rest of the guys playing the same shit in the mid '80's!! :hys:
 
ejecta":cnt67wki said:
mentoneman":cnt67wki said:
yngwie came onto the scene at a perfect time. sorta made king eddie's monopoly obsolete regarding the new shreddy kid on the block mentality. y changed the game in 83 like eddie did in 78. just when you were starting to wrap your head around ed's solos, yngwie redefined what it meant to burn with technical precision.

put the exclamation point on classically influenced metal. such dramatic leads he forced you to take notice. blackmore was throwing temper tantrums in rainbow and generally blowing chunks playing lone ranger motivated solos, when yngwie hit him right in the moneymaker, stealing his persona and running circles around him with bach melodies at paganini pace.

uli was in another league than blackmore, and yngwie did uli note for note more in tribute of an idol, than beating ritchie at his own arrogant gunslinger game.

i think shawn lane and jason becker took it even further still technically, as well as guthrie, and paul, but none of them have the historical significance in guitardom like ed and yngwie have.

and between those two, ed is rock hall of fame material...not so much yngwie due to his less mass appeal musical genre.

YJM made a name with very little creativity and originality and based the "WOW" factor on technical ability. It's like being able to type 5000 words a minute with amazing accuracy and saying what's already been written with very little originality or personal spin.

When you hear Ed, Hendrix, Atkins, etc even though they took from previous greats...... you know right off the bat who it is. YJM not so much.
:confused: :confused: :confused:
 
Gainzilla":1viqlybm said:
ejecta":1viqlybm said:
mentoneman":1viqlybm said:
yngwie came onto the scene at a perfect time. sorta made king eddie's monopoly obsolete regarding the new shreddy kid on the block mentality. y changed the game in 83 like eddie did in 78. just when you were starting to wrap your head around ed's solos, yngwie redefined what it meant to burn with technical precision.

put the exclamation point on classically influenced metal. such dramatic leads he forced you to take notice. blackmore was throwing temper tantrums in rainbow and generally blowing chunks playing lone ranger motivated solos, when yngwie hit him right in the moneymaker, stealing his persona and running circles around him with bach melodies at paganini pace.

uli was in another league than blackmore, and yngwie did uli note for note more in tribute of an idol, than beating ritchie at his own arrogant gunslinger game.

i think shawn lane and jason becker took it even further still technically, as well as guthrie, and paul, but none of them have the historical significance in guitardom like ed and yngwie have.

and between those two, ed is rock hall of fame material...not so much yngwie due to his less mass appeal musical genre.

YJM made a name with very little creativity and originality and based the "WOW" factor on technical ability. It's like being able to type 5000 words a minute with amazing accuracy and saying what's already been written with very little originality or personal spin.

When you hear Ed, Hendrix, Atkins, etc even though they took from previous greats...... you know right off the bat who it is. YJM not so much.
:confused: :confused: :confused:

Just my tastes and opinion Kage. YJM has never done a thing for me as an a musician other than I respect his study of classical music and technological ability. As for a unique original voice on the instrument... for me there is very little there when compared to many other guitar players. YMMV. :thumbsup:
 
Random Hero":154wbp6h said:
Neither of them can write a song to save their life, ergo, there is no discussion to be had on this subject.
Are you denying the lyrical power behind the line in Yngwie's 'As Above, So Below:'
"There's a hole in the sky
Don't ask me why
'Cuz I doooooon't know..."


:D

That is one of my all-time favorite 'guitar playing bar-raising' albums, though.
 
jet66":3nsduv8t said:
Random Hero":3nsduv8t said:
Neither of them can write a song to save their life, ergo, there is no discussion to be had on this subject.
Are you denying the lyrical power behind the line in Yngwie's 'As Above, So Below:'
"There's a hole in the sky
Don't ask me why
'Cuz I doooooon't know..."


:D

That is one of my all-time favorite 'guitar playing bar-raising' albums, though.

Just grab your shinebox. And get it on...

You are now match for me!!!
 
back to the top, just because the title of this thread makes me laugh :lol: :LOL:
 
degenaro":mcs8w03a said:
shred-o-holic":mcs8w03a said:
YJM basically started the whole Neoclassical thing so props be to him as an originator of a style.....and.....MAB is this mechanical no feeling beast on most of his stuff......I would take Rusty Cooley over him any day of the week.....then again Yngwie has plenty of feeling and that first Rising Force album is a classic.....
He popularized it but certainly did not start it. It took a huge helping of Blackmore and Uli Roth who had already done the ground work for it. Same with sweep picking arpeggios, listen to Chaplin and I off Uli Roth's Fire Wind, that's where he copped it. And Uli got it from Chet Atkins. As much as I dig Yngwie, lets not forget the guys that handed him the tools to do what he did/does...


True and when one listens to baroque/classical one hears a barrage of notes but they have a MUSICAL POINT not a TECHNICAL one which is where most people get confused as they see technical proficiency as the point; I love all of the 'shredders' but almost all of them suffer from having no songs, just vehicles to showcase technical aptitude and after a while its like ughhhhhhhhh enough already........I laugh when people argue about who created some of these techniques especially ignoring the jazzers who were doing this stuff way before the rockers.......... :lol: :LOL:

Eddie- awesome 'feel' and a pathological liar esp. about his influences very insecure
Yngwie- tone(early) and unmatched stage presence ever but he is the progeny of Uli and Bach- ( he rips whole passages off from classical/baroque pieces) hence not original in terms of composition but he loves his phrygian now doesn't he
Uli-a true original trying to push the boundaries but still a student of the masters
Chet Atkins- a giant but Johnny Smith must be mentioned along with him along with Van Eps (7 string Steve Vai?)
Holdsworth- a true visionary in every respect way ahead of his time both technically and compositionally

Just my .02
 
Wow, this much drama over two guys no one outside a guitar forum/magazine has ever heard of. :lol: :LOL:
 
Ayrton":2t2hb7yr said:
Wow, this much drama over two guys no one outside a guitar forum/magazine has ever heard of. :lol: :LOL:

No. Actually Malmsteen was a huge star all over the world for many years. He's influenced countless guitar players and had hits on mainstream radio.

Do I really have to tell you this? :confused:
 
ejecta":1jh7wr0x said:
mentoneman":1jh7wr0x said:
yngwie came onto the scene at a perfect time. sorta made king eddie's monopoly obsolete regarding the new shreddy kid on the block mentality. y changed the game in 83 like eddie did in 78. just when you were starting to wrap your head around ed's solos, yngwie redefined what it meant to burn with technical precision.

put the exclamation point on classically influenced metal. such dramatic leads he forced you to take notice. blackmore was throwing temper tantrums in rainbow and generally blowing chunks playing lone ranger motivated solos, when yngwie hit him right in the moneymaker, stealing his persona and running circles around him with bach melodies at paganini pace.

uli was in another league than blackmore, and yngwie did uli note for note more in tribute of an idol, than beating ritchie at his own arrogant gunslinger game.

i think shawn lane and jason becker took it even further still technically, as well as guthrie, and paul, but none of them have the historical significance in guitardom like ed and yngwie have.

and between those two, ed is rock hall of fame material...not so much yngwie due to his less mass appeal musical genre.

YJM made a name with very little creativity and originality and based the "WOW" factor on technical ability. It's like being able to type 5000 words a minute with amazing accuracy and saying what's already been written with very little originality or personal spin.

When you hear Ed, Hendrix, Atkins, etc even though they took from previous greats...... you know right off the bat who it is. YJM not so much.

when i hear Hendrix i want to sleep :lol: :LOL:

EVH and YNGWIE are the Best ever :thumbsup:
 
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