Mark V Trade For 5150 III 100 Watt - Worth It?

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I am considering trading my Mark V 90 Watt for a EVH 5150 III 100 watt. He is also going to include a ISP decimator pedal and a turbo tube screamer. I still think value wise, my Boogie is worth a little more.

I already have a 50 watt 5150, but I think the 100 watt will be better in a cover band sceanao where I need a clear clean sound.

The last time I played the boogie, I felt I was fighting it a little too much when playing leads. Sometimes it sounds amazing and other times not as good. The 50 watt 5150 has always been consistent in it's sound and always fun to play.

Do you guys feel value wise the deal leans too much one direction?
 
I wouldn't do it. the Mark V is one of the best amps being made right now, and the 5150 III is just a generic sounding metal amp catered to the downtuners and washed up hair rockers... no offence to you glam dudes. You will regret it later, maybe not at first but you will eventually...

It's not like it's going to sound much different than your 50 watter, just a bit more headroom and low end response.
 
Try a different cab with your Mark V... that makes just as much difference as the amp in many cases. A good cab with good speakers can make or break you tone.
 
What speakers and cabinet are you using? A Mark V matched up with a Mesa traditional straight 4x12 sounds killer.
 
I am using a couple of Bogner 1x12 with V30. I have the amp since 2009 and it has sounded great, but at times it leaves me discouraged.
 
I wouldn't make that trade. You already have the 50 watt version of the 5153 and should be able to cover all the same ground as the 100w version. I had a Mark V for a while and ended up trading my Mark V because I just didn't gel with it, but it is a great amp nonetheless.

Value wise, Mark V's typically sell for between $1400 and $1600. 100 watt 5153's go for between $750-1000. Even adding the Decimator and the Turbo Tube Screamer I think to be an even trade the other party would have to throw in at least $400.
 
I'll agree on the Mark V being a great amp as well, even though I own a 50 watt and love it.

Ultimately, you will have to be happy with whatever you choose, but please don't listen to much too the advise of the likes of anomaly and such.

His replies are personal opinions that he passes off as fact and is absurd.

Many many guitarists love the 5153 both 100 and 50 watt. I love mine and although is not the last amp I'll buy, it certainly will remain with the rest.
 
It really depends on what you are looking for. If you are like me and like variety, than keep the mark V. I don't have two identical of anything. Sure I have 2 les pauls, but one has hot pickups, the other paf style. I am all about mixing it up.

That said, there is something to really knowing your gear. And yes it would be easier to know a 50Watt 5150III and 100Watt 5150III since they are so similar. So if you are looking for a backup and to really dig into knowing the 5150III inside and out, than I would do the trade, provided they kick in some more money too as its not a straight up trade.
 
4406cuda":gq1u8cxh said:
I am using a couple of Bogner 1x12 with V30. I have the amp since 2009 and it has sounded great, but at times it leaves me discouraged.

Personally, I think the 1x12's are the problem. I believe these amps were designed to be played with 4x12 cabinet(s). People get away with using 2x12's, but still sacrifice sound/tone. I'm not saying people can't be satisfied with a few 1x12's, just saying you would probably love it more with a 4x12 cabinet loaded with Celestion speakers designed with Boogie specs.
 
anomaly":s9m6ka3a said:
I wouldn't do it. the Mark V is one of the best amps being made right now, and the 5150 III is just a generic sounding metal amp catered to the downtuners and washed up hair rockers... no offence to you glam dudes. You will regret it later, maybe not at first but you will eventually...

It's not like it's going to sound much different than your 50 watter, just a bit more headroom and low end response.


I use my 50 Watt in a funk/dance band, so there goes that theory.
 
As others have said, value wise you are getting shorted. Try to save the cash for a used one at GC and try it out...that way you can return it or keep it and sell the MKV outright.
 
I got to play the stealth two days ago.

IMO, the stealth is too compressed. I'd still take the 50 watt blue channel over it.

I wouldn't say that the stealth is the best 5153 offering, just another flavor that's all.
 
Agreed. More gain and compression isn't something the 5153 series needed. Individual depth and presence controls for each of the three channels is a nice addition, but otherwise I'm more than satisfied with the 5153 50w.
 
DICKROSE":3iqo3xxa said:
I got to play the stealth two days ago.

IMO, the stealth is too compressed. I'd still take the 50 watt blue channel over it.

I wouldn't say that the stealth is the best 5153 offering, just another flavor that's all.
Hmmm....most say that its WAY more articulate/3D sounding than the regular version.....which is why I sent my 50w versions packing.
 
I appreciate all the feedback. I am also taking into account there a almost new Mark V in this sites classifieds that has not sold for $1500

Also, the GC used site has the EVH 100 watt heads averaging at $1250
 
I wouldn't make that trade. The value just isn't there.

One recommendation regarding Boogies...if you find that the tone seems to vary each time you play through your Mark V, you may want to try plugging in to a quality power conditioner that will deliver the same power output each time you play it.

I had a boogie that seemed to either sound different or feel different each time I plugged in, and I discovered that the power coming out of the outlets were really, really dirty. Once I started using a good power conditioner, the Marks sound consistently amazing. Just an idea...
 
I wouldn't do it, either. My Mark V isn't going anywhere - in fact I'm looking at the 25 watter to augment the stable. Love the way that amp sounds.
 
The Mark V value will climb soon enough I see the EVH dropping and sitting at around 1000 while the Mark V will reach and sit around 1700 just my theory

Also cab wise the EVH 5150iii 4x12 sounds real good with the MarkV head and so do Orange cabs 16 ohm is key with that amp
 
jc986":3g0a53w3 said:
Agreed. More gain and compression isn't something the 5153 series needed. Individual depth and presence controls for each of the three channels is a nice addition, but otherwise I'm more than satisfied with the 5153 50w.

THIS.
 
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