Mark V

[droptrd]

got derailed...my bad

 

[jlbaxe]

It happens I'm really curious about the Mk V since I did the R2 vol mod on my Mk III. I like the Mk III Combo I have and was wondering about the Mk V combo.

 

[Gooseman]

got derailed...my bad

The Stilettos sound great. I've always thought that. They are going to get derailed because of Mesa's lack of support. It seems clear that if they wanted the Stiletto to be a mainstay, they would've equipped it with reverb and a third channel. To not have either of those features is what led me to not purchase one. For $1800, to have only a dedicated clean and dirt channel was unacceptable in the Mesa line. I'm not buying an Orange, I'm buying a Mesa. Compared to the rest of the Mesa line, I found it totally unacceptable. I get that with the Lonestars you could do that - those amps give you cleans and some low-gain crunchy dirt leads. The Stiletto on the otherhand was intended to be a high gain rock amp. It should've had a third channel, much like Mesa's other high gain amps. I like to have the versatility of three-channels.

 

[Les Zombie]

The 2010 Rectifier definitely sounds a lot clearer than the older ones. I dunno though, I'm still diggin' that Roadster. 4 channels is really versatile.

I currently own a 2010 dual rect and i owned 5 other rectifiers over the years and i like the 2010 better than the others because it is clearer sounding to my ears and the cleans are alot better. Its also a little tighter in the lows and has some nice features.

Roadster is a nice amp, i owned one for a year and liked it. I wanna spend some more time with the reborn rectifier before i decide if i like it better than the roadster.

 

[scottkahn]

I think the toughest decision anyone could make right now regarding Mesa/Boogie is the new Dual Recto vs. the Roadster. They are so similar and within a few hundred dollars of each other. Almost doesn't make sense for both to be in the product line as they're both Dual Rectos anyway.

 

[droptrd]

The roadster has its own sound to me.

 

[JakeAC5253]

I think the toughest decision anyone could make right now regarding Mesa/Boogie is the new Dual Recto vs. the Roadster. They are so similar and within a few hundred dollars of each other. Almost doesn't make sense for both to be in the product line as they're both Dual Rectos anyway.

They're as different as two different amps can be though At least as different as a Twin Reverb is to a Deluxe Reverb. Or a 210JVM is to a 410JVM. The Roadster has the Lonestar clean channel, with additional 'tweed' mode. It has a darker, spongier lead channel too. Smoother overall, which makes it not very 'Recto-like' at all really. I'd actually like them to have different names completely because they're so different. People tend to think of the Roadster as an improved Dual Rec with more features, and that's not true. "Well I want the Dual Rec sound, but the Roadster has more features, so I'll go with that." If you want the Dual Rec sound, get a Dual Rec, because the Roadster sound is different.

 

[Ricky Rockhardo]

the mark 5 isnt thin .. i run mine through a bogner 2x12 and its just about as thick as a recto on extreme mode ...

the amp does everything, i cant find one mode on it that isnt useable to some point ... the only weakness it may have is the edge mode on the 2nd channel .. i dont really use it that much but i do love the mark 1 mode and crunch mode on ch2, they sound awesome when you mess with the eq sliders

that amp is a total gas killer for me

The problem I've had with edge is that whenever I get it dialled in the way I like it disappears at band practice. I'm sure it's user error, I just don't have a lot of interest in spending a lot of time on it when crunch mode is much easier to use.

I agree with Big Rich here. Channel 2 is criminally underrated. I can get Mark 1 mode to sound pretty close to a DR in vintage mode. The Mark I mode is just stupidly thick its awesome.

 

[gibson5413]

Agreed...it didn't necessarily LOVE the tone, but it gave me an idea of how versatile the amp could be. Next step is to play the Roadster and the Mark V and see which one suits me the best.

Here's a good demo of versatility. I think I used one of his Mark V videos earlier, but again I like his because he's more of a rock player and doesn't just pound on the low E string.

What song is he playing at the 2:50 mark? Is that a Steve Vai tune? I know it, I just can't place it.

 

[Atropos_Project]

It's certainly an amp that one needs to spend a bit of time with tweaking and such. After owning one for about a year now, a few points about it... your ears may vary of course:

-every mode sounds best running @ 90 watts. The jump in headroom is extremely noticeable.

-a switch to el tubes made an improvement to my ears, though channel one does lose some of it's glassiness.

-enabling the loop / master volume mode is a bit of a tone suck. No good.

-channel 2 is the most difficult channel for me to settle on, since it's the one with the most options. I love edge mode, but it has a rather annoying treble thing going on that I can't seem to eq out. Crunch mode seems to be a favorite of a lot of folks, to me it's a little sterile / stiff sounding. I generally use MK I mode with almost no bass, and very little gain... sort of does the edge mode thing and sounds a bit richer in the process.

Outside of these nitpicks though, I don't think there's much out there that can cover quite as much ground for the same sort of cash outlay. Very happy with it.

 

[droptrd]

Agreed...it didn't necessarily LOVE the tone, but it gave me an idea of how versatile the amp could be. Next step is to play the Roadster and the Mark V and see which one suits me the best.

Here's a good demo of versatility. I think I used one of his Mark V videos earlier, but again I like his because he's more of a rock player and doesn't just pound on the low E string.

What song is he playing at the 2:50 mark? Is that a Steve Vai tune? I know it, I just can't place it.

"I would Love To" off of P&W i think

 

[gibson5413]

Agreed...it didn't necessarily LOVE the tone, but it gave me an idea of how versatile the amp could be. Next step is to play the Roadster and the Mark V and see which one suits me the best.

Here's a good demo of versatility. I think I used one of his Mark V videos earlier, but again I like his because he's more of a rock player and doesn't just pound on the low E string.

What song is he playing at the 2:50 mark? Is that a Steve Vai tune? I know it, I just can't place it.

"I would Love To" off of P&W i think

That's it. I forgot how much I liked that tune. I knew it was on P&W but couldn't remember the name.

 

[blackba]

It's certainly an amp that one needs to spend a bit of time with tweaking and such. After owning one for about a year now, a few points about it... your ears may vary of course:

-every mode sounds best running @ 90 watts. The jump in headroom is extremely noticeable.

-a switch to el tubes made an improvement to my ears, though channel one does lose some of it's glassiness.

-enabling the loop / master volume mode is a bit of a tone suck. No good.

-channel 2 is the most difficult channel for me to settle on, since it's the one with the most options. I love edge mode, but it has a rather annoying treble thing going on that I can't seem to eq out. Crunch mode seems to be a favorite of a lot of folks, to me it's a little sterile / stiff sounding. I generally use MK I mode with almost no bass, and very little gain... sort of does the edge mode thing and sounds a bit richer in the process.

Outside of these nitpicks though, I don't think there's much out there that can cover quite as much ground for the same sort of cash outlay. Very happy with it.

I thought the loop on the Mark V was supposed to be better than the loop on the mark IV, but I notice a slight difference in tone when I clip on the mark IV loop as well, but I have also wondered if its the pedals I have in the loop.

 

[jlbaxe]

It's certainly an amp that one needs to spend a bit of time with tweaking and such. After owning one for about a year now, a few points about it... your ears may vary of course:

-every mode sounds best running @ 90 watts. The jump in headroom is extremely noticeable.

-a switch to el tubes made an improvement to my ears, though channel one does lose some of it's glassiness.

-enabling the loop / master volume mode is a bit of a tone suck. No good.

-channel 2 is the most difficult channel for me to settle on, since it's the one with the most options. I love edge mode, but it has a rather annoying treble thing going on that I can't seem to eq out. Crunch mode seems to be a favorite of a lot of folks, to me it's a little sterile / stiff sounding. I generally use MK I mode with almost no bass, and very little gain... sort of does the edge mode thing and sounds a bit richer in the process.

Outside of these nitpicks though, I don't think there's much out there that can cover quite as much ground for the same sort of cash outlay. Very happy with it.

I thought the loop on the Mark V was supposed to be better than the loop on the mark IV, but I notice a slight difference in tone when I clip on the mark IV loop as well, but I have also wondered if its the pedals I have in the loop.

Plug a pedal cable in the send return with no pedals and adjust the loop level and listen for a change.

 

[Les Zombie]

The roadster has its own sound to me.

I agree and to my ears the roadster is darker abd smoother sounding and the reborn dual rect is more agressive and brighter.

 

[blackba]

Plug a pedal cable in the send return with no pedals and adjust the loop level and listen for a change.

I did that a while back and still noticed a change, but it was less. I will keep testing when I get some time, it doesn't bother me that much. I do wish the loop levels were not controls from the channel volumes on the mark IV. Just looking into getting a mark V, but was hoping the loop was improved....

 

[4406cuda]

Wasnt this a question for the Mk V? Has anyone used it with a 212 open or closed? or 1x12? How is the Combo version? Does it have the Black Shadow MC90?

I use my Mark V with a pair of closed back 2 x 12 Lopo cabinets at rehearsal and when i play live I use a pair of Bogner 1 x 12's.

 

[lespaul3013]

Wasnt this a question for the Mk V? Has anyone used it with a 212 open or closed? or 1x12? How is the Combo version? Does it have the Black Shadow MC90?

I use my Mark V with a pair of closed back 2 x 12 Lopo cabinets at rehearsal and when i play live I use a pair of Bogner 1 x 12's.

And how does it sound???

 

[jlbaxe]

Wasnt this a question for the Mk V? Has anyone used it with a 212 open or closed? or 1x12? How is the Combo version? Does it have the Black Shadow MC90?

I use my Mark V with a pair of closed back 2 x 12 Lopo cabinets at rehearsal and when i play live I use a pair of Bogner 1 x 12's.

And how does it sound???

Hmmme 1x12s live and not the 212s How are the Bogner 1x12s? Are they ported?

 

[Gooseman]

Wasnt this a question for the Mk V? Has anyone used it with a 212 open or closed? or 1x12? How is the Combo version? Does it have the Black Shadow MC90?

I use my Mark V with a pair of closed back 2 x 12 Lopo cabinets at rehearsal and when i play live I use a pair of Bogner 1 x 12's.

Interesting idea. That must kill most of the bass response from the cab, right? I've seen those lil' Bogner Cubes. They are small and come ported and unported, right?