Quick update. Received this pedal, and compared to a stock 808 it is smoother, less mid hump,quieter. If you will use it strictly as an overdrive, its great, very sweet sounding gain, so if you play blues or something where you would actually use the pedal's drive you might want to consider it, but since I only use tubescreamers as boosts for my high gain amps (low drive, tone to taste, level near 100%), it is about 10% different than other TS type pedals I have, so I will be sending back.