MESA/Boogie® Mark IIC+ full demo & overview ft. Doug West & Tommy Waugh

[skoora]

This is some good shit right here. Once again a modder makes what the manufacturer should have.

 

[Speeddemon]

That said, with the baby Fives at least my Treble Dump trick REALLY wakes them up. May work on other modern Marks, not sure. Give it a try. Standard 0:50, treble dump 1:50.

Hey man, I just tried this on my V:25;
the good: It *does* get bolder and more aggressive sounding
the less good: the low end becomes a bit woofy and bloated in the process.

Tried it with the IIC+, IV and Xtreme settings; Gain at noon or higher, Treble off, Mid full, Bass off, Presence full and gEQ in classic V shape; playing through a pair of Mesa Thiele cabs. (both channels in 25W mode)

I preferred a setting I made for the Xtreme mode: Gain at 2 o' clock, Treble 3 o' clock, Mid at 12 o' clock, Bass at 9:30, Presence at 2:30, + classic V gEQ. That came out quite ferocious for such a small amp.
I've also noticed that for neck pickup lead playing, all 3 modes of the V:25's 2nd channel remain clearer and less hairy than when I'm playing high gain leads with neck pickup on my Caliber 50+. I wonder where the OG IIC+ sits in this regard.

 

[mentoneman]

The easiest to dial in is the Mark VII. (even though it's not my favorite, this is true.)

The best at low volume is the JP2C, with a solid nod to the Five 35 on 25W mode.

the VII is extremely versatile and struck me as a hardware triaxis.
the tri was a boogie lover’s dream EXCEPT for the dynamic voice = digital GEQ.

a 2025 triaxis reissue would be a cool swan song before MB hangs it up:

R 1 green: Mk I-Lone Star vintage clean
R 2 yellow: hyper IV cleans

L 1 green: vintage santana/carlton/ford/timmons low gain blues
L 1 yellow: TC British crunch
L 1 red: prime recto

L 2 green: III- IV smooth fusion lead
L 2 yellow: IIC+/III+ liquid lead
L 2 red: ++/kitchen sink left to a user poll on what the people want.

with an actual analog graphic! NO MORE DYNAMIC VOICE.

 

[311boogieman]

That's great Simon

10/10

 

[Tone Junkie]

Seems on high gain it’s a squealing hog.

 

[Simon Dorn]

Seems on high gain it’s a squealing hog.

I have the Link copied and was just ready to paste...

 

[Simon Dorn]

 

[311boogieman]

Seems on high gain it’s a squealing hog.

That seems very abnormal to me - but what do I know. Not a Mark expert. I'm sure someone else here at Mark-Talk will have more input.

Seems we would have known about this already - over the years of use. He seems to think it is a design issue? Doesn't sound like a microphonics issue.

The real issue here starts around the 3:00 mark - no pun.

 

[50WEST]

Yea, that’s not normal

 

[PurityS.L.G]

Seems on high gain it’s a squealing hog.

That could be a bad pot. I've had that exact problem with 2 other amps in my lifetime. 1st time I changed all my pre tubes and nothing. Finally took it to a tech and it was a bad pot. 2nd time it happened to me on a different amp, learned from the first time and I went straight ahead and did a pot replacement on my own and problem was fixed.

 

[PurityS.L.G]

Yeah the reissue definitely has more mids like I've been hearing on the other videos, even with 750 scooped out. Thanks for posting that vid for us!

 

[Racerxrated]

It does seem to have more mids than the 4 I had; but my 750 was bottomed out and these seem not to be. Also, the feedback...he's got that gain WAAY up there, I never had mine past 4-5; that allowed me to dime both vol 1 and treble. Then, I boosted it IF I needed more gain. So, I'd dial that amp differently than where he ^^ has it. And, I've used a Decimator pedal for years, so feedback for me is mostly non existent.

 

[thegame]

Seems on high gain it’s a squealing hog.

What an Easter egg bonus feature! Built in Ibanez Tube Squealer circuit? All the noise, none of the boost!

 

[50WEST]

It does seem to have more mids than the 4 I had; but my 750 was bottomed out and these seem not to be. Also, the feedback...he's got that gain WAAY up there, I never had mine past 4-5; that allowed me to dime both vol 1 and treble. Then, I boosted it IF I needed more gain. So, I'd dial that amp differently than where he ^^ has it. And, I've used a Decimator pedal for years, so feedback for me is mostly non existent.

I just ran those settings on my OG ++ without any issues.. maybe it’s a pot etc.

Reissue definitely has a lot more mids, and they’re voiced differently to my ears than the OG. Once again I’m not in the room so…

 

[GJgo]

Hey man, I just tried this on my V:25;
the good: It *does* get bolder and more aggressive sounding
the less good: the low end becomes a bit woofy and bloated in the process.

Yeah, I can totally see that with a ported cab. Have any sealed cabs handy?

 

[GJgo]

There's the oatmeal!

 

[thegame]

Reissue definitely has a lot more mids,

That’s a polite way of saying less lows and highs

 

[Beyond Black]

As far as I can tell from available clips, it’s a really good sounding amp, but it doesn’t sound like a C+.
I don’t hear any of the sweet chewiness and complexity in the gain of the OG, and without that Ima go ahead and say that the feel won’t even be close.

 

[50WEST]

As far as I can tell from available clips, it’s a really good sounding amp, but it doesn’t sound like a C+.
I don’t hear any of the sweet chewiness and complexity in the gain of the OG, and without that Ima go ahead and say that the feel won’t even be close.

I agree 100%! Been playing my OG IIC+ all day, and that’s my conclusion as well, for whatever that’s worth lol!

 

[Beyond Black]

I agree 100%! Been playing my OG IIC+ all day, and that’s my conclusion as well, for whatever that’s worth lol!

It’s about to be worth even more! Thanks Gibson!!!!