Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Channel 3 HELP

[msuwendy]

Just got my dream amp the dual rectifier but after few months of playing i can't dial in the right sound for the channel 3 Modern,i need more tight thump but it seems the only thing it can get is more to the low end instead of the tight upper frequency and the only time i can get that is when i crank the output vol to 12 o'clock and 11 o'clock even though i got no problem with neighbours but i got problem in my ear eventually

Currently using the Base cab with V30 4x12 and JJ E34L cause i need the high a bit more than the 6L6,on BOLD setting with the Silicon diode

can somebody help me with a solution? cause i don't want to sell this amp and change again been my dream to obtain this

got no problem with classic rock marshall tone with the channel 2 and even when the clean is not roomy still a decent clean

but the 3rd channel is way hard to dial in

HELP PLEASE

 

[johnpace2]

Try clean boosting channel three with a tubescreamer type pedal. Gain on 0, level all the way up. This adds a bit of punch and tightens the bottom end.

 

[msuwendy]

Try clean boosting channel three with a tubescreamer type pedal. Gain on 0, level all the way up. This adds a bit of punch and tightens the bottom end.

TS9 or the 808 or the usual tubescreamer?

Thanks a lot

 

[cardinal]

I like the Maxon 808 with the Recto, but any of the Tube Screamers will do the same general thing.

Two other thoughts:
1) When I owned a 3-channel Triple, I thought Modern mode sounded MUCH better in Channel 2 and Vintage mode sounded somewhat better in Channel 3. The channels are NOT identical IIRC: the presence pots have very different tapers.
2) I liked the 3-channel a lot, but there was always something I didn't like and I kept tweaking and tweaking all the knobs and settings... Then I bought an older 2 channel and was done. As soon as I turned it on, it had the sound that I had been trying to get out of the 3 channel.

Good luck!

 

[dirtyfunkg]

Keep your treble high, mids high, your bass around between 9 and 11 o'clock, then sweep your presence knob to find the right spot to prevent icepick highs but have enough to cut. It doesn't work like that.

This is of my experience with the Roadster's channel 4 on modern, which corresponds to the Recto channel 3. Do not overdo the bass if you want tight thump.

I occasionally use my GE-7 with a frown curve to boost and tighten but it really isn't necessary... it's just icing on the cake for me for metal. I usually leave it off.

 

[Shask]

I agree with using an OD boost like a Tubescreamer. That will tighten it up and give it more of a percussive feel.

You could also try an EQ in the loop. Cut some some of the lower mids and boost some upper mids.

 

[msuwendy]

I like the Maxon 808 with the Recto, but any of the Tube Screamers will do the same general thing.

Two other thoughts:
1) When I owned a 3-channel Triple, I thought Modern mode sounded MUCH better in Channel 2 and Vintage mode sounded somewhat better in Channel 3. The channels are NOT identical IIRC: the presence pots have very different tapers.
2) I liked the 3-channel a lot, but there was always something I didn't like and I kept tweaking and tweaking all the knobs and settings... Then I bought an older 2 channel and was done. As soon as I turned it on, it had the sound that I had been trying to get out of the 3 channel.

Good luck!

Thanks for the input,down here it is really hard to test one pedal to another cause we don't have the return policy and yes been tweaking for months just don't get that tight and punchy tone it is always keep on doing the flabby thing

 

[msuwendy]

Keep your treble high, mids high, your bass around between 9 and 11 o'clock, then sweep your presence knob to find the right spot to prevent icepick highs but have enough to cut. It doesn't work like that.

This is of my experience with the Roadster's channel 4 on modern, which corresponds to the Recto channel 3. Do not overdo the bass if you want tight thump.

I occasionally use my GE-7 with a frown curve to boost and tighten but it really isn't necessary... it's just icing on the cake for me for metal. I usually leave it off.

actually the closest thing with the tight thump is just like you've recommended, i did high at around 3,mid around 11 and bass around 9 o'clock and presence around 3 in which sometimes its a bit ear piercing, but that just don't tighten it enough that is what confused me,at first i thought it lacks of treble and too much low end for the 6l6 but after changing the tubes to E34l i fpunf it helps but still shaggy

and yes I've tried the boss ge 7 at the loop and it sound a bit thin and kinda lifeless sounding

 

[msuwendy]

I agree with using an OD boost like a Tubescreamer. That will tighten it up and give it more of a percussive feel.

You could also try an EQ in the loop. Cut some some of the lower mids and boost some upper mids.

EQ just feel bit lifeless on the loop tried it and didn't enjoy it that much,but haven't tried the tube screamer cause it a bit pricey so i need the advice first

 

[Shask]

I agree with using an OD boost like a Tubescreamer. That will tighten it up and give it more of a percussive feel.

You could also try an EQ in the loop. Cut some some of the lower mids and boost some upper mids.

EQ just feel bit lifeless on the loop tried it and didn't enjoy it that much,but haven't tried the tube screamer cause it a bit pricey so i need the advice first

If you have a GE-7 you could try to put it before the amp, and put the sliders in a /\ shape with the top of the point at 800hz. Push the level slider up a few also. Make sure the 100hz slider is pushed way down, and 200 about half of that. So, 100z at about -10, and 200hz at about -5. 800 at about +5 or so.

 

[H Golf Sport]

I agree with using an OD boost like a Tubescreamer. That will tighten it up and give it more of a percussive feel.

You could also try an EQ in the loop. Cut some some of the lower mids and boost some upper mids.

EQ just feel bit lifeless on the loop tried it and didn't enjoy it that much,but haven't tried the tube screamer cause it a bit pricey so i need the advice first

Digitech Bad Monkey. Tube Screamer on a budget.

 

[ace_operations]

I boost mine with a joyo vintage overdrive. It cost me $30 and does a damn fine job.

 

[msuwendy]

I agree with using an OD boost like a Tubescreamer. That will tighten it up and give it more of a percussive feel.

You could also try an EQ in the loop. Cut some some of the lower mids and boost some upper mids.

EQ just feel bit lifeless on the loop tried it and didn't enjoy it that much,but haven't tried the tube screamer cause it a bit pricey so i need the advice first

If you have a GE-7 you could try to put it before the amp, and put the sliders in a /\ shape with the top of the point at 800hz. Push the level slider up a few also. Make sure the 100hz slider is pushed way down, and 200 about half of that. So, 100z at about -10, and 200hz at about -5. 800 at about +5 or so.

Thanks a lot let me try it later,so i put in on the effect loop?

 

[msuwendy]

I agree with using an OD boost like a Tubescreamer. That will tighten it up and give it more of a percussive feel.

You could also try an EQ in the loop. Cut some some of the lower mids and boost some upper mids.

EQ just feel bit lifeless on the loop tried it and didn't enjoy it that much,but haven't tried the tube screamer cause it a bit pricey so i need the advice first

Digitech Bad Monkey. Tube Screamer on a budget.

Thanks

 

[msuwendy]

I boost mine with a joyo vintage overdrive. It cost me $30 and does a damn fine job.

Thanks

 

[CaseyCor]

I agree with using an OD boost like a Tubescreamer. That will tighten it up and give it more of a percussive feel.

You could also try an EQ in the loop. Cut some some of the lower mids and boost some upper mids.

EQ just feel bit lifeless on the loop tried it and didn't enjoy it that much,but haven't tried the tube screamer cause it a bit pricey so i need the advice first

Digitech Bad Monkey. Tube Screamer on a budget.

This. I boosted my series 1 single rec with a Bad Monkey as a clean boost, and a Dano EQ in the loop. I got some great sounds from that rig. I miss it

 

[fretout]

This doesn't sound right at all. You should get plenty of "thump" without getting into boosts.

Is the FX LOOP on? If you turn the FX LOOP off, do you get more thump? If so, with the FX LOOP "on", turn the 'send' control on the back of the amp higher.

 

[Shask]

I agree with using an OD boost like a Tubescreamer. That will tighten it up and give it more of a percussive feel.

You could also try an EQ in the loop. Cut some some of the lower mids and boost some upper mids.

EQ just feel bit lifeless on the loop tried it and didn't enjoy it that much,but haven't tried the tube screamer cause it a bit pricey so i need the advice first

If you have a GE-7 you could try to put it before the amp, and put the sliders in a /\ shape with the top of the point at 800hz. Push the level slider up a few also. Make sure the 100hz slider is pushed way down, and 200 about half of that. So, 100z at about -10, and 200hz at about -5. 800 at about +5 or so.

Thanks a lot let me try it later,so i put in on the effect loop?

No, try these settings in front of the amp.

 

[msuwendy]

This doesn't sound right at all. You should get plenty of "thump" without getting into boosts.

Is the FX LOOP on? If you turn the FX LOOP off, do you get more thump? If so, with the FX LOOP "on", turn the 'send' control on the back of the amp higher.

This is new,the thump is there but its not solid not sharp enough,never turn the fx loope on cause i didnt use it,let me try thanks a lot

 

[msuwendy]

I agree with using an OD boost like a Tubescreamer. That will tighten it up and give it more of a percussive feel.

You could also try an EQ in the loop. Cut some some of the lower mids and boost some upper mids.

EQ just feel bit lifeless on the loop tried it and didn't enjoy it that much,but haven't tried the tube screamer cause it a bit pricey so i need the advice first

If you have a GE-7 you could try to put it before the amp, and put the sliders in a /\ shape with the top of the point at 800hz. Push the level slider up a few also. Make sure the 100hz slider is pushed way down, and 200 about half of that. So, 100z at about -10, and 200hz at about -5. 800 at about +5 or so.

Thanks a lot let me try it later,so i put in on the effect loop?

No, try these settings in front of the amp.

That help a lot actually tried it already but its a little bit dry and harsh,the noise is weird with the volume boost but it does help thanks