Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier Channel 3 HELP

[cardinal]

What pickups are in your guitar? In my experience, unboosted Rectos are very sensitive to different pickups.

 

[msuwendy]

What pickups are in your guitar? In my experience, unboosted Rectos are very sensitive to different pickups.

Ive tried the jackson high output standard picup,alnico 2 pro set,sh1n and sh4 and the standard gibson pickup which is the worstbin getting the metal thump

The sd and jackson are close but always missing the solid thump

 

[cardinal]

Thump can mean different things to different folks. Can you post a YouTube link or similar to a band whose tone you're going for? I suspect you want a tone from your Recto that may simply require a tube screamer and/or EMG pickups.

 

[msuwendy]

Thump can mean different things to different folks. Can you post a YouTube link or similar to a band whose tone you're going for? I suspect you want a tone from your Recto that may simply require a tube screamer and/or EMG pickups.

I cant really find one cause the one that we heard from recording and the real deal are different

 

[Shask]

I agree with using an OD boost like a Tubescreamer. That will tighten it up and give it more of a percussive feel.

You could also try an EQ in the loop. Cut some some of the lower mids and boost some upper mids.

EQ just feel bit lifeless on the loop tried it and didn't enjoy it that much,but haven't tried the tube screamer cause it a bit pricey so i need the advice first

If you have a GE-7 you could try to put it before the amp, and put the sliders in a /\ shape with the top of the point at 800hz. Push the level slider up a few also. Make sure the 100hz slider is pushed way down, and 200 about half of that. So, 100z at about -10, and 200hz at about -5. 800 at about +5 or so.

Thanks a lot let me try it later,so i put in on the effect loop?

No, try these settings in front of the amp.

That help a lot actually tried it already but its a little bit dry and harsh,the noise is weird with the volume boost but it does help thanks

If you liked that, then you will probably like a Tubescreamer. A Tubescreamer has a very similar EQ curve. It will just also add more volume and compression.

 

[dirtyfunkg]

Keep your treble high, mids high, your bass around between 9 and 11 o'clock, then sweep your presence knob to find the right spot to prevent icepick highs but have enough to cut. It doesn't work like that.

This is of my experience with the Roadster's channel 4 on modern, which corresponds to the Recto channel 3. Do not overdo the bass if you want tight thump.

I occasionally use my GE-7 with a frown curve to boost and tighten but it really isn't necessary... it's just icing on the cake for me for metal. I usually leave it off.

actually the closest thing with the tight thump is just like you've recommended, i did high at around 3,mid around 11 and bass around 9 o'clock and presence around 3 in which sometimes its a bit ear piercing, but that just don't tighten it enough that is what confused me,at first i thought it lacks of treble and too much low end for the 6l6 but after changing the tubes to E34l i fpunf it helps but still shaggy

and yes I've tried the boss ge 7 at the loop and it sound a bit thin and kinda lifeless sounding

Sorry, I meant to put the GE-7 in front of the amp as a boost, not in the loop. I never put an EQ in the loop. I also meant to say "It doesn't work like that" with regards to cranking the bass pot on the amplifier. That just makes it muddy. The Mesa Recto eq scheme emphasizes cranking the treble and mids as the "gatekeeper" so to speak to getting good bass and tightness. I also strongly discourage scooping your mids, which it sounds like you're doing. The mids are your friend, especially on the Rectos.

I'm using 6L6's in my Roadster, but my Tremoverb has EL34's. The same EQ rules generally apply for what you're looking for. You need the treble and mids up. Sweep those knobs with the bass around 9:00.

The way I look at it with these amps is that the signal runs like this: Guitar-->Gain-->Treble-->Middle-->Bass-->Presence-->Master. Everything earlier in the chain affects with what comes later, so the amount of treble you have affects how the mids work, the treble and mids affect how the bass works, they all affect how the presence works. It's a serial relationship, not parallel, and the direction matters. Bass doesn't have a strong effect on treble, but treble has a strong effect on bass. It's more or less a one way relationship. This is the trick to EQing a Mesa. It took me a long time to come to terms with this.

EDIT: I did try my other guitarist's TS9dx with your standard Volume dimed, gain at or around 0, and tone sweeped, and I tried it in every TS setting offered on that pedal. I also tried my SD-1. Neither gave the the results I was looking for as well as the GE-7 did. My GE-7 is Monteallum modded, but I really don't know if that makes a difference. And again, the GE-7 is one of those things where I find it absolutely necessary, but it's a "nice to have."