I owned a red stripe III DRG for about 5 years and while it was a good amp I wouldn't put it in the same league as a IIC+. It was kinda cold, stiff, harsh sounding to be honest. My current Mark IVb blows it away IMO, it's got a lot more feel to it, and gets just as aggressive with the right settings.I had a Studio modded to IIC+ specs. Ran it thru a Strategy 400. Sounded boring. No where NEAR a IIC+(+). Mark III Red Stripe was better for Metal than the IIC+ I owned. The IIC++ is better than both.
I had a IIC+ over a decade ago so I’m going off memory…First I don’t notice any low end cut what so ever. Secondly, there is a nice upper mid push I don’t remember hearing before. This could be slight variances in amps of course. I love the IIC++. Tight as hell but gainy as fuck. Feels cool and weird at the same time. So aggressive.I owned a red stripe III DRG for about 5 years and while it was a good amp I wouldn't put it in the same league as a IIC+. It was kinda cold, stiff, harsh sounding to be honest. My current Mark IVb blows it away IMO, it's got a lot more feel to it, and gets just as aggressive with the right settings.
Isn't the IIC++ just a gained out IIC+? Everything i've heard about the mod makes me not want it done if I ever get a IIC+. Takes away the sensitivity of the controls and push pull pots, and cuts the low end supposedly.
Agreed. The second gain knob is super powerful. Wish Mesa would give us control over it again.Jp2C has the same 'problem' as the mark V, the gain is fixed at about 5 internally, and they only give you access to the lead drive control on the front panel
It is compressed and modern sounding indeedSounds really good,, just a bit compressed compared to a real IIC+
Well different kind of beast. I still prefer the originalIt's not even fair to compare is it??!!
The ++ mod leaves the low end intact. It adds more gain obviously; and the low mids are more prominent than before.I owned a red stripe III DRG for about 5 years and while it was a good amp I wouldn't put it in the same league as a IIC+. It was kinda cold, stiff, harsh sounding to be honest. My current Mark IVb blows it away IMO, it's got a lot more feel to it, and gets just as aggressive with the right settings.
Isn't the IIC++ just a gained out IIC+? Everything i've heard about the mod makes me not want it done if I ever get a IIC+. Takes away the sensitivity of the controls and push pull pots, and cuts the low end supposedly.
yeah other way around. The gain knob on the V and jp2c is the lead drive control on the earlier marks(I think the front panel "gain" knob is like the Volume I control of the C+? Or do I have it backwards?).
Isn't the IIC++ just a gained out IIC+? Everything i've heard about the mod makes me not want it done if I ever get a IIC+. Takes away the sensitivity of the controls and push pull pots, and cuts the low end supposedly.
I love the mod . my green stripe ++ is a fav of mine . It’s so huge and thick . You sounding after Mike B gets to it .Your comment was on pointThe ++ mod leaves the low end intact. It adds more gain obviously; and the low mids are more prominent than before.
Love it, “sounded boring”I had a Studio modded to IIC+ specs. Ran it thru a Strategy 400. Sounded boring. No where NEAR a IIC+(+). Mark III Red Stripe was better for Metal than the IIC+ I owned. The IIC++ is better than both.