Mesa fanboys...I have questions (mark III vs recto)

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Ok, so I'm feeling very Mesa recently and I completely intend on owning another one in the next few months.
BUT, of course it's never that easy.

I've considered a mark III quite a few times and I've actually been within inches of getting a Mark III on two different occasions...I've also considered getting another recto (used to own a rectoverb). If I get another recto it would either be a single recto (maybe another rectoverb) or a dual recto. i have no reason to consider a triple.

but I'm just so torn on which one to pursue. Obviously everyone knows what a recto is capable of...either love it or hate it. but I love the recto sound. A roadster/roadking is our of my price range, so it would be either a 2 or 3 channel recto.

As far as a mark III i've never gotten a chance to play one (or any mark series for that matter) but I've heard quite a few clips that were great and really had me gassing for a III.

so, lay it on me, which one would you pick and why?

I play mostly metal, so clean channel isn't very important to me...just to make that clear :)

oh, and PLEASE play nice...no reason to get riled up over two very good amps.
 
Do what I did and get both. :rock:

I don't really care for the recto for leads. It can do them, but it doesn't do them as well as the Mark III. I'm also always boosting my rackmount recto for the tone I want. The recto does straight metal rhythm tones a bit better than the Mark III, so if that's what you're looking for, I'd go with the recto.

As far as tonality differences go, since you already know what the recto sounds like, here's one of the first clips I ever made. It shows my Mark III in action:

https://soundclick.com/share?songid=4573288

Production is haggard and the lead has a few mistakes, but I no longer have the raw files, so I can't do a thing about it. Hopefully someone else will chime in with better Mark III clips to help show you what it sounds like.
 
I would take a MKIII anyday over a Recto. I've owned 3 MKIII's and 3 Recto's ( Two 94's and a 01 Tri-Rec) And the MKIII's owned the rectos. Better leads, tighter low end, just a better amp IMO.
Check out my myspace site, both of us are using MKIII's.
 
That's a tough one for me. I think I would go with the recto. I really liked the Mark III I played, but the Recto is more versatile and you can pull off leads with it, although the III's leads are better IMO. Maybe get both used? :lol: :LOL:
 
I have owned a Recto and now own a Mark III red stripe head. There is absolutely no comparison to be made between the two. The Recto has a lot of gain, but to me is essentially lifeless, flat and full of sizzle although it can go from mild to wild. The Mark III on the other hand is full of character, articulate as hell and punchy. It has a true signature tone, where the Recto can sound like one of a dozen amps on the market.

Steve
 
I give a other both vote ..... I own a Tremoverb and Mark IV. I have own a II and III. All are great amps.

I would go for a 2 channel Dual, Triple, Rack or Tremoverb if I was going to get a DR. The other ones are OK .... but I like these a lot better.

Code001 your clip was cool. :)
 
If you go for the Recto, pick up a Tremoverb, thought I wouldn't like it, but WOW, great F'n amps.
 
Get the Mark III. I really think they are such unique amps...for metal I think a boosted Mark III is my favorite.
 
Love em both, have an early rackmount recto and a Mark III coliseum. Both crush.
 
marks are nothing like rectos
marks are truly hotrodded fenders (yes, fenders), while the recto is a messed up SLO :lol: :LOL:
I don't like both anyway :aww:
 
Code001":9i4o8znz said:
Yeah, this is such a dull and lifeless tone. :confused:

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This is a two channel rackmount dual rectifier blended with a krank with an OD-820 pro as a boost.

There's a dual rackmount in the classifieds section. I would jump on that sucker if I were you.

If you have DI's for reamping, send em over and I'll gladly show you what mine sounds like :rock:
 
Yeah, I know it's not completely "recto" in the recording, but I can guarantee you can get scary close with a boosted early model or rackmount dual recto.
 
thanks for all the input...so dar some good points made. i forgot to mention that i really am not a fan of pedals at all so i wont be boosting whichever amp i get...so keep that in mind.
 
I personally prefer the Mark III...it has a much better lead tone and seems to be voiced better for old school metal. I love some of the tones that I've heard from the Dual Recs, but every time I've plugged into one myself I've never gotten a tone that I've liked (even though I love the Recto models in my Axe-FX and prior to that my POD???). If you play newer metal/dropped tunings/few leads, then the Recto may be more suited to your tastes.

I think a two amp rig with these models could be killer :thumbsup:
 
Neeklaus":2nrz0das said:
thanks for all the input...so dar some good points made. i forgot to mention that i really am not a fan of pedals at all so i wont be boosting whichever amp i get...so keep that in mind.
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Not to be rude, or even too poignant, but I'm going to say that if you're going for something very metal/hard-rock oriented, the boost is what makes the sound. Ask any pro-engineer or maybe I could even do some samples for you.

The only amps that really don't need the boost are some of the Engls (built in high-pass before first gain stage) and the new Fortin Natas that's gonna rear its head sooner or later.

You obviously don't need to take any word I say into consideration, but I've got a good grasp on the metal tone world. You want tight and aggressive, tube screamer is the way to go.
 
To me triple rec sounds always better than dual rec & diezel sounds better than both.
 
lolzgreg":aiskvu76 said:
Neeklaus":aiskvu76 said:
thanks for all the input...so dar some good points made. i forgot to mention that i really am not a fan of pedals at all so i wont be boosting whichever amp i get...so keep that in mind.
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Not to be rude, or even too poignant, but I'm going to say that if you're going for something very metal/hard-rock oriented, the boost is what makes the sound. Ask any pro-engineer or maybe I could even do some samples for you.

The only amps that really don't need the boost are some of the Engls (built in high-pass before first gain stage) and the new Fortin Natas that's gonna rear its head sooner or later.

You obviously don't need to take any word I say into consideration, but I've got a good grasp on the metal tone world. You want tight and aggressive, tube screamer is the way to go.
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Boost don't work with every amp. I've got a pretty good grasp on metal tones too, I've taken my tube screamer into the studio with my .50Cal+ head and recorded with and without the boost, everyone in the room, singer, pro-engineer, drummer, yes drummer all agreed it sounded better and more aggressive with out the boost in front.
 
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