Mic'ing a cab VS. Captures (using a mic) - are they essentially the same?

[BenoA]

@Metalhex I don't know which Katana model you have from the first gen, but it has a "line out", I would simply run it to one of the input of your interface and start like this. And if you want to try out a mic in front of the Katana, they record well at low volume so you don't have to crank the amp loud to have fun tracking your newest idea.

If you want a quick sample, hit my YT channel below and listen to my newest clip. Just a Shure SM57 in front of the Kat. I live in a condo and can't crank the amp loud and it sounded half decent (I think)

 

[Metalhex]

@Metalhex I don't know which Katana model you have from the first gen, but it has a "line out", I would simply run it to one of the input of your interface and start like this. And if you want to try out a mic in front of the Katana, they record well at low volume so you don't have to crank the amp loud to have fun tracking your newest idea.

If you want a quick sample, hit my YT channel below and listen to my newest clip. Just a Shure SM57 in front of the Kat. I live in a condo and can't crank the amp loud and it sounded half decent (I think)

Which video, the one from 3 week's ago with the Petrucci guitar?

I have the 100w combo

 

[BenoA]

My EVH/Unchained one from a few days ago

 

[Metalhex]

My EVH/Unchained one from a few days ago

I think it sounds very good in that EVH realm. I'd be going for a slightly different kind of tone for my recording that I guess I could only explain what im looking for only once I've achieved it. But yes I see that the Katana is pretty damn capable and versatile.

 

[BenoA]

I think it sounds very good in that EVH realm. I'd be going for a slightly different kind of tone for my recording that I guess I could only explain what im looking for only once I've achieved it. But yes I see that the Katana is pretty damn capable and versatile.

I was just giving an example of how the amp could sound recorded with a mic at low volume. The line out results are quite good too if you use the "REC" settings for the line out.

 

[tallcoolone]

I love IRs but when playing live a mic just always sounds better

 

[dead-pan]

Best practice would be to make sure the tone you are getting from your real amp is what you want. I mean record the real amp and listen before doing a capture.

 

[Metalhex]

Best practice would be to make sure the tone you are getting from your real amp is what you want. I mean record the real amp and listen before doing a capture.

That makes alot of sense actually

 

[Nigel]

Devin Townsend said he tried to go back to his Recto’s and cabs for the sake of real but could not out do the digital. It’s hard out there for an analog pimp…

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

The argument I could see is that at home, yes I can throw a few mics up on a cab BUT my weakness is likely always my room and what frequencies i am fighting in there. I have a 4x12 in a closet and another out in my home studio but because i more or less sound proofed it and treated it with good seal on the door, a lot of bass gets trapped in there and not a lot of reflections due to the acoustic panels. What IR's can do is using fantastic mics positioned where you want but then also another set further back to capture the depth of a good room from a studio. Sometimes, that added depth is nice. Also very easy to repeat... my kids are constantly coming in and want to bang around on my drums and they will almost always move a mic stand or nudge a mic or lean on a fader on my console... So I have really begun to lean in on the Real amp into load into IR. I do think mics are always better but I like the depth and polish of an IR as well.

 

[Metalhex]

The argument I could see is that at home, yes I can throw a few mics up on a cab BUT my weakness is likely always my room and what frequencies i am fighting in there. I have a 4x12 in a closet and another out in my home studio but because i more or less sound proofed it and treated it with good seal on the door, a lot of bass gets trapped in there and not a lot of reflections due to the acoustic panels. What IR's can do is using fantastic mics positioned where you want but then also another set further back to capture the depth of a good room from a studio. Sometimes, that added depth is nice. Also very easy to repeat... my kids are constantly coming in and want to bang around on my drums and they will almost always move a mic stand or nudge a mic or lean on a fader on my console... So I have really begun to lean in on the Real amp into load into IR. I do think mics are always better but I like the depth and polish of an IR as well.

I always thought that sticking my 4x12 into the closet may yield good results. But I don't know what I am doing so I wouldn't be able to know which frequencies would be bad or good. So I may look into the IR option. I'm currently upgrading my desktop pc with more RAM and a SSD because, on top of me not knowing what I'm doing, my sluggish PC just makes my "workflow" all the more slower.