Mixed a BE100 with EVH 5153

[Jeff Hilligan]

I loved it! Clean gain!

 

[luther910]

Sounds awesome

 

[HilltopExplosion]

One of the best tones I heard in a while.

One of the best tones I heard in a while.

Phargin aye
That had real " feel" to it
Well done

I loved it! Clean gain!

Sounds awesome

Awww shucks.. yer makin' me blush! Thanks!.. If I can figure out how to make vids, and use my recording software with real mics, I'll do some more!

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

I listened again. Fuck sounds great and I love you playing!

 

[Starman22]

That made me happy.

 

[HilltopExplosion]

I listened again. Fuck sounds great and I love you playing!

Thanks man! much appreciated!

That made me happy.

Thank you!

 

[Beandust]

Can anyone dumb down this signal chain for a newb. I am thinking I am reading and understanding it.. guitar into be100.. effects send of be100 to delay/rack input. Out of delay/rack to return of the EVH. Each amp has a cab and the be100 is dry, the evh is getting the wet/delay.. and no splitter is needed? I guess the line out* is what throws me.. I guess that's effects send of BE100? Dayuuum it sounds thick and meaty!!

 

[mchn13]

Can anyone dumb down this signal chain for a newb. I am thinking I am reading and understanding it.. guitar into be100.. effects send of be100 to delay/rack input. Out of delay/rack to return of the EVH. Each amp has a cab and the be100 is dry, the evh is getting the wet/delay.. and no splitter is needed? I guess the line out* is what throws me.. I guess that's effects send of BE100? Dayuuum it sounds thick and meaty!!

I know the Evh has a line out, not sure about the Friedman, but you can use the effects send the same way. I use a similar setup but w/d/w. Evh s send to a stereo chorus pedal in to a stereo mosfet power amp into two cabs wet, and the Evh output to one dry cab. The chorus pedal is the splitter for me, and no phase or polarity issues...

 

[Beandust]

Can anyone dumb down this signal chain for a newb. I am thinking I am reading and understanding it.. guitar into be100.. effects send of be100 to delay/rack input. Out of delay/rack to return of the EVH. Each amp has a cab and the be100 is dry, the evh is getting the wet/delay.. and no splitter is needed? I guess the line out* is what throws me.. I guess that's effects send of BE100? Dayuuum it sounds thick and meaty!!

I know the Evh has a line out, not sure about the Friedman, but you can use the effects send the same way. I use a similar setup but w/d/w. Evh s send to a stereo chorus pedal in to a stereo mosfet power amp into two cabs wet, and the Evh output to one dry cab. The chorus pedal is the splitter for me, and no phase or polarity issues...

So the output of the chorus pedal goes to the power amps return? Then out of power amp into the cabs. Which I do understand the output to cabs part as it's not in the signal chain other than amp to cab.The evh has a cab which is dry i take it and nothing hits the return of the evh effects loop?

 

[Racerxrated]

My setup is similar. Line out of Wizard MCI to input of delay SDE 3000, out to reverb SRV 2000, out stereo to HH power amp, out to 2 Marshall GB cabs for my wet sound. MCI speaker out to Marshall cab for dry. I also have a stereo chorus pedal that works in place of the 2 Roland units to split the signal to the power amp. If you don't have a line out your FX send will work just fine.

 

[Beandust]

My setup is similar. Line out of Wizard MCI to input of delay SDE 3000, out to reverb SRV 2000, out stereo to HH power amp, out to 2 Marshall GB cabs for my wet sound. MCI speaker out to Marshall cab for dry. I also have a stereo chorus pedal that works in place of the 2 Roland units to split the signal to the power amp. If you don't have a line out your FX send will work just fine.

When using line out are you getting any of the power amp section of the Wizard? Correct me if I am wrong but if I go out of effects loop send to say a delay out of that into a power amp into a cab I am not getting any of the power amp of the original amp? Maybe with line out vs effects send your getting both? It would be great to do this with one amp and control any channel switching from that so I can understand the benefit of doing it. I think lol. All the help/input is greatly appreciated!!!!

 

[mchn13]

My setup is similar. Line out of Wizard MCI to input of delay SDE 3000, out to reverb SRV 2000, out stereo to HH power amp, out to 2 Marshall GB cabs for my wet sound. MCI speaker out to Marshall cab for dry. I also have a stereo chorus pedal that works in place of the 2 Roland units to split the signal to the power amp. If you don't have a line out your FX send will work just fine.

When using line out are you getting any of the power amp section of the Wizard? Correct me if I am wrong but if I go out of effects loop send to say a delay out of that into a power amp into a cab I am not getting any of the power amp of the original amp? Maybe with line out vs effects send your getting both? It would be great to do this with one amp and control any channel switching from that so I can understand the benefit of doing it. I think lol. All the help/input is greatly appreciated!!!!

Nope just using the preamp of the head to send a signal to a chorus/delay with stereo outs. From there, at least one output of the chorus delay goes to a separate power amp to power another cab. One out put can then come back to the effects return of the head and then to a cab as well for stereo. In my case the two outputs of the chorus go to both sides of the power amp to two separate cabs, then the speaker out of the Evh just runs a dry cab. I think that’s basically how racerxrated is running his as well. Huge stereo spread.

 

[Racerxrated]

My setup is similar. Line out of Wizard MCI to input of delay SDE 3000, out to reverb SRV 2000, out stereo to HH power amp, out to 2 Marshall GB cabs for my wet sound. MCI speaker out to Marshall cab for dry. I also have a stereo chorus pedal that works in place of the 2 Roland units to split the signal to the power amp. If you don't have a line out your FX send will work just fine.

When using line out are you getting any of the power amp section of the Wizard? Correct me if I am wrong but if I go out of effects loop send to say a delay out of that into a power amp into a cab I am not getting any of the power amp of the original amp? Maybe with line out vs effects send your getting both? It would be great to do this with one amp and control any channel switching from that so I can understand the benefit of doing it. I think lol. All the help/input is greatly appreciated!!!!

Yes, the line out is usually off of a speaker tap, I think, and you will get both pre/power sections vs the FX send which will be just the pre section. Depending on the power amp you use, it will change your tone a bit into the wet cabs vs the dry cab. The HH amp I use was the industry standard for yrs and now the Matrix stuff is very close to the HH ability to mirror the original amps tone into the wet cabs.
The way you describe your setup will work fine. And if your delay has 2 outs, when you engage it it will give you a really cool stereo separation between the wet cabs. A simple Boss stereo chorus will also work. They will be noisier than a nicer rack unit, like an Intellifex for example.

 

[Racerxrated]

My setup is similar. Line out of Wizard MCI to input of delay SDE 3000, out to reverb SRV 2000, out stereo to HH power amp, out to 2 Marshall GB cabs for my wet sound. MCI speaker out to Marshall cab for dry. I also have a stereo chorus pedal that works in place of the 2 Roland units to split the signal to the power amp. If you don't have a line out your FX send will work just fine.

When using line out are you getting any of the power amp section of the Wizard? Correct me if I am wrong but if I go out of effects loop send to say a delay out of that into a power amp into a cab I am not getting any of the power amp of the original amp? Maybe with line out vs effects send your getting both? It would be great to do this with one amp and control any channel switching from that so I can understand the benefit of doing it. I think lol. All the help/input is greatly appreciated!!!!

Nope just using the preamp of the head to send a signal to a chorus/delay with stereo outs. From there, at least one output of the chorus delay goes to a separate power amp to power another cab. One out put can then come back to the effects return of the head and then to a cab as well for stereo. In my case the two outputs of the chorus go to both sides of the power amp to two separate cabs, then the speaker out of the Evh just runs a dry cab. I think that’s basically how racerxrated is running his as well. Huge stereo spread.

Exactly.

 

[Beandust]

This is great! And no splitter a/b box is needed. Thanks for the help. Cant wait to check this out. Now I've got a need to look into a good power amp or another head

I appreciate the help!!!!!

 

[mchn13]

This is great! And no splitter a/b box is needed. Thanks for the help. Cant wait to check this out. Now I've got a need to look into a good power amp or another head

I appreciate the help!!!!!

A stereo poweramp like mine is pretty cheap man. Something like the isp stealth poweramps would be super convenient for this. Mines an old marshall mosfet 400 watt monster that I got for about 150 bucks, but it works great for this application, and can power up to four cabs.
For me; there was no need to go crazy and get a super nice tube poweramp just to have a stereo setup at practice lol.