Motor City 2nd Degree Blackbelt DC Resistance

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johnny q":2q8h90yc said:
And by the way.....

I absolutely love how still........ absolutely no one knows what these typically measure.... :D :D :D :D

who cares? there are more important things to consider than what it measures. DC resistance has more to do with the length of the wire than tone.
 
se7en":jpb7kp5z said:
johnny q":jpb7kp5z said:
And by the way.....

I absolutely love how still........ absolutely no one knows what these typically measure.... :D :D :D :D

who cares? there are more important things to consider than what it measures. DC resistance has more to do with the length of the wire than tone.

Again, I get all this....... I was just curious....figured someone out there in cyberspace may know.

I mean seriously..... :no:
 
johnny q":39hvkxm5 said:
And by the way.....

I absolutely love how still........ absolutely no one knows what these typically measure.... :D :D :D :D


Id say the only one who could answer that is Wade. I dont know too many people who have enough multiples of an identical pickup to approximate a fair value. just call Wade and ask him.

OR

just install them and tell us if they rock your world or not!
 
moltenmetalburn":1dodfgq6 said:
johnny q":1dodfgq6 said:
And by the way.....

I absolutely love how still........ absolutely no one knows what these typically measure.... :D :D :D :D


Id say the only one who could answer that is Wade. I dont know too many people who have enough multiples of an identical pickup to approximate a fair value. just call Wade and ask him.

OR

just install them and tell us if they rock your world or not!

I should have the MCP equipped axe back tomorrow and it's going to get plugged straight away into a dimed 72 Superlead - may the rock Gods have mercy on my neighbors ears!! :rock:

JQ
 
Installed today....plugged the guitar straight into a dimed 1972 superlead and..........

I breathed a sigh of relief.......no squeal!!!!!!

These sound fabulous. Great harmonic swirl and complexity, a huge bottom end/zero mud....great bite on the treble strings. Bend a note and it trails off into beautiful controlled feedback. The bridge is bright, but in a pleasing/zero ice-pick way. String to string separation is awesome...in fact after the Superlead workout I plugged the guitar into my 5150 with some serious gain and you could still hear the pick attack and individual strings. The neck sings beautifully and the middle position has great quack, especially when rolling the neck volume back to about 7-8.....this is instant "Since I've been loving You."

What is totally cool, is despite the fact that these decidedly fall into a low output category, they slam the front end of my amp like you wouldnt believe.

Clean - these are just wonderful. The bridge has a Tele-like twang and the neck is round and mellow.

I may just have to stay home from work tomorrow..... :D
 
Just wanted to add that I just got my set on New Years eve(thank you Jerry!!!!) and put the neck 2nd Degree in my orange Charvel which has an Afwayu in the bridge.The tone of the neck model is unreal and sings like I've never heard a neck pickup do before.The bridge model I put in my ash Jake E Lee "Whitey" replica and it's stunning! The clarity,attack and bloom are sick.It's tighter in the bottom than the Afwayu as well and doesn't compress as much.I absolutley love it.I think I'm going to get another one to replace the Afwayu in the Charvel.And for the folks who think it maybe too low output for hard rock or metal,it really surprised me at how these drive your amp.It can do it all.
 
The dc resistance of these are around 8.4 to 8.6k when you measure them it will change depending on how hot it is in the room. Colder = a lower number hot will get a higher number also everyones meters are not exact either. These are my all time favs from wade. Dave
 
RACKSYSTEMS":3h62ilz8 said:
The dc resistance of these are around 8.4 to 8.6k when you measure them it will change depending on how hot it is in the room. Colder = a lower number hot will get a higher number also everyones meters are not exact either. These are my all time favs from wade. Dave

Ah....finally an answer!!! :lol: :LOL:

But I am starting to think that these are wound all over the place, cause some of my freinds have 2nd degree bridge pickups that measure 8.8 and 8.9 and these were taken a few times with the temp changes/other factors in mind. My set which measured 8.4 in the bridge was noticeably brighter and more "biting" than the sets my freinds have that measure higher - fact (at least to my tinnitus challenged ears!) :)

JQ
 
johnny q":206w2b4r said:
RACKSYSTEMS":206w2b4r said:
The dc resistance of these are around 8.4 to 8.6k when you measure them it will change depending on how hot it is in the room. Colder = a lower number hot will get a higher number also everyones meters are not exact either. These are my all time favs from wade. Dave

Ah....finally an answer!!! :lol: :LOL:

But I am starting to think that these are wound all over the place, cause some of my freinds have 2nd degree bridge pickups that measure 8.8 and 8.9 and these were taken a few times with the temp changes/other factors in mind. My set which measured 8.4 in the bridge was noticeably brighter and more "biting" than the sets my freinds have that measure higher - fact (at least to my tinnitus challenged ears!) :)

JQ


It sounds like you expect there to be exactly matching measurements which is unlikely given the variables.

these are hand wound pickups no two will ever be exactly alike. the same is true for guitars play five of the exact same model and you'll be surprised how much they can vary even though "identical".
 
moltenmetalburn":go3pe22b said:
johnny q":go3pe22b said:
RACKSYSTEMS":go3pe22b said:
The dc resistance of these are around 8.4 to 8.6k when you measure them it will change depending on how hot it is in the room. Colder = a lower number hot will get a higher number also everyones meters are not exact either. These are my all time favs from wade. Dave

Ah....finally an answer!!! :lol: :LOL:

But I am starting to think that these are wound all over the place, cause some of my freinds have 2nd degree bridge pickups that measure 8.8 and 8.9 and these were taken a few times with the temp changes/other factors in mind. My set which measured 8.4 in the bridge was noticeably brighter and more "biting" than the sets my freinds have that measure higher - fact (at least to my tinnitus challenged ears!) :)

JQ


It sounds like you expect there to be exactly matching measurements which is unlikely given the variables.

these are hand wound pickups no two will ever be exactly alike. the same is true for guitars play five of the exact same model and you'll be surprised how much they can vary even though "identical".

No - but don't you agree that even with (todays) hand wound pickups a variance within the same model from 8.4k to 8.9k with such a difference in sound is a bit much? And BTW - this is just an observation/curiosity....nothing more. ;) Pethaps that's part of the "charm" of these pickups, they vary wildly like the original PAF's did.
 
johnny q":1cbl6tf6 said:
moltenmetalburn":1cbl6tf6 said:
johnny q":1cbl6tf6 said:
RACKSYSTEMS":1cbl6tf6 said:
The dc resistance of these are around 8.4 to 8.6k when you measure them it will change depending on how hot it is in the room. Colder = a lower number hot will get a higher number also everyones meters are not exact either. These are my all time favs from wade. Dave

Ah....finally an answer!!! :lol: :LOL:

But I am starting to think that these are wound all over the place, cause some of my freinds have 2nd degree bridge pickups that measure 8.8 and 8.9 and these were taken a few times with the temp changes/other factors in mind. My set which measured 8.4 in the bridge was noticeably brighter and more "biting" than the sets my freinds have that measure higher - fact (at least to my tinnitus challenged ears!) :)

JQ


It sounds like you expect there to be exactly matching measurements which is unlikely given the variables.

these are hand wound pickups no two will ever be exactly alike. the same is true for guitars play five of the exact same model and you'll be surprised how much they can vary even though "identical".

No - but don't you agree that even with (todays) hand wound pickups a variance within the same model from 8.4k to 8.9k with such a difference in sound is a bit much? And BTW - this is just an observation/curiosity....nothing more. ;) Pethaps that's part of the "charm" of these pickups, they vary wildly like the original PAF's did.

honestly I have two of the same motor cities that measure differently and sound no different in the same guitar, i checked. I'm not convinced they do actually sound as different as you say, no offense.
 
moltenmetalburn":2gd00kbe said:
johnny q":2gd00kbe said:
moltenmetalburn":2gd00kbe said:
johnny q":2gd00kbe said:
RACKSYSTEMS":2gd00kbe said:
The dc resistance of these are around 8.4 to 8.6k when you measure them it will change depending on how hot it is in the room. Colder = a lower number hot will get a higher number also everyones meters are not exact either. These are my all time favs from wade. Dave

Ah....finally an answer!!! :lol: :LOL:

But I am starting to think that these are wound all over the place, cause some of my freinds have 2nd degree bridge pickups that measure 8.8 and 8.9 and these were taken a few times with the temp changes/other factors in mind. My set which measured 8.4 in the bridge was noticeably brighter and more "biting" than the sets my freinds have that measure higher - fact (at least to my tinnitus challenged ears!) :)

JQ


It sounds like you expect there to be exactly matching measurements which is unlikely given the variables.

these are hand wound pickups no two will ever be exactly alike. the same is true for guitars play five of the exact same model and you'll be surprised how much they can vary even though "identical".

No - but don't you agree that even with (todays) hand wound pickups a variance within the same model from 8.4k to 8.9k with such a difference in sound is a bit much? And BTW - this is just an observation/curiosity....nothing more. ;) Pethaps that's part of the "charm" of these pickups, they vary wildly like the original PAF's did.

honestly I have two of the same motor cities that measure differently and sound no different in the same guitar, i checked. I'm not convinced they do actually sound as different as you say, no offense.

No offense taken, but I assure you...they are as different as two separate models and I am not the only one who has listened side by side and agreed..so we will just have to agree, to disagree...

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