My Revv amp story

[scottosan]

I think you came to the wrong forum. Probably should go hang out at Ultimate Guitar or something. The "i can't afford it and i don't think it's worth it" rant in every other thread from you gets old pretty quickly.

I came here to find out what you gear-snobs thought about the cheap Boss Katana.
And apparently, some of you think it is great. So that helped me decide to get one.

And you are right. This forum is very "boutique snobby" when it comes to gear.
People around here don't seem too interested in "value". You guys just keep congratulating
each other when someone drops $4k on a new amp.
As if the winner is the guy who spends the most money. And how many of you are
professional musicians? Who around here makes a living with their gear?
Is it really that vitally important to buy the very best gear, when all you do is play at home?

GAS is a strange thing. It's like a drug habit. You are always looking for that "new thing"
you haven't experienced before. Hoping it will satisfy you, or take you to the next level.

Value? I think the katana sounds okay. I just don't spend my hard earned money on modeling or digital technology that is antiquated 2 weeks after the following NAMM show and stuff with proprietary parts. Tubes amp can be worked on but most competent techs, most use standard parts and the technology is tried and true. To me there is no value in amps with proprietary parts

 

[PBGas]

This is all perspective for us as well.......

....I look at a couple of friends of mine who have hobbies they enjoy. One just spent like $4500 for custom fitted Callaway golf clubs and he still can't hit better than 120.

Another likes to go fishing at his cottage. He bought this beautiful carbon fibre rod and reel that cost about 3200$ US along with a mount for his boat! Just to go fish for a couple of 2lb bass at the cottage.

And then....I tell them I spent 2000$ on a used guitar and they look at me cross-eyed. LOL!

The key is....enjoy what you do and have fun!



Sad to hear about the Revv Amps thing though.....

 

[oldmtlhed]

Keep in mind that what you consider a "vast sum of money" might be considered pocket change to someone else. It's all relative.

That is certainly true.

 

[oldmtlhed]

The problem is with your insinuations that it is somehow wrong or misguided for folks to spend 4k on an amp. This thread reminds me of another discussion on this forum not too long ago concerning another member who had what some thought to be an unjustifiably large collection of boutique heads having way too many overlapping tones.

And that is my point.
It isn't that someone saves-up their hard-earned money, and invests in a $4k amp.
It's that some people have SEVERAL $4k amps! ( "Overlapping tones" is a good way to put it. )
So... at what point does it go from "collecting" to just wasting money?

 

[metalsoup]

So... at what point does it go from "collecting" to just wasting money?

I would submit that only the person doing the collecting has the right to answer to that question. Why should another person judge or even care? It's that person's own money to spend as they see fit. They've worked for it. Let them spend it however they please. In this context, the only person they need to please is themselves. What seems foolish to one, may be perfection to another. Trying to sit in on judgment of another's tastes in gear or music is folly at best. At worst, it comes across as self-righteous meddling. Let people enjoy making music however they like, even if it's not the way you would do it.

Each of us is an artist in our own way. What works for one, doesn't always work for another. And a lot of trial and error takes place till a person finds what they're looking for. Even then, tastes change, and then we're back at it again, experimenting. Perhaps it is a bit of a crazy ride at times, but on the whole do we not relish the quest? The artistic pursuit of music is surely one of the finer activities in life that enriches those privileged to have it in their lives. How much darker would your world be without it?

 

[D-Rock]

Revv Amps are about 20 minutes away from me, need me to go knock on their door for you?
I also personally know the guy who cuts and assembles the cabinets and headshells for them...

 

[Beyond Black]

The problem is with your insinuations that it is somehow wrong or misguided for folks to spend 4k on an amp. This thread reminds me of another discussion on this forum not too long ago concerning another member who had what some thought to be an unjustifiably large collection of boutique heads having way too many overlapping tones.

And that is my point.
It isn't that someone saves-up their hard-earned money, and invests in a $4k amp.
It's that some people have SEVERAL $4k amps! ( "Overlapping tones" is a good way to put it. )
So... at what point does it go from "collecting" to just wasting money?

At what point does it become your business? Nobody asked you to come here and "plant your seed" and attempt to make people ponder what they purchase with their own hard earned cash. We all get it, you're cheap. If you're happy hacking away on an Epiphone through a Katana, then good for you. Understand that what suits you, doesn't suit everyone. Give it a rest already, nobody wants to hear it....

 

[oldmtlhed]

At what point does it become your business? Nobody asked you to come here and "plant your seed" and attempt to make people ponder what they purchase with their own hard earned cash. We all get it, you're cheap. If you're happy hacking away on an Epiphone through a Katana, then good for you. Understand that what suits you, doesn't suit everyone. Give it a rest already, nobody wants to hear it.

I see some of you are pretty upset.
You go out of your way to chastise me, and justify the behavior.
We are all entitled to our opinions. And it is my opinion that some of you waste your money foolishly on
very expensive boxes that make noise. You people "want" stuff, and it's clear to me you don't really
care what it costs. And anyone who says anything about it is the enemy.

I play guitar too. I buy gear too. I have a right to my opinion. I'm sure some people don't want to hear it.
Those of you who have spent ridiculous amounts of money on your precious little glass-filled noise boxes
don't want to hear it. Because deep down inside.... you KNOW I am right.

Everyone does foolish things. And everyone always tries to justify their choices and behavior in life.
Here is just one more example.

You don't have to agree with me. I don't expect you to. You can call me "cheap". You have the right to
your opinions, same as me. I fully admit, your are RIGHT. I am cheap.
Now you be a big enough man to admit that I am also RIGHT. Some of you people spend way too much
money on this little "hobby" of ours. It's silly, and you know it. But you try and justify it anyway.
Because you can't stop doing it.

If you are a professional musician, then you need backup equipment. It's justified.
If you make noise in your house, you DO NOT NEED several $4,000 tube amps and a bunch of high-end
matching cabinets to go with them. You don't.
BIG DIFFERENCE between NEED and WANT. That's all I said. And it's absolutely TRUE.

If it upsets you, don't kill the messenger. Look within yourself. You are mad at me because you know
there is some truth and logic to what I say. But you don't like hearing it. So who is the one with the problem?
I am not mad about anything. And I am not the one wasting money on things I do not need.

 

[Beyond Black]

At what point does it become your business? Nobody asked you to come here and "plant your seed" and attempt to make people ponder what they purchase with their own hard earned cash. We all get it, you're cheap. If you're happy hacking away on an Epiphone through a Katana, then good for you. Understand that what suits you, doesn't suit everyone. Give it a rest already, nobody wants to hear it.

I see some of you are pretty upset.
You go out of your way to chastise me, and justify the behavior.
We are all entitled to our opinions. And it is my opinion that some of you waste your money foolishly on
very expensive boxes that make noise. You people "want" stuff, and it's clear to me you don't really
care what it costs. And anyone who says anything about it is the enemy.

I play guitar too. I buy gear too. I have a right to my opinion. I'm sure some people don't want to hear it.
Those of you who have spent ridiculous amounts of money on your precious little glass-filled noise boxes
don't want to hear it. Because deep down inside.... you KNOW I am right.

Everyone does foolish things. And everyone always tries to justify their choices and behavior in life.
Here is just one more example.

You don't have to agree with me. I don't expect you to. You can call me "cheap". You have the right to
your opinions, same as me. I fully admit, your are RIGHT. I am cheap.
Now you be a big enough man to admit that I am also RIGHT. Some of you people spend way too much
money on this little "hobby" of ours. It's silly, and you know it. But you try and justify it anyway.
Because you can't stop doing it.

If you are a professional musician, then you need backup equipment. It's justified.
If you make noise in your house, you DO NOT NEED several $4,000 tube amps and a bunch of high-end
matching cabinets to go with them. You don't.
BIG DIFFERENCE between NEED and WANT. That's all I said. And it's absolutely TRUE.

If it upsets you, don't kill the messenger. Look within yourself. You are mad at me because you know
there is some truth and logic to what I say. But you don't like hearing it. So who is the one with the problem?
I am not mad about anything. And I am not the one wasting money on things I do not need.

No dude, I (we) totally understand your logic behind your opinion. The concept is not that difficult. My point is that we get it, we all know how you feel about, you made yourself abundantly clear, now get over it. This forum has the same dozen people that have to shit on every thread with the same negative opinions every fucking time and it really gets old. You've made your opinion and reasoning quite clear, now don't beat a dead horse. Same goes for the Cameron haters, the Friedman haters, the Ceriatone haters, etc. Little bitches like these is why so many great members of this forum stop contributing....

 

[oldmtlhed]

No dude, I (we) totally understand your logic behind your opinion. The concept is not that difficult. My point is that we get it, we all know how you feel about, you made yourself abundantly clear, now get over it. This forum has the same dozen people that have to shit on every thread with the same negative opinions every fucking time and it really gets old. You've made your opinion and reasoning quite clear, now don't beat a dead horse. Same goes for the Cameron haters, the Friedman haters, the Ceriatone haters, etc. Little bitches like these is why so many great members of this forum stop contributing....

Oh. Now I see the problem.
I'm new here. But I see you have had issues with OTHER PEOPLE that have ( and I quote you "shit on every thread with the same negative opinions every fucking time and it really gets old".
Wow.
I was not aware that I "shit on every thread" on here.
Perhaps you have me confused with someone else.
I said one thing you do not agree with, and suddenly i'm the dickhead who ruined this forum.

Well.... now I know. We gotta be extra careful what we say around here... or we might open up "old wounds".
You want me to say i'm sorry? For all the aggravation those other guys caused around here? ( Before I showed up. )

 

[Deanmachine]

We get your opinion but it does sound like my old lady scolding me for a purchase and that is not what i come here for ...

 

[neuroop]

I actually think oldmtlhed makes some good points.

There certainly is a difference between need and want.

None of this resolves the issue that the Revv amp customer services has apparently sucked.

 

[metalsoup]

... And anyone who says anything about it is the enemy.

... Because deep down inside.... you KNOW I am right.

... BIG DIFFERENCE between NEED and WANT. That's all I said. And it's absolutely TRUE.

... don't kill the messenger

... you don't like hearing it

... So who is the one with the problem?

The problem is YOU'RE NOT THE ONE TO JUDGE another's gear purchases. Who do you think you are, anyway? Is everybody supposed to be like you, having your standard of living, making the same life choices for work, home, marriage, kids, hobbies, etc., that you do? If somebody chooses to buy gear for their own personal enjoyment, what business is it of yours? Who are you to reprove them? Who made you the authority in these matters to sit in judgment over others? It's your arrogance and self-righteousness, not your "logic," that people find loathsome.

Yeah, there is a difference between need and want. But what you seem to fail to understand is that YOU'RE NOT THE STANDARD and YOU'RE NOT THE ONE TO DECIDE where that line gets drawn for other people. People get to decide for themselves what they want in their own lives. If somebody buys a dozen boutique heads for no other reason than they simply want to sit there and stare at them, it's just too bad for you. There's no "logic" that supports your condemnation of how they exercise their freedom of choice in enjoying the fruits of their labor. Will you then be consistent and condemn the person who buys a painting for tens of thousands of dollars? What's "TRUE" here is that you know nothing about that person other than the one observation about some purchase they've made. And now you presume to judge them? Surely, you can see that this is not appropriate, yes?

 

[oldmtlhed]

I actually think oldmtlhed makes some good points.
There certainly is a difference between need and want.
None of this resolves the issue that the Revv amp customer services has apparently sucked.

True. So I apologize for hijacking this thread.
I did not intend for it to become a criminal trial or a witch-hunt.

Carry on, please.

 

[oldmtlhed]

We get your opinion but it does sound like my old lady scolding me for a purchase and that is not what i come here for ...

I appreciate your honesty. And I totally get it.

I certainly don't want to sound like anyone's "old lady".

Buy all the amps you want. It's only money. Huge piles of money.
You can't take it with you! SPEND that shit!



( I won't tell your wife, if you don't! )

 

[steve_k]

I make a point to send any amp guy a calendar in the mail and mark the agreed to date. Most can't manage anything but a soldering iron and have more excuses than Kellogg's has fucking Cornflakes. I don't know anything about Revv, but I would say you got lucky getting your money back without a lot of butt hurt.

 

[DragonCrestPC]

I make a point to send any amp guy a calendar in the mail and mark the agreed to date. Most can't manage anything but a soldering iron and have more excuses than Kellogg's has fucking Cornflakes. I don't know anything about Revv, but I would say you got lucky getting your money back without a lot of butt hurt.

I have a feeling you're 100% correct.

 

[Deanmachine]

Steve Ks new amp days are legendary..

 

[Starman22]

I make a point to send any amp guy a calendar in the mail and mark the agreed to date. Most can't manage anything but a soldering iron and have more excuses than Kellogg's has fucking Cornflakes. I don't know anything about Revv, but I would say you got lucky getting your money back without a lot of butt hurt.

That's been my experience.

 

[oldmtlhed]

I make a point to send any amp guy a calendar in the mail and mark the agreed to date. Most can't manage anything but a soldering iron and have more excuses than Kellogg's has fucking Cornflakes. I don't know anything about Revv, but I would say you got lucky getting your money back without a lot of butt hurt.

They just need me to come up there and manage their operation.
I will have that place cranking in no time.
But they won't hire me.... and no way am I living in CANADA.

So... it is what it is. Tough titty said the kitty.
Plenty of fish in the sea. Too many choices, honestly.