NAD: Bogner XTC 20th

BrentSP

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Steve560":1qgazim6 said:
After having played three different XTCs over the years, I'm waiting for my first Friedman amp, the BE100 DLX. Only the EL34 20TH Anniversary XTC is still on my bucket list. Do you think, they are comparable and cover the same spectrum?


Cheers, Stefan

I have the BE100 and XTC20 and they are both different finely tuned race cars but in the same race......it that makes sense. The XTC20 is a remarkable amp that covers what the classic does so well and that is big, open vintage tones but can get super modern and aggressive with just a few flicks of a few switches. If the 100B, 101B and Classic had a 3 some.........the 20th would be the result. Probably reinhold's best sounding amp to date.

Brent
 

Steve560

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Thank you Brent,


probably I have to have both amps in the end and have to compare. The BE 100 Deluxe will be here next week. I just always wonder, why everyone is so Friedman hyped. Is it that good? Will also get the 20th XTC next week, if it is still available and then compare.
 

Ventura

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Steve560":4itrr7u2 said:
Thank you Brent,


probably I have to have both amps in the end and have to compare. The BE 100 Deluxe will be here next week. I just always wonder, why everyone is so Friedman hyped. Is it that good? Will also get the 20th XTC next week, if it is still available and then compare.
Kool-aid is out there, it's up to us whether we raise a glass or not :thumbsup:
 

Steve560

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Lucky me, I received my Bogner XTC 20th yesterday and I have to say, I'm impressed. I already had 3 XTCs 101B heads (white chassis, 2004 and 2012) in the past and every time it was a cool amp but I was always fighting with the channels and how to get the best out of every channel. The red channel was most of the time my least favourite. Too compressed and too dark and also too chewy.

This time it took half an hour and everything was set. My favourite channel is now the red one. This thing is on fire and I love the aggressive and bright lead tone. In my opinion everything on the 20th version is perfectly balanced and refined. Also the Vintage and modern setting is fantastic.

I have to say, that now, when I compare the XTC to the Friedman Be100 deluxe, the Friedman seems to be a little too well behaved, too tame and not enough aggressive and dynamic. Didn't expect that but maybe this is due to the honeymoon phase;-) Will do further testing! :rock:
 

BrentSP

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Here’s a vid I did of the red channel modern mode. I rarely play any Metallica these days anymore, fun going back to the old thrash stuff.

 

Rdodson

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BrentSP":3c88as82 said:
Absolutely man, love it! Sold most all my amps and am down to the 20th and BE.
Love my BE (especially since changing the filtering and NFB to Smallbox levels), but man I miss the 20th!

Ron
 

ST.KTULU

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Brent, what tubes have you tried for power and pre on the xtc? I’ve mostly bought jj’s and Ehx 12ax7’s and haven’t delved much into replacing el34’s. I’d rather be on the quiet non hum side. .
 

BrentSP

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ST.KTULU":3kqbno74 said:
Brent, what tubes have you tried for power and pre on the xtc? I’ve mostly bought jj’s and Ehx 12ax7’s and haven’t delved much into replacing el34’s. I’d rather be on the quiet non hum side. .
In the past I’ve used quite a bit and always came back to either Ruby Chinese or JJ from Eurotubes. These days I just want something that is reliable especially in the poweramp. If I knew what I was doing and knew the EPA guidelines I’d build my own USA tube factory and makes some dang reliable tubes.
 

ST.KTULU

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Brent-thanks for the feedback. You’ve prob said it before but is 30-32ma what you are shooting for in bias? Where is the test point if I have a basic multimeter?
Rich, good to hear. Haven’t got to play a 20th but been experimenting with the hi/lo inputs and find for some pickups the lo has a certain feel I’ve been after. I’m in Dallas also and would love to grab a beer with a fellow gear head.
 
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