NAD: (Last week) EVH 5150 III 50 watt V2

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I got it New Year's Eve. I've had some time to run it through it's paces, and all I can say is WOW!

Now, I've had 3 of these in the past. One when they came out, (sold that to Rayneman), another a year later, and a third, around 2016? I liked them, but never overwhelmed, until now. I don't know what it is, (well, could be a few things, cabs, pickups, speakers), but this one has major mojo. It did, however, make me sell my Schecter Banshee, only because it made me realize I absolutely loathe EMG's. My Solo-6 Custom with a SD Custom-Custom and '59 just breathes fire, and I've never had such an expressive tone, with so much rich, harmonic goodness with an EVH, I've been actually in shock. I'm also running (4) UK Greenbacks in my Randall 4x12. Uh, yeah... Greenbacks CAN get tight AF. And, back off the volume a tad with the '59's, CH2/blue can do Gary Moore blues all day long, (a testament of a great guitar, as well).

I did a couple things, however, which I think really opened things up. Bias was around 29, and plate voltage 495. 70% would be closer to 42mA, but I opted for closer to 60-65%, as I've read many say, (including the amp's designer), that 30mA was recommended for a cleaner power section, but I went 37mA, and I say hogwash to 30. 37mA really opened it up, IMO. I also went with a Tungsol in V1, and Mullard CV4004 in V2, and a lower gain/balanced JJ ECC83S in V3, (it was graded 95/95, when most go 100 or more), and another balanced in the PI. I know the stock tubes are JJ, but there was a noticeable difference, IMO. The Tungsol in V1 brought some grit to CH2/blue, while the CV4004 warmed it back up, and fattened CH3 red a tad. As most know, CH3 is over the top, but also much more high-mid focused. This brought it closer to CH2.

It takes boosts very well. I hung onto the Airis Savage Drive, and I'm glad I did! It's just a beast with the EVH, clean, and quiet. Though, I picked up a Timmy that I'll have tomorrow.

I loved the Thrasher, but there was something I was fighting, that I couldn't put my finger on, (other than I kept telling myself I should have gotten the 120). The tone was there. In spades. But, the EVH is pretty special. I know they tweaked the clean/green channel with these V2's, (along with the added concentric pots for gain/volume), but, compared to the others I owned prior, this one is on a whole other level. I'm extremely pleased. It's just plain killer. I'm running an RP1000 in the loop for FX only, and have everything I need, (except a good harmonizer!)
 
Awesome! Glad you are digging it so much and thanks for the tube recommendations. I had a V1 that I sold a while back, and the blue channel tone still haunts me. These V2's have been getting a lot of love lately, I may not be able to hold back.

One thing I loved about V1 was how raunchy it broke up when you maxed gain on the clean channel. Does it still get as gainy?
 
Meeotch":27oglco7 said:
Awesome! Glad you are digging it so much and thanks for the tube recommendations. I had a V1 that I sold a while back, and the blue channel tone still haunts me. These V2's have been getting a lot of love lately, I may not be able to hold back.

One thing I loved about V1 was how raunchy it broke up when you maxed gain on the clean channel. Does it still get as gainy?

Red channel is absolutely as gainy as ever. Probably my only complaint. Insane amount of gain!
 
My EVH made me swear off EMG's as well. And some of my other amps crave them. You know the boost game well, but I'm glad I wasn't the only one that had this feeling.
 
misterspockyall":129kamr9 said:
My EVH made me swear off EMG's as well. And some of my other amps crave them. You know the boost game well, but I'm glad I wasn't the only one that had this feeling.

It sounded like SHIT with the EVH, the Duncans shined. Shined so much, I had to make a decision, and the EMG guitar got the broom. I didn't want to drop $300 and change to passives in a guitar I paid $350 for. I sold it for $450, and ordered another Jackson Soloist with Duncans from MF's Stupid Deal Of the Day for $599, (they were $999). Can't catch grouper, sittin' on your pooper!
 
Greenbacks are the best with this amp. I have the 2x12 combo. One (call me crazy) way it sounds awesome too is the Mercury Magnetics power cable. It opens it a little more and is about 25% more presence too. So when i use a regular power cable it is a little more congested, which is kinda cool for just shredding, but the Mercury helps big time keep the low strings tighter when doing more Black/Thrash stuff. A great $20 upgrade
 
Someday I'll give the 5153 another shot. I owned the 100w and 50 watt, both at the same time back 4 years or so ago, and I didn't really think either one was anything special.

The blue ch on the 100w was ok, but needed added gain from an od pedal for my tastes, and I never add gain from my od for any other amp. The Blue ch on the 50 w I liked better, but I still had to boost with an od and add gain via the pedal to get what I wanted. Kind of felt the mids had a bit too much kerang for me too. Liked the mids at first, but then it became a bit overbearing.

I absolutely hated the red ch on both amps. Didn't matter where I had the gain set, just couldn't get what I liked out of it.

All that negativity aside :aww: , I would like to try one again sometime to see if I'd hear it differently.
 
I play Black Winters, Schecter Pasadena's and EMG 85 through my V1 50w. All sound great.
But EMG 81 and SD Blackouts though...not so much.

With some creative preamp tube swapping I managed to contain the red channel gain, while at the same time not need a boost for the blue. Nothing but straight in with this amp.
Haven't used Greenbacks with the amp, but 8 ohm Mesa V30s are as close to perfect as I can imagine.
 
I have a Bogner 4x12 loaded with Greenbacks and Marshall With Greenbacks and V30s. The Marshall sounds better by miles.
 
MetalHeadMike":3g3xhcdo said:
Someday I'll give the 5153 another shot. I owned the 100w and 50 watt, both at the same time back 4 years or so ago, and I didn't really think either one was anything special.

The blue ch on the 100w was ok, but needed added gain from an od pedal for my tastes, and I never add gain from my od for any other amp. The Blue ch on the 50 w I liked better, but I still had to boost with an od and add gain via the pedal to get what I wanted. Kind of felt the mids had a bit too much kerang for me too. Liked the mids at first, but then it became a bit overbearing.

I absolutely hated the red ch on both amps. Didn't matter where I had the gain set, just couldn't get what I liked out of it.

All that negativity aside :aww: , I would like to try one again sometime to see if I'd hear it differently.

Maybe try the EL 34 version.
 
LP Freak":1i2hov32 said:
I have a Bogner 4x12 loaded with Greenbacks and Marshall With Greenbacks and V30s. The Marshall sounds better by miles.

You still selling the Bogner? Send me a pic of you are please.
 
napalmdeath":2scwotxm said:
Red channel is absolutely as gainy as ever. Probably my only complaint. Insane amount of gain!

Yeah I agree, I could never get the gain past 1 o'clock on the red channel, and even that was often too much saturation. My question though, is about the clean channel. You mentioned in your first post that you know they tweaked it for V2. Can you elaborate? Is there as much break-up when you max the gain?
 
Meeotch":e5tjskjj said:
napalmdeath":e5tjskjj said:
Red channel is absolutely as gainy as ever. Probably my only complaint. Insane amount of gain!

Yeah I agree, I could never get the gain past 1 o'clock on the red channel, and even that was often too much saturation. My question though, is about the clean channel. You mentioned in your first post that you know they tweaked it for V2. Can you elaborate? Is there as much break-up when you max the gain?

I haven't tried the clean channel! :lol: :LOL:
 
Metlupass2":37arrrh2 said:
LP Freak":37arrrh2 said:
I have a Bogner 4x12 loaded with Greenbacks and Marshall With Greenbacks and V30s. The Marshall sounds better by miles.

You still selling the Bogner? Send me a pic of you are please.

Looks like a Bogner
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