NAD......not sure

[RevolverRT]

Okay, so today is the first time i really opened up my 5150III...wow. I thought it sounded great at low volumes, it sings with the volume above 9 o'clock.

 

[4406cuda]

You need to find the sweet spot. On my amps it is usually just below or around 50% of the master volume.

 

[Findthetone]

Thanks guys. Buy stiff I mean lack of that liquid sustain you can get from amps. A few amps from my past:
VHT Pitbull 50CL
Mesa Roadster
Rivera Ktre
Bogner XTC 101B
Marshall JVM 205H
Marshall JTM45 ri with M/V mod

Of that group, I can say the VHT and Rivera were stiff and I can place the EVH firmly in that camp
I could only play the 50 watt 2x12 combo before I bought and it was fantastic. Nothing like the stiffness of the head.
I also can tell it reacts to pickups very differently. It's not diggin single coils
I've heard they are biased very cold from the factory so I'm going to check that tomorrow

You saying that the VHT and Rivera were stiff leads me to believe that it's the way you play that is making the amp stiff. Not attacking your playing at all. Some players don't agree with certain amps. Also crank that fucker and get it's real tone out there.


-Alex

Not sure what you mean. What type of playing can give one an opinion that an amp feels stiff?

Tone is in the fingers. Some amps react better to your playing than others.

Yeah I get the whole tone is in the fingers thing. I've been playing for 32 years. I sound like me regardless of the amp. It's not the tone of the amp. The tone is monster. It's the FEEL (or slight lack of) of the amp I'm referring to.

 

[Findthetone]

I did check the bias today and it was cold so I've bumped it up. I also put an OD in front and both things help. I just don't understand why the combo was so much better than the head version.

 

[Stramm8]

So, would you guys that have extensive experience with the 5153 describe it as dry? You guys say it's stiff, which reminds me of VHTs, Riveras and my experiences with Krank Rev1/Krankenstein, which are some "dry" amps, but is the 5153 similar? How similar is it to the 5150/6505+?

I really like the recorded tones with these, and I wonder if it's similar to the Mesa Mark II/IIIs tracking, where every little mistake is amplified to where you can't "hide" behind the amp, or if it's more forgiving like a Marshall would be.

I had an original Peavey 5150 when I got the EVH and my thoughts were that the EVH is a more refined, hi-fi version of the Peavey. I still love the Peavey but the EVH sounds even more "marshally" than the Peavey...and it's more quiet.

 

[Findthetone]

So, would you guys that have extensive experience with the 5153 describe it as dry? You guys say it's stiff, which reminds me of VHTs, Riveras and my experiences with Krank Rev1/Krankenstein, which are some "dry" amps, but is the 5153 similar? How similar is it to the 5150/6505+?

I really like the recorded tones with these, and I wonder if it's similar to the Mesa Mark II/IIIs tracking, where every little mistake is amplified to where you can't "hide" behind the amp, or if it's more forgiving like a Marshall would be.

I had an original Peavey 5150 when I got the EVH and my thoughts were that the EVH is a more refined, hi-fi version of the Peavey. I still love the Peavey but the EVH sounds even more "marshally" than the Peavey...and it's more quiet.

It is quiet. I am really impressed with that. I keep wondering how it would sound with EL34s. Wish it would have been an option.

 

[fretout]

So, would you guys that have extensive experience with the 5153 describe it as dry? You guys say it's stiff, which reminds me of VHTs, Riveras and my experiences with Krank Rev1/Krankenstein, which are some "dry" amps, but is the 5153 similar? How similar is it to the 5150/6505+?

I really like the recorded tones with these, and I wonder if it's similar to the Mesa Mark II/IIIs tracking, where every little mistake is amplified to where you can't "hide" behind the amp, or if it's more forgiving like a Marshall would be.

I had an original Peavey 5150 when I got the EVH and my thoughts were that the EVH is a more refined, hi-fi version of the Peavey. I still love the Peavey but the EVH sounds even more "marshally" than the Peavey...and it's more quiet.

I have to admit, that sounds like tits smothered in awesomesauce. I'm really familiar with the Peaveys, and if it has more of a Marshall character to the EQ or the responsiveness, I may spring for one!

 

[fretout]

So, would you guys that have extensive experience with the 5153 describe it as dry? You guys say it's stiff, which reminds me of VHTs, Riveras and my experiences with Krank Rev1/Krankenstein, which are some "dry" amps, but is the 5153 similar? How similar is it to the 5150/6505+?

I really like the recorded tones with these, and I wonder if it's similar to the Mesa Mark II/IIIs tracking, where every little mistake is amplified to where you can't "hide" behind the amp, or if it's more forgiving like a Marshall would be.

I had an original Peavey 5150 when I got the EVH and my thoughts were that the EVH is a more refined, hi-fi version of the Peavey. I still love the Peavey but the EVH sounds even more "marshally" than the Peavey...and it's more quiet.

It is quiet. I am really impressed with that. I keep wondering how it would sound with EL34s. Wish it would have been an option.

It sounds like an amazing amp. I've really liked the recordings I've heard, and one of the ways to determine a great amp design is in how quiet it is. If it could get that "EL34 grind", then it sounds like it would be a serious, well-engineered, larger-production-scale modified Marshall. Sounds like a winner! Thanks for responding!

 

[shredi knight]

What cab/speakers are you using. Cuz here is a test I did at home 2 days ago:

Plugged my 5150III combo into my splawn 4x12, and it's way different in feel than its own. Didn't care for it...but could live with it.

Plugged my quickrod into the 5150III combo's speaker enclosure, and didn't really care for that. Like their own matching cabs way more.

Point being, if you plug the 5150 into a mesa rec to cab, or say a old Marshall cab, it's gonna react different.

So I bit the bullet yesterday and got a 5153 50 watt head and EVH 1X12 cab....

 

[Marshall Freak]

Put a little delay or reverb in the loop, it will probably "feel" a whole lot better to you.

 

[Marshall Freak]

So, would you guys that have extensive experience with the 5153 describe it as dry? You guys say it's stiff, which reminds me of VHTs, Riveras and my experiences with Krank Rev1/Krankenstein, which are some "dry" amps, but is the 5153 similar? How similar is it to the 5150/6505+?

I really like the recorded tones with these, and I wonder if it's similar to the Mesa Mark II/IIIs tracking, where every little mistake is amplified to where you can't "hide" behind the amp, or if it's more forgiving like a Marshall would be.

Wait.. what?? I've had Mesa mark IIc+/III/IV amps, and they're some of the easiest amps in the world to play. Marshalls have always been known to be extremely unforgiving. I think you have it backwards. I guess the jvm might be classified like that, but no other Marshalls are.