NCD: EVH 5150 III

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I got my hands on a beat-up EVH 5150 III cab last Monday. This is my first experience with Greenbacks. I've been using V30 flavors for several years prior. I thought it was time to try something else. Initially, I didn't like it. It sounded muddy like I had a blanket over the cab, and I got tons of feedback from my Granger LO50 (SLO clone). Dialing in more treble and/or presence just made it have a buzzy/fizzy sound.

Then I switched it to the crunch channel and I discovered how they're supposed to work. The feedback went away and the tone oozed. The low end is so thick and monstrous. It's a growl I've never gotten outta my own rig. It's very reminiscent of Mastodon. I now get what guys are trying to describe when they say Greenbacks have a "woody" tone. It's like it's more believable and less contrived... The low end from my Bogner cab with V30/K100's always sounded a little overwhelming like a hum almost. However, I still feel the GB's are a bit lacking in the upper end. It's a lot smoother now that I'm using my crunch channel, but it doesn't cut like I get with my Bogner cab. I need the low end of my EVH cab and the upper end of my Bogner.

So... I think it's time to build a wet/dry rig. I'll run my LO50 on the high gain channel into the Bogner with V30's (probably replacing the K100's since I don't need their low end) with my delay since it has a really good FX loop. Then I'm gonna get an amp that's just filthy crunchy to drive the Greenies. I might even go with Curt again to get him to build that one for me.

Or maybe I just need a speaker that's somewhere in the middle of the two. But for now, I'm feeling really Spinal Tap and in need of two amps! :rock:
 
I have a evh cab, i like it with the 5153, vh4 and marshall 2555.
I tried it with my uber rev blue and herbert and didnt like it with those amps.
 
Just picked one up myself and it really kills with my SLO. This cab and my Marshall with 65s are the best cabs for my amps. Thinking of selling my Tonemaster(V30s)....
 
I'm Using Heritage G12H30's i wonder what tonal differences i could/would experience with the G12EVH speakers. I'm using a Marshall Jubilee 100 watt with a boost.
 
Racerxrated":q0righv1 said:
Just picked one up myself and it really kills with my SLO. This cab and my Marshall with 65s are the best cabs for my amps. Thinking of selling my Tonemaster(V30s)....

What sort of settings on your SLO do you find jives with the EVH? As I mentioned, my clone likes the lower gain/crunch channel, more treble and presence, and full volume of course. :)
 
To me the G12H30's (like in the EVH 2x12) bridge the gap between the high mid spike of the Vintage 30 and the woody thickness of the greenback flavored speakers. Its like the top "half" of a V30 and the bottom "half" of a greenback with the wattage of a greenie but the sensitivity of a V30 (i.e. for 30 watts they are LOUD).
 
You could always try replacing the EVH speakers on the bottom with V30s.
 
nwright":285qylm6 said:
To me the G12H30's (like in the EVH 2x12) bridge the gap between the high mid spike of the Vintage 30 and the woody thickness of the greenback flavored speakers. Its like the top "half" of a V30 and the bottom "half" of a greenback with the wattage of a greenie but the sensitivity of a V30 (i.e. for 30 watts they are LOUD).

Wow, that would be perfect. Do they break up like the GBs?
 
TX6Strings":1r5uz8yy said:
You could always try replacing the EVH speakers on the bottom with V30s.

Yeah, but I would expect the V30s to be considerably louder at 100db vs the 96db that the EVHs are.
 
barnesjd":2eqijn31 said:
Racerxrated":2eqijn31 said:
Just picked one up myself and it really kills with my SLO. This cab and my Marshall with 65s are the best cabs for my amps. Thinking of selling my Tonemaster(V30s)....

What sort of settings on your SLO do you find jives with the EVH? As I mentioned, my clone likes the lower gain/crunch channel, more treble and presence, and full volume of course. :)
Sorry late reply. I have bass on 7-10, mids 5-6, treble off, presence maxed and gain to taste for the G12 65 Marshall cab. I use the same settings with the EVH cab but add a little treble back in, the EVHs are a little darker than the 65s. Very 'crunchy' is how I would describe the EVH greenbacks. Got a nice growl..but the 65s are even better. Either cab is killer with the SLO.
 
barnesjd":f6i1h9c0 said:
TX6Strings":f6i1h9c0 said:
You could always try replacing the EVH speakers on the bottom with V30s.

Yeah, but I would expect the V30s to be considerably louder at 100db vs the 96db that the EVHs are.

It's not a problem in the Friedman (and new Bogner Helious) cabs. :confused:
 
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