D-Rock
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This is what I'm thinking as well.moltenmetalburn":28sqw0ty said:
mentoneman
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i've had:
pearly gates
custom custom
allan holdsworth
EVH duncan
TB-4
dimarzio distortion
paf pro
tone zone
high order 8.3
gibson classic 57
holmes 455 and 450
mojave
out of those the holmes 450 let me preserve the clarity, richer treble strings, and string/wood dynamic closest to what i want to hear and feel in a PAF. but at 7.8 it may not be enough punch for most players. it does let me get chewy robben ford territory wheras hotter pickups have a rock edge which are touchier to dial back for me.
the evh had more twang and heat at 9.7
the mojave sounds like a refined holmes 455 in the 8.3-8.5 range...yet less bass output from the pickup which allows more upper clarity
funny enough the holdsworth pickup was way more like a dark custom custom type output, which had the bassiest low end of any duncan i've heard, and the high order 8.3 was way more warm fusiony holdsworth tone imo.
dimarzios are very harsh and scooped to my ear.
pearly gates
custom custom
allan holdsworth
EVH duncan
TB-4
dimarzio distortion
paf pro
tone zone
high order 8.3
gibson classic 57
holmes 455 and 450
mojave
out of those the holmes 450 let me preserve the clarity, richer treble strings, and string/wood dynamic closest to what i want to hear and feel in a PAF. but at 7.8 it may not be enough punch for most players. it does let me get chewy robben ford territory wheras hotter pickups have a rock edge which are touchier to dial back for me.
the evh had more twang and heat at 9.7
the mojave sounds like a refined holmes 455 in the 8.3-8.5 range...yet less bass output from the pickup which allows more upper clarity
funny enough the holdsworth pickup was way more like a dark custom custom type output, which had the bassiest low end of any duncan i've heard, and the high order 8.3 was way more warm fusiony holdsworth tone imo.
dimarzios are very harsh and scooped to my ear.
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Anonymous
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Chubtone turned me on to Arcane Pickups. I like my Suhr DSV, SSV, DSV+, but wouldn't mind trying another low output flavor. I am going to order one to try and report later.
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Glimpse
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thegame":1ggy6m9r said:
What.The.Fuck.
thiswaythatway
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Digital Jams":zwlm5zsw said:
So what's next. Fender amps, Tele's, and Country licks?
AmpliFIRE
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danyeo":390zcfwq said:
Digital Jams
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Yeah yuck it up homos 
Just want to use some gain but maintain more clarity, played some dudes guitar that had some achooooooooo named pup and it sounded like this big bbbbbbbbbbbbbboohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Just want to use some gain but maintain more clarity, played some dudes guitar that had some achooooooooo named pup and it sounded like this big bbbbbbbbbbbbbboohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Kapo_Polenton
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The GFS EVH sucks don't bother.. no output, flat pup. I thought it might be my guitar but i threw an old PAF Pro from the early 90's or late 80's in there and it sound pretty good. Haven't been impressed by GFS stuff.. sold it for 30$
Chubtone
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Nico":19ky6zsn said:
yes it is and it's about the Duncan '78.
Zachman
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Digital Jams":3r6hn3sn said:Capulin Overdrive":3r6hn3sn said:how much output?
your post reads like you've been hitting the bottle!
think the most popular answer for just a little hotter, is i beleave the Duncan Custom, or Custom Custom, whichever one is a little hotter A2 than a 59.
Some of the best clips over at Metro are done with a JB, so it really is the hands.
my pick would be to find a used Warren DeMartini pickup. i suck and like the hotter pickups.
I should hit the bottle, hard.
I like the JB but looking for something a tad more tame, just a smidge.
Duncan EVH/'78-- I Love the pickup. I have it installed in my VH2 replica, which reminds me-- I need to get that setup (frets leveled), so I can have fun w/ the new Metro 12xxxM5.
Vic at Mojave has his version of the Tom Holmes PAF's which Pat (mentoneman) says are nice too
Chubtone
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I have been a long time fan of the Duncan '78 or the Duncan EVH as it was known before that. I tried all kinds of boutique pickups and finally said screw it and just went back to Duncans. I feel Duncans consisitently have delivered the tones I'm looking for. However, I have been experimenting with a new company called Arcane Pickups and I am digging them so far.
I recently was introduced to a guy in Burbank who worked with Tom Holmes. He also designed all the James Tyler pickups and built the first 500 of them. Now he builds all the pickups for the James Trussart guitars. The coolest thing however is the guy is located in Burbank, California in amongst a bunch of world class studios. He is consistently working with some very well known pros and routinely seeing the kind of vintage guitars that are much tougher to come by in other parts of the country and world. I've always wondered how many great sounding PAF's some of these boutique builders have been exposed to in their own little corner of the world. I mean, Joe Walsh isn't exactly bringing his vintage Les Paul in to you in Poughkepsie, Idaho you know? This guys sees these holy grail guitars on a regular basis.
His Brownbucker was the first pickup I installed and I put it in my relic'd, white Charvel So Cal. First I recorded the Duncan '78 that was in it and then popped this one in. The Arcane Brownbucker is still in that guitar and I don't see it leaving. I am also totally in love with his '69 Experience strat pickups. The other thing is his pickups are priced in between regular Duncans and most of these boutique winders. I am the only dealer in the country for them right now so if you think about getting one or some, please hit me up.
Here is the quick and dirty clip I did with no effects and some tuning issues and some timing issues. It goes:
Arcane Brownbucker VH Riff - Duncan '78 VH Riff - Arcane Brownbucker lead improv - Duncan '78 lead improv
What I hear is substantially better articulation in the Arcane and in a mix it really makes a difference. The Duncan is warm and compressed and squishy and I LOVE that. But when there is bass guitar behind it it is much tougher to hear the guitar and the little intracacies in the guitar parts. When I do the two lead tracks, I am more warmed up on the Duncan part and probably play a touch better, but listen to when I mute on the Arcane and you can hear the percussiveness of the notes and articulation. On the Duncan it is more compressed and that is fun, but when I palm mute it sounds undefined and messy. That was the deciding factor for me right there.
This clip was never intended to be for public consumption as it was just for me to decide if I though Arcane was worth messing with as a supplier. I'm putting it on here because I think it's fitting for the thread:
https://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... tent=music
I recently was introduced to a guy in Burbank who worked with Tom Holmes. He also designed all the James Tyler pickups and built the first 500 of them. Now he builds all the pickups for the James Trussart guitars. The coolest thing however is the guy is located in Burbank, California in amongst a bunch of world class studios. He is consistently working with some very well known pros and routinely seeing the kind of vintage guitars that are much tougher to come by in other parts of the country and world. I've always wondered how many great sounding PAF's some of these boutique builders have been exposed to in their own little corner of the world. I mean, Joe Walsh isn't exactly bringing his vintage Les Paul in to you in Poughkepsie, Idaho you know? This guys sees these holy grail guitars on a regular basis.
His Brownbucker was the first pickup I installed and I put it in my relic'd, white Charvel So Cal. First I recorded the Duncan '78 that was in it and then popped this one in. The Arcane Brownbucker is still in that guitar and I don't see it leaving. I am also totally in love with his '69 Experience strat pickups. The other thing is his pickups are priced in between regular Duncans and most of these boutique winders. I am the only dealer in the country for them right now so if you think about getting one or some, please hit me up.
Here is the quick and dirty clip I did with no effects and some tuning issues and some timing issues. It goes:
Arcane Brownbucker VH Riff - Duncan '78 VH Riff - Arcane Brownbucker lead improv - Duncan '78 lead improv
What I hear is substantially better articulation in the Arcane and in a mix it really makes a difference. The Duncan is warm and compressed and squishy and I LOVE that. But when there is bass guitar behind it it is much tougher to hear the guitar and the little intracacies in the guitar parts. When I do the two lead tracks, I am more warmed up on the Duncan part and probably play a touch better, but listen to when I mute on the Arcane and you can hear the percussiveness of the notes and articulation. On the Duncan it is more compressed and that is fun, but when I palm mute it sounds undefined and messy. That was the deciding factor for me right there.
This clip was never intended to be for public consumption as it was just for me to decide if I though Arcane was worth messing with as a supplier. I'm putting it on here because I think it's fitting for the thread:
https://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... tent=music
Digital Jams
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Damn did not see your post Curt, thanks for taking the time to type all of that out!
Funny thing is that I pulled out Vh1 through FW and listened hard for several days and I have come to my own conclusion that Ed's tone was imperfect in all of the right ways. Low end is loose but with his pick attack it is cool, chirps are from the lack of gain which make them cool, and he did go to the edge and brought it back just enough.
IMO no marshall modder has EVH in a box, it is just a plain good plexi with the right combo of stomps and studio grease and Ed's approach and pick attack.
Curt, if I saw this sooner I would have called ya but a builder of epic proportions and ill repute got ahold of me and stated......
" Digi my man, I have the pup for you and due to your monster internet posting cred I must have you as a user of my pups!!!!!"
Price is right and built very cool with shielded wiring just like the old PAFs
Funny thing is that I pulled out Vh1 through FW and listened hard for several days and I have come to my own conclusion that Ed's tone was imperfect in all of the right ways. Low end is loose but with his pick attack it is cool, chirps are from the lack of gain which make them cool, and he did go to the edge and brought it back just enough.
IMO no marshall modder has EVH in a box, it is just a plain good plexi with the right combo of stomps and studio grease and Ed's approach and pick attack.
Curt, if I saw this sooner I would have called ya but a builder of epic proportions and ill repute got ahold of me and stated......
" Digi my man, I have the pup for you and due to your monster internet posting cred I must have you as a user of my pups!!!!!"
Price is right and built very cool with shielded wiring just like the old PAFs
Superunknown
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The new Grosh Blown '59 Humbucker sounded great an NAMM.....very good EVH tones.
Kapo_Polenton
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Chubtone, I still think the 78' sounds better from your clips.. a little less bass heavy. By the way, you ripped it up in that Rig Talk Jam Mixed on your soundclick page. Great dynamics and attack. I dug that. Were you using a hot single coil in the neck?
Zachman
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Digital Jams":2qh281b9 said:Damn did not see your post Curt, thanks for taking the time to type all of that out!
Funny thing is that I pulled out Vh1 through FW and listened hard for several days and I have come to my own conclusion that Ed's tone was imperfect in all of the right ways. Low end is loose but with his pick attack it is cool, chirps are from the lack of gain which make them cool, and he did go to the edge and brought it back just enough.
IMO no marshall modder has EVH in a box, it is just a plain good plexi with the right combo of stomps and studio grease and Ed's approach and pick attack.
Curt, if I saw this sooner I would have called ya but a builder of epic proportions and ill repute got ahold of me and stated......
" Digi my man, I have the pup for you and due to your monster internet posting cred I must have you as a user of my pups!!!!!"
Price is right and built very cool with shielded wiring just like the old PAFs
I dunno, these sounds pretty darn close to me:
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nitro
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Rockstahs clip,the pickup he is using is a Dimarzio Super Distortion.
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nitro
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Rockstahs clip,the pickup he is using is a Dimarzio Super Distortion.
Digital Jams
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Zachman":1w861eh8 said:Digital Jams":1w861eh8 said:Damn did not see your post Curt, thanks for taking the time to type all of that out!
Funny thing is that I pulled out Vh1 through FW and listened hard for several days and I have come to my own conclusion that Ed's tone was imperfect in all of the right ways. Low end is loose but with his pick attack it is cool, chirps are from the lack of gain which make them cool, and he did go to the edge and brought it back just enough.
IMO no marshall modder has EVH in a box, it is just a plain good plexi with the right combo of stomps and studio grease and Ed's approach and pick attack.
Curt, if I saw this sooner I would have called ya but a builder of epic proportions and ill repute got ahold of me and stated......
" Digi my man, I have the pup for you and due to your monster internet posting cred I must have you as a user of my pups!!!!!"
Price is right and built very cool with shielded wiring just like the old PAFs
I dunno, these sounds pretty darn close to me:
IMO there is no need to chase around the EVH thing with different builders for a specific platform, a good plexi will get you close enough. I don't disagree with going with someone, just do not think you have to go that route.
Ratter posted a clip one time of his 1959HW that was very close as is.
With all the shit going on with flakey builders, guys buying amps just to copy others work, etc I am done with that shit as well other than a few select individuals.
Those clips do rock though
Zachman
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Digital Jams":218zpg41 said:Zachman":218zpg41 said:Digital Jams":218zpg41 said:Damn did not see your post Curt, thanks for taking the time to type all of that out!
Funny thing is that I pulled out Vh1 through FW and listened hard for several days and I have come to my own conclusion that Ed's tone was imperfect in all of the right ways. Low end is loose but with his pick attack it is cool, chirps are from the lack of gain which make them cool, and he did go to the edge and brought it back just enough.
IMO no marshall modder has EVH in a box, it is just a plain good plexi with the right combo of stomps and studio grease and Ed's approach and pick attack.
Curt, if I saw this sooner I would have called ya but a builder of epic proportions and ill repute got ahold of me and stated......
" Digi my man, I have the pup for you and due to your monster internet posting cred I must have you as a user of my pups!!!!!"
Price is right and built very cool with shielded wiring just like the old PAFs
I dunno, these sounds pretty darn close to me:
IMO there is no need to chase around the EVH thing with different builders for a specific platform, a good plexi will get you close enough. I don't disagree with going with someone, just do not think you have to go that route.
Ratter posted a clip one time of his 1959HW that was very close as is.
With all the shit going on with flakey builders, guys buying amps just to copy others work, etc I am done with that shit as well other than a few select individuals.
Those clips do rock though
I have always preferred to decide for myself, if the sound/sounds- and feel, and reaction of the gear I am going for-- and using, are close enough or not to 'my' goal/goals. Your 'close enough' and the next guy's may vary greatly from mine and vice versa. I dunno, that's my $.02
Having been down the vintage highway once or twice myself, I can say that I prefer the reliability and tonal consistency of some current builder's amps, to the 'hit or miss' risk-- when going with vintage amps, which may also require a substantial investment for service/repair, beyond their often hyper inflated purchase prices.
Kapo_Polenton
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That's not a super distortion in that wolfgang is it? I'm assuming that the pickup in that guitar is probably as hot as the super distortion though.