new 4x12 cab is severely lacking low-end. normal?

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I have the same cab. It's not lacking lows at all.
 
right side pair is wired wrong. need to make it the same as the left side.
 
Capulin Overdrive":v71i3d1e said:
right side pair is wired wrong. need to make it the same as the left side.
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the positive and negative terminals on the the right side pair are on the same sides as the left side pair because the speakers were flipped to be in an x pattern. would the wiring still need to be corrected?

also, the cab is 8-ohms parallel. would it matter which of the two 8-ohm amp outputs i connect to which of the two cab inputs? (i literally have very little technological knowledge :no: ).
 
JimmyDoomsday":1rz2xe7r said:
in that enlarged photo; bottom speaker - left side is positive. top speaker - right side is positive.
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Right, and you've got what appears to be the silver/ground wire run to the + terminal, and the gold wire running to the -/neg terminal. Swap them, because that makes them out of phase, and lacking bass.

FYI: I just fixed a client's cab yesterday (Marshall) that had this same problem. Swapped two wires, wham, instant bass and stronger mid output.

Now just flip those two wires, would you please already? :doh: :lol: :LOL:
 
lol thanks man. would i need to do this to the right side pair too?
 
the old upside down speaker. throws em every time............. :confused:

must be having some labor issues at avatar to wire the cab wrong.


steve
 
JimmyDoomsday":586bqwzn said:
lol thanks man. would i need to do this to the right side pair too?
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No. Then you'll be out of phase again. Just fix the one side.
 
awesome. thank you so much everyone! i'll tackle this later today.
 
steve_k":3jkn2d45 said:
the old upside down speaker. throws em every time............. :confused:

must be having some labor issues at avatar to wire the cab wrong.


steve
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Eh, it happens even to us old timers. I did it just two weeks back on a 2x12 because I was leaning over the front of the cab looking at it upside down. Played two chords and went "Damnit!", reversed the two offending wires, and woohoo, it's fixed.

It's a simple mistake from going to fast, I can understand why it happened at Avatar, too.

And that's why I use red/black wire, you can easily see if you've screwed the pooch on the wiring. LOL
 
Scumback Speakers":3pre2qg8 said:
steve_k":3pre2qg8 said:
the old upside down speaker. throws em every time............. :confused:

must be having some labor issues at avatar to wire the cab wrong.


steve
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Eh, it happens even to us old timers. I did it just two weeks back on a 2x12 because I was leaning over the front of the cab looking at it upside down. Played two chords and went "Damnit!", reversed the two offending wires, and woohoo, it's fixed.

It's a simple mistake from going to fast, I can understand why it happened at Avatar, too.

And that's why I use red/black wire, you can easily see if you've screwed the pooch on the wiring. LOL
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thats where Quality Control is crucial to a company's reputation, a qualified person, actually listening to the product before its boxed up and shipped out the door. Its possible to have a shorted winding, incorrect part, phase issue as in this case and when a person is spending this kind of cash, and posts on a forum such as this, one that people can search for years to come, the first sentense of my post certainly comes into effect.
 
the operation was a success! thank god for push-on connections - no soldering required lol (though i can imagine i'll have to check these regularly to make sure they don't vibrate themselves right off the terminals).

thanks again to all who helped!
 
You can always take a wire stripper and crimp the connectors while on the terminals (be careful you don't tweak the terminals, of course!).

I usually crimp the connectors first, then hold the speaker fiber board firmly with one hand, then slide the connectors on so they have a tight fit when done.

Either way works. Glad to hear you got your wiring sorted and the bigger response back. :thumbsup:
 
JimmyDoomsday":1sfbdbkd said:
the operation was a success! thank god for push-on connections - no soldering required lol (though i can imagine i'll have to check these regularly to make sure they don't vibrate themselves right off the terminals).

thanks again to all who helped!
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That will be $140 dollars plus tax. :D
 
Scumback Speakers":15mqwnnc said:
You can always take a wire stripper and crimp the connectors while on the terminals (be careful you don't tweak the terminals, of course!).

I usually crimp the connectors first, then hold the speaker fiber board firmly with one hand, then slide the connectors on so they have a tight fit when done.

Either way works. Glad to hear you got your wiring sorted and the bigger response back. :thumbsup:
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I gently crimp the back portion of the female connector before I slide it over the male end. the open end still still slides on, takes a bit more to slide it on but once its on, it won't vibrate loose.
 
Glad to see your problem was resolved, I had no idea how to help. I learned something. :thumbsup:
 
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