New "country" haters?

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Heritage Softail":3ofgumme said:
As compared to death metal where you can't even hear or understand the Cookie Monster vocals .

I like the better songwriting. Kneel to satan, he will crush your soul, death embraces your cold dead body.

Now those a lyrics.

Ha!

I have noticed lots of liberals hate on new country for it having conservative leanings. Aside of the songs about getting drunk and screwing some chic, which all music types have loads of.

Or grunge, looking suicidal and staring at your shoes, screeching out how life sucks.

:lol: :LOL:

And what is wrong with Red Solo Cup for a party song? I'm Going Straight to Hell is another drunk ass party song.


1st off...you are exactly correct about other genres' lyrics/ vocals. Cookie monster yelling is WAY less tolerable to me than country. Hell I'm not eve sure half the time WHAT the lyrics are. I guess some people just don't pay attention to them?

Regard Red Solo Cup....there's nothing "wrong" with it....plenty of people like it (although that doesn't mean much to me!)...it's just not MY kind of party song. :no: It's just an example of country generic cookie cutter style. Again...not there's anything wrong with it!
 
Heritage Softail":2o6s7747 said:
As compared to death metal where you can't even hear or understand the Cookie Monster vocals .

I like the better songwriting. Kneel to satan, he will crush your soul, death embraces your cold dead body.

Now those a lyrics.

Ha!

I have noticed lots of liberals hate on new country for it having conservative leanings. Aside of the songs about getting drunk and screwing some chic, which all music types have loads of.

Or grunge, looking suicidal and staring at your shoes, screeching out how life sucks.

:lol: :LOL:

And what is wrong with Red Solo Cup for a party song? I'm Going Straight to Hell is another drunk ass party song.

I don't find country music leaning to the right politically. Some artists lean that way, but that's their right to do so.
 
With regards to death metal over new country, I'll take grating sincerity over palatable opportunism any day of the week.
 
rupe":1o9ci30w said:
The modern country scene is today's version of what hair metal was in the 80's...it's where the party is. Ever wondered what happened to all of the fun, groupies, craziness, etc that seemed to disappear in the early 90's? It came back as modern country. And just like 80's metal, there are a few good acts and a bunch of lame ones. As was mentioned, some of the guitar work is stellar.

Having been raised on classic rock and metal, I started gigging in the 80's and as a performer have done everything from the music I just mentioned, to thrash metal, to classic punk, to blues, to funk, to R&B. Fast forward to last summer when an old friend and fixture on the local rock scene asked me if I'd be interested in forming a cover band doing a mix of rock and modern country. Initially it was "no way!" but my blues rock band was having trouble keeping a steady lineup together and all the club owners kept telling me they wanted modern country...and I knew he was in a position where he needed the income so I eventually caved and agreed to give it a shot.
I had never really listened to it (and still don't) but figured "how hard could it be?"...a lot harder than I anticipated. A lot of it is simple hard rock/metal with somebody singing about pickup trucks, keg parties in the woods, or catfish dinners in a redneck drawl, but a lot of it is very challenging with oddball changes, non-repeating riffs, and difficult vocal harmonies. The level of musicianship is very high in general. I absolutely hate the hip-hop/country stuff that's popping up but we don't do any of that.

I've been called a "sell-out" by friends, but what have I sold out? I'm no longer in the game of trying to "make it" as a musician...that ship sailed a long time ago. I now play for fun, period. Playing live for me is fun. Playing live in front of packed houses who know all the songs and words and sing them back to you like it's a rock concert is even more fun...the energy in the room is off the charts every time and everywhere we play. Having to turn down gigs because of demand is a great problem to have. I still get to use some awesome guitar tones (twang? what's that? ;) ) and play a lot of ripping solos. I'll take that over doing Moore/Hendrix/Trower/Clapton/ZZ/SRV covers to a half full room of bikers and drunks watching you with their arms crossed or playing pool and bitching because we're too loud for them carry on a conversation.

Bottom line is that if you want to recapture some of the good time party atmosphere of the 80's (especially those of you who missed it and wish you could have been there), check out the modern country scene. I'm not a fan of the music myself (it's more fun to play than it is to listen to for me), but the overall scene in general offers a much better time than pretentious blues and jazz heads, or angry metal dudes, or shoe-gazing chugga chugga djent stuff, or just about any other music scene I can think of. I don't listen to it my spare time, but I get it.

*Edited for grammar
......He's got it right..Ive had the good fortune to sit down /or hang out backstage with Paisley,and some of the other hot players from that genre..I can tell you firsthand these guys are the real deal.Ive heard and seen some friggin insane chops from Urban,Hiland, Brent Mason and Brad.Ive also seen them all play serious metal riffage too.These guys are way beyond 32nd note scale runs and string skipping arpeggios.They do all that with nary any heavy overdrive or piles of distortion to cover up poor technique.No egos,theyre all great to talk to and most of them like the heavy metal stuff too..I do agree with the posts about florida g.line,ect..Its way more pop than authentic country..Back in the 90s when flannel shirts grunge,depression lyrics,cookie monster grunts and sludge chords took over,I felt( almost) like I was forced to look for another style to foster my session work.Thats when I discovered those guys..I realized my paul gilbert arperggios and vinnie moore runs wasnt the only thing smokin hot out there.(technique wise).Just last week I was backstage at a Jake Owens show and handed my custom shop charvel to his guitarist for a testdrive.He was whippin out vanhalen licks,malmsteen,and insane country licks.And his amp tone was amazing.Taylor swift,Carrie Underwood,Florida g.line,ect-I can take or leave that stuff too.Anyways,yes some of the new country is a joke,but..some of it is just mindblowing too.I'll go with the mindblowing stuff.lol
 
timeroo":1izfym4f said:
I like to think that I can find the good in near any music but pop "country" to me is just useless drivel being made for masses of complete idiots. Where did country specifically go wrong? When did Willie, Hank, Waylon, George, Charlie, Johnny and others turn into useless shit like Luke Bryan, Florida Georgia line, Big and Rich and all the other crap that apparently makes pop "country" the highest selling genre in North America.


Late 1980s I guess. That was when the boy bands started to come out.


I cannot stand anything that's "pop". Pop rock, pop country, pop rap, whatever it is. Pop is "Popular Music" manufactured specifically to create profit, which is different to earning a crust while opening your soul with the world.
I admit I enjoy some older 'pop' music, but even the 1960s sugar-coated overly censored stuff, really starts to grate on my ears over time.


By the way I love the outlaw country stuff of the Highwaymen, Merle Haggard etc. I think of Chris Rea in that vain in a way too- he's bluesy but he has that outlaw country edge.

Oh by the way, he was big in the late 1980s too. Honestly not many could escape making a music clip that didn't look cheesy around then, no matter how good the song was...

 
Heritage Softail":13e0hkro said:
New country is the classic rock.

Cookie Monster sludge riffing does not appeal to anything but a sausage fest. Yeah, it is fun to hammer out some riffs and sound like a glorified bass player, but then what?

Rock is still out there. But new country with rock guitar and danceable bass riffs is where the white women went. And the money, since money follows white girls.

Music is about sex to most normal people. The. You have forum people that can obsess about gear or Hendrix or who the fuck ever.

The party is in new country rock. I hate the tractor rap, and generally hate the douche types singing some of the teen girl oriented country.

But the same kind of guy sang in spandex and makeup in the 80's. And back then, just like now, it was about big tits in tube tops and short shorts on for a short time.

In the words of Bill Murray.... Lighten up Francis....

:thumbsup:

Amen, Brother!
 
I'll turn my axe's into firewood before I'd do anything country, rap, etc
 
steve2112":27fxgjxs said:
FUZZboat":27fxgjxs said:
I'll turn my axe's into firewood before I'd do anything country, rap, etc


Because you can't play it.

wow, thats the best you can do :lol: :LOL:

and for the record I can't rap either steve - but your so cool you can probably do both, right ?
 
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