New hi gain tube amp head (Egnater, Laney...)

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btw, I have the D-Moll. It is really KILLER. I'm just a channel whore, which is why I wanna switch.
 
If you can go used and can find someone to ship, try a vht deliverance. Closest to an slo that I've heard, and under 1k used.
 
What about a Einstein? Used could be pretty cheap in Europe. I had one and the high gain stuff killed it and had an original tone to me. PRS Archon or what ever its called?
 
UberschallEL34":2bt4eupo said:
just save for the DMoll - if you're going to be gigging a lot, there is a negligible difference from $1000 - $2000 when it comes to reliability and the tone of the DMoll will pummel almost any amp around.
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This ^^^^^^ or a Lil' Fokker :thumbsup: !
 
ArlingtonBeech":2339e5fo said:
I'm really sorry 5150s are great amps but I don't really like them. Don't like the mids, and too many metal players use them (probably for good reasons) but I'm looking for something more original.
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Try a 5153 50 watt if you can. I can relate to not liking the generic sound of the 5150 ( the best budget amp IMO though). The 5153 is a different animal and a killer one. Im not sure its the right amp for you but if you can try one I would recommend at least kicking the tires.
 
I'm sure the D-Moll is a great amp and it's probably my holy grail, but due to my average guitar level and playing only additionnal rhythm stuff with my band, I don't think it's a wise decision for me to put 2000$ in an amp!
 
ArlingtonBeech":12hc99g7 said:
tech21man":12hc99g7 said:
It'd be great if you could try some of these amps. Don't they come up locally in france, studios, guitar shops etc?
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That's the problem. Except a trip to Paris, shops here in France have less and less tube amps to test. They have modeling amps, bugera, marshall...
Speaking of Marshall, can a JVM250H do tight hi gain metal without being too thin in the lows?
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I had the 50 watter, it can but always felt strained and compressed a bit to me. It's a good amp and there are a lot of mods to take it to whichever direction you like (more modern, more vintage etc).

But in the end of the day you know if you like the gain voicing and feature set and it was not for me.

I pick heavily and use a boost to get that solid state attack on top of a crunch channel ready to go off and I really like the uncompressed nature of some amps while doing that because it allows you to shape the sound with your muting...the jvm "felt" like I was playing midi notes, or a recording...it's not its fault, many high dollar amps also have it (some diezels for example) but anyway it boils down to taste (my band mate loves types of gain like this...soft attack on the guitar, a buttload wall of sound of the amp, no "dynamics" etc...) I just don't like it.
 
I came in here with VHT Deliverance or CL100 in mind.

Even the suggested Orange would be good but now seeing where you live. Shipping would probably be almost as much as the amp itself so if you can easily get a Diezel in your area it may be worth saving the extra $$
 
new amps in my interest list which is rare in France : Carvin V3 and V3m
 
I'd look into a used DSL for what you're describing myself.
 
ArlingtonBeech":2rfmitfm said:
UberschallEL34":2rfmitfm said:
there is a negligible difference from $1000 - $2000 when it comes to reliability and the tone of the DMoll will pummel almost any amp around.
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Unfortunately there is a huge difference for my banker!
I really like to buy a D-Moll, but it wouldn't be wise for the few rhythm parts I play with my band
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When Ola England did a demo of like 6 or 7 high gain amps. I thought the JVM he tested was second only to the dmoll. That included the new Randalls 5153 etc. Of course Ola could make anything sound great bu t as a side by side comparison the Marshall sounded great.
 
for now it seems my list is : Laney Ironheart 60, Marshall JVM205 and Carvin V3
 
What would the 120W will give me more over the 60W?
It will mainly use it for miked gigs, rehearsals or at home.
As there is a separate clean channel, I don't think there is a need of a lot of headroom.
It seems the 60W et 120W share the exact same transformers, so maybe there is no depth issue with the 60W
It seems the Watt knob is more a master volume than a real power attenuation.
Maybe it would be more useful ti be able to sometimes crank the power amp to add power tubes distorsion, than having 60 extra watts I will never use?
I don't know.
 
ArlingtonBeech":82lc0oh2 said:
What would the 120W will give me more over the 60W?
It will mainly use it for miked gigs, rehearsals or at home.
As there is a separate clean channel, I don't think there is a need of a lot of headroom.
It seems the 60W et 120W share the exact same transformers, so maybe there is no depth issue with the 60W
It seems the Watt knob is more a master volume than a real power attenuation.
Maybe it would be more useful ti be able to sometimes crank the power amp to add power tubes distorsion, than having 60 extra watts I will never use?
I don't know.
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Unless you know with certainty that they use the exact same output transformers, I don't know, the 60 seems to have a much smaller one.
 
More wattage means a beefier power supply and heavier transformers, which translate to more bottom end and faster transient response, especially for hard rock/metal. If you were a blues guy or maybe up to AC/DC levels of gain I don't think it matters much.
 
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