New Meshuggah anyone?

[killertone]

Remember when Meshuggah used to play chords? Man, I have such a hard time listening to anything from the last 3 or 4 albums when albums like None and DEI are still out there. Those albums set the bar so high. Catchy, dynamic, technical...the new stuff is pretty one dimensional. I am sure I am alone in this as everyone still loses their minds when they each new hear Meshuggah album. They are obviously still great players.

 

[fearhk213]

Remember when Meshuggah used to play chords? Man, I have such a hard time listening to anything from the last 3 or 4 albums when albums like None and DEI are still out there. Those albums set the bar so high. Catchy, dynamic, technical...the new stuff is pretty one dimensional. I am sure I am alone in this as everyone still loses their minds when they each new hear Meshuggah album. They are obviously still great players.

Nah man, you're not the only one. They lost me after Chaosphere, though Obzen has some killer tracks. This new track is a bit one dimensional, but I'm digging the groove. It's certainly better than the first track they put out from the new one. I found that one straight up boring.

 

[jasonmwnf]

LOVE both tracks so far! Very organic sounding. The groove is HUGE!! \m/

 

[Spaceboy]

Remember when Meshuggah used to play chords? Man, I have such a hard time listening to anything from the last 3 or 4 albums when albums like None and DEI are still out there. Those albums set the bar so high. Catchy, dynamic, technical...the new stuff is pretty one dimensional. I am sure I am alone in this as everyone still loses their minds when they each new hear Meshuggah album. They are obviously still great players.

They made a decision to abandon those typical methods of writing when going to 8-string guitars. Chords sound like crud with their tone.

This song is awesome... but the other leak before that was unimpressive, although still listenable.

 

[Spaceboy]

Also... read somewhere online that the guitars/bass was all Cubase VST instead of Axe FX, or even their new signature amplifiers from DAR.

 

[_actual time_]

Remember when Meshuggah used to play chords?

i love the older stuff, DEI and None, but i also love the last 3-4 records too. Catch 33 was a bit free-form in terms of composition, but Nothing and Obzen rule for me. it is single-note riffing, but they do the badass-riff-over-4:4-beat thing better than anybody.

Obzen had a killer groove for the outro in half of all the songs. the new tunes sound like that sorta groove applied to whole tunes. i'm curious if the whole record is like that, or if there's a scorcher or two in there also. like the Battery/Blackened style tune that opened Obzen.

and they were badass live, on the Nothing tour. got my tix to see them this spring....

 

[TIBrent]

Ya'll are all crazy haha...Meshuggah have not lost a single step since D.E.I. (I've been listening to these cats since 94') & I can tell you, everything they have done since has been a progression & while D.E.I. is still one of my two favorite Meshuggah albums, I am LOVING this new stuff. I really love the groove elements they are bringing to the new stuff. With everyone out there rocking an 8 string now, & basically biting off of what Meshuggah pioneered, they are still managing to do something that doesn't sound like everyone else, even with everyone else trying to sound like them (even if they don't want to admit it, silly djent kids).
-Brent

 

[Atropos_Project]

Sounds pretty accessible, by their standards. I dug 'Break those Bones' more than this personally.

I don't mind that they're doing mostly single string stuff, it gives the music a bit of space. And as stated by _actual time_, they're absurdly tight live. I saw them on the same tour, even though Nothing is probably my least favorite disc by them.

 

[TIBrent]

Fredrik's solo on this song is the F'ing steez too!
-Brent

 

[fearhk213]

Sounds pretty accessible, by their standards. I dug 'Break those Bones' more than this personally.

I don't mind that they're doing mostly single string stuff, it gives the music a bit of space. And as stated by _actual time_, they're absurdly tight live. I saw them on the same tour, even though Nothing is probably my least favorite disc by them.

I saw them with Slayer and Sick of it on their Chaosphere tour...Meshuggah is still the tightest band I've ever seen live. They opened with Future Breed Machine and set the tone for the remainder of the beating they unleashed on the crowd .

 

[Spaceboy]

Meshuggah and SOIA? Jeez!

 

[tripstan]

I dig it! 20 yrs later they are still progressing their sound. Wish I could say the same for LOG, one of my other fav-o metal bands. Resolution wasn't a resoultion it was more like left-overs. I'm not bashing it is a good album but. . . . This is way Meshuggah = kings of prog metal. They say f*ck the net lets flip this sh*t! I'm glad they are doing something different. Stray form the pack

 

[killertone]

Remember when Meshuggah used to play chords? Man, I have such a hard time listening to anything from the last 3 or 4 albums when albums like None and DEI are still out there. Those albums set the bar so high. Catchy, dynamic, technical...the new stuff is pretty one dimensional. I am sure I am alone in this as everyone still loses their minds when they each new hear Meshuggah album. They are obviously still great players.

They made a decision to abandon those typical methods of writing when going to 8-string guitars. Chords sound like crud with their tone.

This song is awesome... but the other leak before that was unimpressive, although still listenable.

You can still play chords on an 8 string. I have done it quite a few times. I assure you it is possible.

Over the last few years I have tried and tried and tried again to listen to the newer stuff. You guys are right, they do the odd meter riff against 4/4 like nobody. But that is all they do these days. The first track leaked from their management for this album was so repetitive that if you heard the first 30 seconds of the tune then you heard the whole thing.

I saw Meshuggah in '98 at Coney Island High in NYC with Dillinger Escape Plan and Candiria. Still probably the best metal show I have ever seen in my life. I started listening to them in '94 right when None came out and it was soooooooo ahead of its time. Still is, IMO. Then DEI came out and it was a true progression. Chaosphere was less of a progression but still killer. Then they changed lots of things. 8 string guitars, programmed drums, etc. I couldn't go for it.

There is no doubt these guys are great players and still possess shitloads of talent. I am just not into any of the djent stuff at all, and they seem to not only have led that movement but are actually following themselves.

I knew I would among the very few who thought the old stuff was better.

 

[Spaceboy]

Remember when Meshuggah used to play chords? Man, I have such a hard time listening to anything from the last 3 or 4 albums when albums like None and DEI are still out there. Those albums set the bar so high. Catchy, dynamic, technical...the new stuff is pretty one dimensional. I am sure I am alone in this as everyone still loses their minds when they each new hear Meshuggah album. They are obviously still great players.

They made a decision to abandon those typical methods of writing when going to 8-string guitars. Chords sound like crud with their tone.

This song is awesome... but the other leak before that was unimpressive, although still listenable.

You can still play chords on an 8 string. I have done it quite a few times. I assure you it is possible.

Yes, but it doesn't sound clear or tight with the current Meshuggah tone. I primarily play 7/8-string guitars.

They are doing what feels right to them... and it's working, because every release gains them more popularity, and they are quickly becoming one of the most memorable and influential bands in modern extreme metal.

 

[killertone]

Remember when Meshuggah used to play chords? Man, I have such a hard time listening to anything from the last 3 or 4 albums when albums like None and DEI are still out there. Those albums set the bar so high. Catchy, dynamic, technical...the new stuff is pretty one dimensional. I am sure I am alone in this as everyone still loses their minds when they each new hear Meshuggah album. They are obviously still great players.

They made a decision to abandon those typical methods of writing when going to 8-string guitars. Chords sound like crud with their tone.

This song is awesome... but the other leak before that was unimpressive, although still listenable.

You can still play chords on an 8 string. I have done it quite a few times. I assure you it is possible.

Yes, but it doesn't sound clear or tight with the current Meshuggah tone. I primarily play 7/8-string guitars.

They are doing what feels right to them... and it's working, because every release gains them more popularity, and they are quickly becoming one of the most memorable and influential bands in modern extreme metal.

Popularity = better ?

McDonalds sells more hamburgers than anyone. I would never say they're the best hamburgers though.

 

[Spaceboy]

thats subjective and pointless to even talk about

im only saying that the change in writing was necessary to progress into the territory they wanted

 

[_actual time_]

(even if they don't want to admit it, silly djent kids).

Fredrik's solo on this song is the F'ing steez too!

yeah--who knew he knew pentatonics!

for me, it's all about the riffs. i want a riff that makes me at the same time bang my head and lose count of the beat. i love Gods of Rapture, i love Soul Burn. i didn't like Chaosphere at all, it and Catch 33 the writing felt sorta loose or free-form--cool but not as riffy as i like.

but Obzen really floored me, full of awesome riffs, like the fast opener tune and the 9 min last one. i see some of that in these two new tunes, even though they are droning on one or two riffs for the whole song. maybe that means this record won't have as much staying power with me as Obzen did/still does. but i'm really digging the groove so far.

 

[TIBrent]

i didn't like Chaosphere at all, it and Catch 33 the writing felt sorta loose or free-form

Man that is some tight-ass free form brutha
-Brent

 

[_actual time_]

i didn't like Chaosphere at all, it and Catch 33 the writing felt sorta loose or free-form

Man that is some tight-ass free form brutha
-Brent

i mean in the songwriting, the composition, not the playing. they are super-tight in everything they play. but Catch 33, near as i can remember, had that first riff that went for like 7 min, then a bunch of shorter sections? sort of a jumble of different sections.

i'm down with free-form composition--i think Frederik's solo record, that one 45-min track that's all over the place, is awesome. but the Catch 33 composition felt a little too random to me, for a Meshuggah record.

 

[benduncan]

my favorites are the first two but i lost interest with chaosphere and the albums after. I really liked combustion from obzen. so far I really like what i hear from koloss, hopefully the rest is as good