New Splawn Pro Stock B+ - awesome but LOUD!!

[Junk Yard Dog]

This was my dream amp since 2003. Finally arrived yesterday and I love it but I think it may be too loud for my needs. I'm sad :-(.

The Tones are exactly what I wanted. I live in a large loft and I could not get it to 9oclock. I used it in half power and the Loop Volume, and that helps, does seems to take away some punch, but still sounds good.

I'm struggling, but will spend more time with it. I also have not used it with my band yet, so that will make a difference. It somehow seems way louder than my 50w JCM800.

Any suggestions??

 

[suhrimmetal]

Pull 2 tubes to make it 50watt.... or attenuator. Those amps are and will always be loud. I don't mind loud... I just could never warm to their mid structure and the feel and sound of it. My guitar player still plays one.

 

[Junk Yard Dog]

Thanks! First let me say, I knew it would be loud ans that's cool. I bought it after talking to Scott and he thought is be fine with the master, half power and loop volume. Plus, I thought it was more of an 80/40w amp since it was a drop B+.

I'm not so good with electronics, but I'd consider pulling 2 tubes, but don't know how that works and if I have to change my impededence, etc.

Thanks!

 

[suhrimmetal]

Thanks! First let me say, I knew it would be loud ans that's cool. I bought it after talking to Scott and he thought is be fine with the master, half power and loop volume. Plus, I thought it was more of an 80/40w amp since it was a drop B+.

I'm not so good with electronics, but I'd consider pulling 2 tubes, but don't know how that works and if I have to change my impededence, etc.

Thanks!

Yeah, just pull the outer 2 tubes I believe... and then change impedence of OT.... So if you're cab is 8ohms at 100watts, and you pull 2 tubes, change impedence to 4ohms. You'll lose a little headroom of the amp and not a whole lot of volume but there will be a difference. If you keep this setup for some time... be sure to rebias.

 

[Junk Yard Dog]

Thanks! First let me say, I knew it would be loud ans that's cool. I bought it after talking to Scott and he thought is be fine with the master, half power and loop volume. Plus, I thought it was more of an 80/40w amp since it was a drop B+.

I'm not so good with electronics, but I'd consider pulling 2 tubes, but don't know how that works and if I have to change my impededence, etc.

Thanks!

Yeah, just pull the outer 2 tubes I believe... and then change impedence of OT.... So if you're cab is 8ohms at 100watts, and you pull 2 tubes, change impedence to 4ohms. You'll lose a little headroom of the amp and not a whole lot of volume but there will be a difference. If you keep this setup for some time... be sure to rebias.

Cabs are 8 ohm. I'm running the amp at half power so I'm running it at 4ohm already.

Maybe I need to look at the Streetrod or CompetiTion.

Again, I need to try it out at band jam first!

 

[suhrimmetal]

Thanks! First let me say, I knew it would be loud ans that's cool. I bought it after talking to Scott and he thought is be fine with the master, half power and loop volume. Plus, I thought it was more of an 80/40w amp since it was a drop B+.

I'm not so good with electronics, but I'd consider pulling 2 tubes, but don't know how that works and if I have to change my impededence, etc.

Thanks!

Yeah, just pull the outer 2 tubes I believe... and then change impedence of OT.... So if you're cab is 8ohms at 100watts, and you pull 2 tubes, change impedence to 4ohms. You'll lose a little headroom of the amp and not a whole lot of volume but there will be a difference. If you keep this setup for some time... be sure to rebias.

Cabs are 8 ohm. I'm running the amp at half power so I'm running it at 4ohm already.

Maybe I need to look at the Streetrod or CompetiTion.

Again, I need to try it out at band jam first!

Yeah, if you're running at 1/2 power than you're already there. This amp will cut like a knife in a band setting...believe me. A Rivera Rockcrusher attenuator would really help you out and is a GREAT unit... if you plan on keeping your QR I would look into one. Even in a band setting (we gig weekly) I find my guitar players older QR too loud and we are all mic'd FOH so stage volume isn't crazy... it's still louder than everything on stage it seems and just cuts thru the mix....no way to really tame it. Ive heard the B+ models are better and a little softer overall so maybe it will be perfect in a band setting. Good luck bro

 

[messenger]

I don't think 9 o'clock on any tube amp especially a 50w or 100w is apartment friendly. That's generally just about band levels in my experience.

 

[crwnedblasphemy]

Don't mean to come off like a prick, but a little user error. U don't need to pull any tubes. Just flip it in 1/2 power. Turn the loop volume to below 9:00. And master to your 9:00. Shouldn't be that loud. I got great tones at whisper volumes just running a strymon in the loop. Instead of an attenuation, run an effects unit through it that has an input and outputcontrol. Bingo. The newer quickrods can sound awesome at low volumes. U shouldn't be having this problem I don't think.

 

[Junk Yard Dog]

I agree and no offense taken. My loft is 1200 sf all concrete floors, 24 ft ceilings, and I'm playing thru a semi open back cab with loud efficient speakers. I didn't have much time to balance it out.

It'll be different in a band/live setting, but I still can't imagine going past 9:30oclock in the venues I play.

I wanna keep it. Any suggestions on settings are appreciated.

I may also look at the Rock Crusher. I'm not an fx guy, but I have an EQ I can throw in the loop, but figure the loop volume should do what that does.

 

[crwnedblasphemy]

The new ones volume taper is way better than the older ones....older ones go from nothing to blow the doors down. Haha.

U can throw anything in the loop and if ya don't want to use it, just bypass the effect. Whether it be eq, reverb, or delay. U can get really really good low volumes with the newer splawns that way.

 

[tech21man]

If half power switch goes to triode instead of pentode then it's not the same with pulling two tubes. Do you change the output impedance when you flip the half power switch? Probably not. Ask scott splawn if you can go half power AND pull two power tubes. Or even use EL84 adapters or 6V6 etc. It still won't be the same with a smaller amp (large transformers for one).

You can always fuck around with the pots to get another range.

 

[crwnedblasphemy]

Yep....U need to change the impedance, per instructions in 1/2 power.

 

[Junk Yard Dog]

I'm gonna play around with it some more. Got some
Amazing tones outta the gate last night. I can tell it may take some time to play with the knobs to coax different tones in my head, but overall it was pretty plug and play.

 

[Chris6870]

I play mine at TV volume at times and it still sounds killer using the loop volume. Turn the master up to 12 and the boost level up too and adjust the loop volume. Your not going to find 100 watt amp that sounds better at mouse fart volume levels than the Quick Rod.

 

[Salos]

I don't think 9 o'clock on any tube amp especially a 50w or 100w is apartment friendly. That's generally just about band levels in my experience.

I've found this too.... I rarely put my JCM800's MV above 3 or 4 at most live or at rehearsal.

 

[Junk Yard Dog]

I play mine at TV volume at times and it still sounds killer using the loop volume. Turn the master up to 12 and the boost level up too and adjust the loop volume. Your not going to find 100 watt amp that sounds better at mouse fart volume levels than the Quick Rod.

Ok, I'll try this. Master up at noon. When you say "boost level up too" what do you mean exactly? The Solo Boost level up at 12/noon?

What do you adjust your Loop Volume to when you do those two things above?

Thx!!

 

[suhrimmetal]

I play mine at TV volume at times and it still sounds killer using the loop volume. Turn the master up to 12 and the boost level up too and adjust the loop volume. Your not going to find 100 watt amp that sounds better at mouse fart volume levels than the Quick Rod.

Ok, I'll try this. Master up at noon. When you say "boost level up too" what do you mean exactly? The Solo Boost level up at 12/noon?

What do you adjust your Loop Volume to when you do those two things above?

Thx!!

Just use your loop return volume as your master volume.. either jumper the loop or throw a pedal in there(doesn't have to be on). Open up return volume to the point where its at bedroom volume... and you can always go UP from there..lol.

 

[Junk Yard Dog]

Just use your loop return volume as your master volume.. either jumper the loop or throw a pedal in there(doesn't have to be on). Open up return volume to the point where its at bedroom volume... and you can always go UP from there..lol.

Ah, ok. If I jumper the loop or throw in a pedal, I presume I need to engage the Loop Bypass Switch? That's the only time the Loop Volume knob works, right?

Sorry for the dumb questions. Playing 30 years and still done know this kind of stuff. Thanks!!

 

[zewango]

I dont think you even need anything in the loop. Just turn it on.

 

[suhrimmetal]

I dont think you even need anything in the loop. Just turn it on.

Yeah, not sure with newer model Splawns... but if you engage loop that should do the trick.. no jumper or pedal needed. Just engage loop, Master at noon or so... make sure return level is down and slowly ride it up til you find your liking.