New Stryper.......what's making the tone?

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They really sounded excellent in Pitts.2 yrs.ago.Michael hit 90% of the high stuff from back in the day..The new album definitely has a "To hell with the devil" vibe.I saw that tour.I was in the front row on that night and darn near got nailed with a Bible right between the eyes, but made the catch! Lol...I counted 40 boogie 4x12 s on stage that night..although maybe some were dummie cabs...
 
Little B":27ffy27h said:
They always seem to come thru with good tones.. my best friend was on the kit for Michael when he was doing his solo stuff.I was backstage at the creation east festival with them.The other guitar player was Angelicas' Dennis Cameron.killer player in his own right..anyways it was all boogies then...I've heard all the songs off the new"No More Hell To Pay"... reminds me of t.h.w.t.d. era..good stuff!

I know Dennis pretty well, didn't know he played with Michael Sweet though! Have to talk to him about it :rock:
 
nevusofota":3eufw8yx said:
My band opened for them twice in the past 2 years. They used Carvin XB100's both times. It's funny because they hid them both times and had Line 6 dummy heads out front.
I snapped this pic after hanging backstage after our set. Strypers tone was excellent that night. Gave me GAS pains for an XB100 for months!



On another note......these were the coolest bunch of guys we have ever had the pleasure of playing with, touring or local. I was standing just outside the back door of the club after getting off the phone with the wife when Oz came up and started chatting with me about random shit. Didn't even recognize him at first. Total cool dude. During our sound check, Robert stood at the foot of the stage rocking out for the duration :rock: . These cats are true rock music/scene fans and continue to enjoy what they do greatly. That's tough to do considering the shit poor state that the music industry is currently in :no: . Not only that, but this band has immense talent. Hard to find musicians with such talent remain so humble.
 
I can't imagine them using a different tone. Just use the EQ methods he shows in that video.
 
tfridgen":2yai8d98 said:
Little B":2yai8d98 said:
They always seem to come thru with good tones.. my best friend was on the kit for Michael when he was doing his solo stuff.I was backstage at the creation east festival with them.The other guitar player was Angelicas' Dennis Cameron.killer player in his own right..anyways it was all boogies then...I've heard all the songs off the new"No More Hell To Pay"... reminds me of t.h.w.t.d. era..good stuff!

I know Dennis pretty well, didn't know he played with Michael Sweet though! Have to talk to him about it :rock:
Dennis played with Michael up until he started having troubles with borders/ passports from CAnada to US and that was about it..( michael told me that in person).Michael also had Joey Taffola on guitar.. I caught a few shows of that tour too..Michael and Dennis also did an unplugged show in Pitts once.. Around that time Angelica had some really kickin songs!..wish I could've seen that band but I don't think they left Canada that much.
 
Pretty impressive you guys.. and darn close for guess work... :) Rupe invited me to chime in if I wanted.. guess you can call me the "source" he referred to.. :D .. figured I'd lend some credence to the "tone" search, yet not reveal it all.. which I'm sure you understand... ;)

.. most of you pretty much hit everything on the head.. Oz does use his HD500 into whatever backline we get, in most cases Mesa Dual or Triple recs.. It makes it real convenient when traveling and keeps his tone mighty consistent.. Michael has always stayed old school though.. pedals.. an organic/alive tone that to me, is very difficult to beat or match.. we've attempted many times and ultimately, always came back to his pedal rig..

.. so the Orange amp.. a trial amp used maybe for a song or two on the last two albums.. great amp, great old school tube tone but ultimately not really Stryper.. Mesa was, is and probably always will be their sound, especially for recording.. Mark IIc specifically..

..ahhhh.. the Furman.. it set them apart, especially running it pre, not post.. a pretty cool story Michael has disclosed a few times from as far back as '88? '89?.. remember an article from a guitar magazine back then.. and then again here and there over the years.. has been more open with the info.

Something you guys might dig, Michael and I are working with ISP Technologies, the engineer/designer of the original "Hush" from back in the day, to design a Michael Sweet pedal.. one that emulates his tone or better yet, the "Stryper" tone.. the dude is a genius so the outcome should be pretty darn cool.. I'll sure be getting one.. :D

.. the Carvin's.. an interesting story.. I'm sure most of you can figure it out... If not, ask yourselves this, do the words 'Stryper' and 'Line 6' go together, as far as tone goes? ;)

- Flash
 
youthinkyourstryped":mg9c2585 said:
Pretty impressive you guys.. and darn close for guess work... :) Rupe invited me to chime in if I wanted.. guess you can call me the "source" he referred to.. :D .. figured I'd lend some credence to the "tone" search, yet not reveal it all.. which I'm sure you understand... ;)

.. most of you pretty much hit everything on the head.. Oz does use his HD500 into whatever backline we get, in most cases Mesa Dual or Triple recs.. It makes it real convenient when traveling and keeps his tone mighty consistent.. Michael has always stayed old school though.. pedals.. an organic/alive tone that to me, is very difficult to beat or match.. we've attempted many times and ultimately, always came back to his pedal rig..

.. so the Orange amp.. a trial amp used maybe for a song or two on the last two albums.. great amp, great old school tube tone but ultimately not really Stryper.. Mesa was, is and probably always will be their sound, especially for recording.. Mark IIc specifically..

..ahhhh.. the Furman.. it set them apart, especially running it pre, not post.. a pretty cool story Michael has disclosed a few times from as far back as '88? '89?.. remember an article from a guitar magazine back then.. and then again here and there over the years.. has been more open with the info.

Something you guys might dig, Michael and I are working with ISP Technologies, the engineer/designer of the original "Hush" from back in the day, to design a Michael Sweet pedal.. one that emulates his tone or better yet, the "Stryper" tone.. the dude is a genius so the outcome should be pretty darn cool.. I'll sure be getting one.. :D

.. the Carvin's.. an interesting story.. I'm sure most of you can figure it out... If not, ask yourselves this, do the words 'Stryper' and 'Line 6' go together, as far as tone goes? ;)

- Flash

Hello thats great info thanks for chiming in.
when you refer to MKIIC do you know or could you possibly find out for definite is the amp that was used in the past actually an MKIIC or is it a MKIIC+ I would LOVE to know for certain as they are quite different sounding amps to each other.
I have heard it mentioned before that the MKIIC was used and I have often wondered if it was just a loose reference to the MKIIC or if it was a precise comment and it was an actual MKIIC that was used as opposed to the MKIIC+ , that would be a VERY interesting piece of info
 
H3000":29dwn9lp said:
youthinkyourstryped":29dwn9lp said:
Pretty impressive you guys.. and darn close for guess work... :) Rupe invited me to chime in if I wanted.. guess you can call me the "source" he referred to.. :D .. figured I'd lend some credence to the "tone" search, yet not reveal it all.. which I'm sure you understand... ;)

.. most of you pretty much hit everything on the head.. Oz does use his HD500 into whatever backline we get, in most cases Mesa Dual or Triple recs.. It makes it real convenient when traveling and keeps his tone mighty consistent.. Michael has always stayed old school though.. pedals.. an organic/alive tone that to me, is very difficult to beat or match.. we've attempted many times and ultimately, always came back to his pedal rig..

.. so the Orange amp.. a trial amp used maybe for a song or two on the last two albums.. great amp, great old school tube tone but ultimately not really Stryper.. Mesa was, is and probably always will be their sound, especially for recording.. Mark IIc specifically..

..ahhhh.. the Furman.. it set them apart, especially running it pre, not post.. a pretty cool story Michael has disclosed a few times from as far back as '88? '89?.. remember an article from a guitar magazine back then.. and then again here and there over the years.. has been more open with the info.

Something you guys might dig, Michael and I are working with ISP Technologies, the engineer/designer of the original "Hush" from back in the day, to design a Michael Sweet pedal.. one that emulates his tone or better yet, the "Stryper" tone.. the dude is a genius so the outcome should be pretty darn cool.. I'll sure be getting one.. :D

.. the Carvin's.. an interesting story.. I'm sure most of you can figure it out... If not, ask yourselves this, do the words 'Stryper' and 'Line 6' go together, as far as tone goes? ;)

- Flash

Hello thats great info thanks for chiming in.
when you refer to MKIIC do you know or could you possibly find out for definite is the amp that was used in the past actually an MKIIC or is it a MKIIC+ I would LOVE to know for certain as they are quite different sounding amps to each other.
I have heard it mentioned before that the MKIIC was used and I have often wondered if it was just a loose reference to the MKIIC or if it was a precise comment and it was an actual MKIIC that was used as opposed to the MKIIC+ , that would be a VERY interesting piece of info

Hmmm... interesting.. never even took notice personally.. even having hooked up that amp multiple times.. (lol)..

I'll answer it with this, since I made the mistake above for the Mark V and its Mark IIc+ setting, I can almost guarantee the actual amp used was the Mark IIc+ ... (but I'll confirm that over the next few days.. 'cause now I need to know for myself..) :lol: :LOL:

- Flash
 
youthinkyourstryped":30sfso2o said:
H3000":30sfso2o said:
youthinkyourstryped":30sfso2o said:
Pretty impressive you guys.. and darn close for guess work... :) Rupe invited me to chime in if I wanted.. guess you can call me the "source" he referred to.. :D .. figured I'd lend some credence to the "tone" search, yet not reveal it all.. which I'm sure you understand... ;)

.. most of you pretty much hit everything on the head.. Oz does use his HD500 into whatever backline we get, in most cases Mesa Dual or Triple recs.. It makes it real convenient when traveling and keeps his tone mighty consistent.. Michael has always stayed old school though.. pedals.. an organic/alive tone that to me, is very difficult to beat or match.. we've attempted many times and ultimately, always came back to his pedal rig..

.. so the Orange amp.. a trial amp used maybe for a song or two on the last two albums.. great amp, great old school tube tone but ultimately not really Stryper.. Mesa was, is and probably always will be their sound, especially for recording.. Mark IIc specifically..

..ahhhh.. the Furman.. it set them apart, especially running it pre, not post.. a pretty cool story Michael has disclosed a few times from as far back as '88? '89?.. remember an article from a guitar magazine back then.. and then again here and there over the years.. has been more open with the info.

Something you guys might dig, Michael and I are working with ISP Technologies, the engineer/designer of the original "Hush" from back in the day, to design a Michael Sweet pedal.. one that emulates his tone or better yet, the "Stryper" tone.. the dude is a genius so the outcome should be pretty darn cool.. I'll sure be getting one.. :D

.. the Carvin's.. an interesting story.. I'm sure most of you can figure it out... If not, ask yourselves this, do the words 'Stryper' and 'Line 6' go together, as far as tone goes? ;)

- Flash

Hello thats great info thanks for chiming in.
when you refer to MKIIC do you know or could you possibly find out for definite is the amp that was used in the past actually an MKIIC or is it a MKIIC+ I would LOVE to know for certain as they are quite different sounding amps to each other.
I have heard it mentioned before that the MKIIC was used and I have often wondered if it was just a loose reference to the MKIIC or if it was a precise comment and it was an actual MKIIC that was used as opposed to the MKIIC+ , that would be a VERY interesting piece of info

Hmmm... interesting.. never even took notice personally.. even having hooked up that amp multiple times.. (lol)..

I'll answer it with this, since I made the mistake above for the Mark V and its Mark IIc+ setting, I can almost guarantee the actual amp used was the Mark IIc+ ... (but I'll confirm that over the next few days.. 'cause now I need to know for myself..) :lol: :LOL:

- Flash

awesome thank you that would bloody brilliant.. I have wanted to know for definite for a very long time.
just in case you do not know how to tell the difference and it is immpossible to tell by just looking at the front of the amp then there is a definitive test which is easy to do.

make sure the amp is in lead mode with the lead drive knob pulled out
then plug a guitar into the effects return jack
then strum a cord and turn the last two control knobs on the far right that is the lead drive control and lead master up and down but only those two and if there is no change in volume then it is a + version
also you can look to see if there is a + sign above the power cable on the back of the amp
 
youthinkyourstryped":gdvv9ydx said:
I'll answer it with this, since I made the mistake above for the Mark V and its Mark IIc+ setting, I can almost guarantee the actual amp used was the Mark IIc+ ... (but I'll confirm that over the next few days.. 'cause now I need to know for myself..) :lol: :LOL:

- Flash

Thanks so much for chiming in on this thread with great info! :thumbsup: I don't want you to disclose anything that you don't want to but I just want to be clear on the above statement. So for the new album Michael used the Mark V in IIc+ mode, or did you make a mistake by saying the Mark V when it was an actual IIc+ amp?

On another note, it must have been you that I spoke with at one of the Baltimore shows (see pic of the Carvins in a previous post). You were pretty tight lipped about what they were running with those Carvins :lol: :LOL: It now sounds like Oz was using his POD but could you give some input on what Michael was using with the X100B?

Thanks again for the info :rock:
 
Shiny_Surface":29wwv45j said:
Flash..

what pedal is he using in conjunction with the DSL's here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC-FLgJm4LY

Sounds great.

Just imo as much as I like their earlier album tones with the IIC+ their sound is somewhat mobile with a lot of common backline available if they have their front end stuff to make it their own. :)


yep, I agree... and they have been around since the beginning of the scene in Hollywood with wasp, motley, lynch etc to have seen and tried it all.
 
nevusofota":30cmyikg said:
nevusofota":30cmyikg said:
My band opened for them twice in the past 2 years. They used Carvin XB100's both times. It's funny because they hid them both times and had Line 6 dummy heads out front.
I snapped this pic after hanging backstage after our set. Strypers tone was excellent that night. Gave me GAS pains for an XB100 for months!



On another note......these were the coolest bunch of guys we have ever had the pleasure of playing with, touring or local. I was standing just outside the back door of the club after getting off the phone with the wife when Oz came up and started chatting with me about random shit. Didn't even recognize him at first. Total cool dude. During our sound check, Robert stood at the foot of the stage rocking out for the duration :rock: . These cats are true rock music/scene fans and continue to enjoy what they do greatly. That's tough to do considering the shit poor state that the music industry is currently in :no: . Not only that, but this band has immense talent. Hard to find musicians with such talent remain so humble.

I saw them at the House of Blues in Chicago a couple years ago and saw the Carvins too. They sounded good that night as well. :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:
 
lespaul6":1nou997z said:
Flash..

what pedal is he using in conjunction with the DSL's here..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC-FLgJm4LY
I'm so late in getting back to this, sorry guys.. and I understand there's a new thread.. lol..

Anyways, there is a host of pedals used on Michael Sweet's board, (OK, maybe not).. but it's more EQ(s) than anything else, pulling out some of the 'high's'.. The others consist of a delay, sometimes a chorus, extremely small adjustment if added, and I think a Tech 21.. but, don't quote me on that.. DSL is run clean.. which we all know is exactly what Marshall is very good at.. :)

The funny thing is, if you think of Stryper, do you think of a Marshall in any form? I think we would all agree, the answer is a resounding NO.. :cry: .. so it definitely is weird to run this system, knowing who it's for. BUT, and a big one at that, it works... and it actually works great! Michael's tone is pretty stellar when dialed in.. in my humble opinion. :rock:

Flash
 
skoora":12t9g76h said:
Aren't the Carvins just power for the Line 6 head?
At the time, the Carvin's were used as a stand in.. I'm not sure I should reveal why so I'd rather not say to be polite.. But, you could probably speculate.. ;)


Flash
 
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