New Suhr “Aura” Singlecut

[Wizard of Ozz]

All the bitching on these is hilarious... at the end of the day Suhr sold all 100 slots to dealers before NAMM was over so it is already a success.

Personally I'm looking forward to next year when they become a regular Suhr model and seeing the options that are available...

Pretty much. 99% of the complainers weren’t going to buy one regardless. I’ll wait for the custom spec option... with nitro finish.

 

[van hellion]

All the bitching on these is hilarious... at the end of the day Suhr sold all 100 slots to dealers before NAMM was over so it is already a success.

Personally I'm looking forward to next year when they become a regular Suhr model and seeing the options that are available...

Pretty much. 99% of the complainers weren’t going to buy one regardless. I’ll wait for the custom spec option... with nitro finish.

haha yeah!

I think the nitro has some crazy regulations and thats why they didn't do production run in it. you can order suhrs with nitro, i have a classic. But i think the spray is done off site and John wanted quality control on the Aura to be VERY tight. hence why he personally is working on each one. nitro would be a killer option in the future!!

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

All the bitching on these is hilarious... at the end of the day Suhr sold all 100 slots to dealers before NAMM was over so it is already a success.

Personally I'm looking forward to next year when they become a regular Suhr model and seeing the options that are available...

Pretty much. 99% of the complainers weren’t going to buy one regardless. I’ll wait for the custom spec option... with nitro finish.

haha yeah!

I think the nitro has some crazy regulations and thats why they didn't do production run in it. you can order suhrs with nitro, i have a classic. But i think the spray is done off site and John wanted quality control on the Aura to be VERY tight. hence why he personally is working on each one. nitro would be a killer option in the future!!

I have a Suhr Custom S too and the nitro finish is the way to go.

 

[Blackbird]

3. Scale length: 24.625 inches... let’s stick with 24.75 since we’re at it.

Actually, Suhr IS sticking with tradition here. Les Pauls are 24.625, despite being listed as 24.75.

Not really. It depends who you ask and how they are measuring it.

Paul Smith has changed his mind several times and now claims 24.594 is the "real" late '50s LP scale length. Hence his 594 SC.

Gibson is sticking with 24.75...

... and some others measure from the 12th fret to the end of the board and just double that measurement which is again different from 24.75... and swear this is the most accurate.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

You should go to 1:34......

Based on what?

Original Gibson Les Paul Standards from 1958-1959 had varying scale lengths... some were:
24.75
24.625
24.56
24.594
No one set spec on this. It really depends on the specific example and how it is measured. Don’t take my word for it either... go to the LesPaul Forum and read the posts from guys that own several original bursts (the same ones Gibson used as the blueprints for the collector series)... they are different. There is a lot of variation... which is why PRS and others have changed this spec often.

Obviously Paul Smith and John Suhr have different opinions... and another builder might have his own preference as well. Just like the top carves and neck carves... there is not one universally, 100% absolutely historically accurate example. Do some more reading on the subject.

if I'm not mistaken it was based on several 59's that john personally had access to. i wasn't saying or implying that Aura was a pure recreation, i was simply saying that the scale length was based off of specific 59's. And that the inconsistency came from the old building process. I don't need to research any farther than that as I'm not going into the job of les paul historian, i was just trying to help shine some inside light on why that scale length was chosen. John knows way more than me, and we could get him in this thread to give us more info if you guys really wanted to go down the rabbit hole. The guitar is consistent for every piece, that was the goal. And when choosing the scale length from 1959 he went with the one that consistently sounded great in the vintage pauls he has worked on and played over his career.

THIS.

This entire conversation is based on the fact that Wizard Of Ozz is trying to imply that John deviated from a "true" Gibson LP scale length.....regardless of what measurements are being used, when in fact, John is going right off ’59s. So, the point is.....John is not attempting to change the scale length as Wizrd Of Ozz tried to claim in his original post.

 

[van hellion]

All the bitching on these is hilarious... at the end of the day Suhr sold all 100 slots to dealers before NAMM was over so it is already a success.

Personally I'm looking forward to next year when they become a regular Suhr model and seeing the options that are available...

Pretty much. 99% of the complainers weren’t going to buy one regardless. I’ll wait for the custom spec option... with nitro finish.

haha yeah!

I think the nitro has some crazy regulations and thats why they didn't do production run in it. you can order suhrs with nitro, i have a classic. But i think the spray is done off site and John wanted quality control on the Aura to be VERY tight. hence why he personally is working on each one. nitro would be a killer option in the future!!

I have a Suhr Custom S too and the nitro finish is the way to go.

yeah it sounds really killer!

have you tried the satin finishes?? DUDE they track so good. so lively and bouncy!! i used the modern satin in the studio and was like WTF!? it was insane. thats why my guitars have a minimal finish on them, they put my fender teles to freaking shame. makes my fenders sound like dead or something. hard to explain. Not to mention a satin modern is like crazy cheap for an instrument like a suhr/anderson/tyler whatever

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

3. Scale length: 24.625 inches... let’s stick with 24.75 since we’re at it.

Actually, Suhr IS sticking with tradition here. Les Pauls are 24.625, despite being listed as 24.75.

Not really. It depends who you ask and how they are measuring it.

Paul Smith has changed his mind several times and now claims 24.594 is the "real" late '50s LP scale length. Hence his 594 SC.

Gibson is sticking with 24.75...

... and some others measure from the 12th fret to the end of the board and just double that measurement which is again different from 24.75... and swear this is the most accurate.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

You should go to 1:34......

Based on what?

Original Gibson Les Paul Standards from 1958-1959 had varying scale lengths... some were:
24.75
24.625
24.56
24.594
No one set spec on this. It really depends on the specific example and how it is measured. Don’t take my word for it either... go to the LesPaul Forum and read the posts from guys that own several original bursts (the same ones Gibson used as the blueprints for the collector series)... they are different. There is a lot of variation... which is why PRS and others have changed this spec often.

Obviously Paul Smith and John Suhr have different opinions... and another builder might have his own preference as well. Just like the top carves and neck carves... there is not one universally, 100% absolutely historically accurate example. Do some more reading on the subject.

if I'm not mistaken it was based on several 59's that john personally had access to. i wasn't saying or implying that Aura was a pure recreation, i was simply saying that the scale length was based off of specific 59's. And that the inconsistency came from the old building process. I don't need to research any farther than that as I'm not going into the job of les paul historian, i was just trying to help shine some inside light on why that scale length was chosen. John knows way more than me, and we could get him in this thread to give us more info if you guys really wanted to go down the rabbit hole. The guitar is consistent for every piece, that was the goal. And when choosing the scale length from 1959 he went with the one that consistently sounded great in the vintage pauls he has worked on and played over his career.

THIS.

This entire conversation is based on the fact that Wizard Of Ozz is trying to imply that John deviated from a "true" Gibson LP scale length.....regardless of what measurements are being used, when in fact, John is going right off ’59s. So, the point is.....John is not attempting to change the scale length as Wizrd Of Ozz tried to claim in his original post.

I never said that. Period. Read. Comprehend.

I posted MY preferences. Period. This guitar is not a replica. So there are going to be differences. But also understand there is variation in the originals as well.

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

All the bitching on these is hilarious... at the end of the day Suhr sold all 100 slots to dealers before NAMM was over so it is already a success.

Personally I'm looking forward to next year when they become a regular Suhr model and seeing the options that are available...

Pretty much. 99% of the complainers weren’t going to buy one regardless. I’ll wait for the custom spec option... with nitro finish.

haha yeah!

I think the nitro has some crazy regulations and thats why they didn't do production run in it. you can order suhrs with nitro, i have a classic. But i think the spray is done off site and John wanted quality control on the Aura to be VERY tight. hence why he personally is working on each one. nitro would be a killer option in the future!!

I have a Suhr Custom S too and the nitro finish is the way to go.

yeah it sounds really killer!

have you tried the satin finishes?? DUDE they track so good. so lively and bouncy!! i used the modern satin in the studio and was like WTF!? it was insane. thats why my guitars have a minimal finish on them, they put my fender teles to freaking shame. makes my fenders sound like dead or something. hard to explain. Not to mention a satin modern is like crazy cheap for an instrument like a suhr/anderson/tyler whatever

Indeed. The satin oil whatever finish Suhr uses is really nice too. I used to have a raw satin finish Custom S with a single/hum/Floyd which was great. The neck was just a little too thin for me.

 

[Blackbird]

All the bitching on these is hilarious... at the end of the day Suhr sold all 100 slots to dealers before NAMM was over so it is already a success.

Personally I'm looking forward to next year when they become a regular Suhr model and seeing the options that are available...

Pretty much. 99% of the complainers weren’t going to buy one regardless. I’ll wait for the custom spec option... with nitro finish.

haha yeah!

I think the nitro has some crazy regulations and thats why they didn't do production run in it. you can order suhrs with nitro, i have a classic. But i think the spray is done off site and John wanted quality control on the Aura to be VERY tight. hence why he personally is working on each one. nitro would be a killer option in the future!!

I have a Suhr Custom S too and the nitro finish is the way to go.

yeah it sounds really killer!

have you tried the satin finishes?? DUDE they track so good. so lively and bouncy!! i used the modern satin in the studio and was like WTF!? it was insane. thats why my guitars have a minimal finish on them, they put my fender teles to freaking shame. makes my fenders sound like dead or something. hard to explain. Not to mention a satin modern is like crazy cheap for an instrument like a suhr/anderson/tyler whatever

Andy,

I'm a big fan of the Modern Satins myself! I liked them so much, I bought two! I love how resonant and light they are. I had some other Custom Moderns, but I only have the Satins now.

 

[van hellion]

All the bitching on these is hilarious... at the end of the day Suhr sold all 100 slots to dealers before NAMM was over so it is already a success.

Personally I'm looking forward to next year when they become a regular Suhr model and seeing the options that are available...

Pretty much. 99% of the complainers weren’t going to buy one regardless. I’ll wait for the custom spec option... with nitro finish.

haha yeah!

I think the nitro has some crazy regulations and thats why they didn't do production run in it. you can order suhrs with nitro, i have a classic. But i think the spray is done off site and John wanted quality control on the Aura to be VERY tight. hence why he personally is working on each one. nitro would be a killer option in the future!!

I have a Suhr Custom S too and the nitro finish is the way to go.

yeah it sounds really killer!

have you tried the satin finishes?? DUDE they track so good. so lively and bouncy!! i used the modern satin in the studio and was like WTF!? it was insane. thats why my guitars have a minimal finish on them, they put my fender teles to freaking shame. makes my fenders sound like dead or something. hard to explain. Not to mention a satin modern is like crazy cheap for an instrument like a suhr/anderson/tyler whatever

Andy,

I'm a big fan of the Modern Satins myself! I liked them so much, I bought two! I love how resonant and light they are. I had some other Custom Moderns, but I only have the Satins now.

its crazy right? if you like teles you should try my sig models. its the same kind of idea.

 

[Blackbird]

3. Scale length: 24.625 inches... let’s stick with 24.75 since we’re at it.

Actually, Suhr IS sticking with tradition here. Les Pauls are 24.625, despite being listed as 24.75.

Not really. It depends who you ask and how they are measuring it.

Paul Smith has changed his mind several times and now claims 24.594 is the "real" late '50s LP scale length. Hence his 594 SC.

Gibson is sticking with 24.75...

... and some others measure from the 12th fret to the end of the board and just double that measurement which is again different from 24.75... and swear this is the most accurate.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

You should go to 1:34......

Based on what?

Original Gibson Les Paul Standards from 1958-1959 had varying scale lengths... some were:
24.75
24.625
24.56
24.594
No one set spec on this. It really depends on the specific example and how it is measured. Don’t take my word for it either... go to the LesPaul Forum and read the posts from guys that own several original bursts (the same ones Gibson used as the blueprints for the collector series)... they are different. There is a lot of variation... which is why PRS and others have changed this spec often.

Obviously Paul Smith and John Suhr have different opinions... and another builder might have his own preference as well. Just like the top carves and neck carves... there is not one universally, 100% absolutely historically accurate example. Do some more reading on the subject.

if I'm not mistaken it was based on several 59's that john personally had access to. i wasn't saying or implying that Aura was a pure recreation, i was simply saying that the scale length was based off of specific 59's. And that the inconsistency came from the old building process. I don't need to research any farther than that as I'm not going into the job of les paul historian, i was just trying to help shine some inside light on why that scale length was chosen. John knows way more than me, and we could get him in this thread to give us more info if you guys really wanted to go down the rabbit hole. The guitar is consistent for every piece, that was the goal. And when choosing the scale length from 1959 he went with the one that consistently sounded great in the vintage pauls he has worked on and played over his career.

THIS.

This entire conversation is based on the fact that Wizard Of Ozz is trying to imply that John deviated from a "true" Gibson LP scale length.....regardless of what measurements are being used, when in fact, John is going right off ’59s. So, the point is.....John is not attempting to change the scale length as Wizrd Of Ozz tried to claim in his original post.

I never said that. Period. Read. Comprehend.

I posted MY preferences. Period. This guitar is not a replica. So there are going to be differences. But also understand there is variation in the originals as well.

Oh, come on now. You were obviously implying that! You made a list of things that you were basically saying how the Aura deviates from a Gibson LP. When in fact, the scale length is no different. Just admit you were wrong and move on.

 

[Blackbird]

All the bitching on these is hilarious... at the end of the day Suhr sold all 100 slots to dealers before NAMM was over so it is already a success.

Personally I'm looking forward to next year when they become a regular Suhr model and seeing the options that are available...

Pretty much. 99% of the complainers weren’t going to buy one regardless. I’ll wait for the custom spec option... with nitro finish.

haha yeah!

I think the nitro has some crazy regulations and thats why they didn't do production run in it. you can order suhrs with nitro, i have a classic. But i think the spray is done off site and John wanted quality control on the Aura to be VERY tight. hence why he personally is working on each one. nitro would be a killer option in the future!!

I have a Suhr Custom S too and the nitro finish is the way to go.

yeah it sounds really killer!

have you tried the satin finishes?? DUDE they track so good. so lively and bouncy!! i used the modern satin in the studio and was like WTF!? it was insane. thats why my guitars have a minimal finish on them, they put my fender teles to freaking shame. makes my fenders sound like dead or something. hard to explain. Not to mention a satin modern is like crazy cheap for an instrument like a suhr/anderson/tyler whatever

Andy,

I'm a big fan of the Modern Satins myself! I liked them so much, I bought two! I love how resonant and light they are. I had some other Custom Moderns, but I only have the Satins now.

its crazy right? if you like teles you should try my sig models. its the same kind of idea.

Yeah, they have sparked my interest every since they came out. I'm going to have to see if I can demo one locally in the future!

 

[riffermadness]

$10,000?

Hell yeah,thats funny !

 

[engage757]

I love Suhr so much, but man, this is Huber/Ruokangas/Custom Collings territory. Not sure I can bring myself to it, even a week later.

 

[JimmyBlind]

 

[LP Freak]

That’s beautiful. If I had that kinda cash laying around I’d grab one....but I don’t.

 

[harddriver]

The Okoume wood intrigued me as a wood choice so I did a little research on it here to see how it might stack up to traditional Mahogany.

http://www.wood-database.com/okoume/


This is an interesting attribute...

Allergies/Toxicity: Although severe reactions are quite uncommon, Okoume has been reported to cause skin, eye, and respiratory irritation, as well as other effects such as asthma-like symptoms, coughing, and conjunctivitis (pink eye). See the articles Wood Allergies and Toxicity and Wood Dust Safety for more information.