311boogieman
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Fuck yeah babyFourT6and2":2acqxldv said:
stratjacket
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Not big into Tool, but like em alright. I think they have good moments and are better when the mood is right. This album is about the same for me, do love the mix and awesome guitar sound.
But I really like that it took over the #1 album spot from Taylor Swift on Apple, gotta love guitar music sitting on top of the world.
But I really like that it took over the #1 album spot from Taylor Swift on Apple, gotta love guitar music sitting on top of the world.
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Racerxrated":3mrslegf said:
Right. Mids are scooped in comparison to other amps.
I find it sounds really nothing like a slo. A 5150 sounds much closer to a slo.
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Racerxrated
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The gain structure is very different, but like most guys I dial my amps pretty similarly between each. So, when I had the VH4 I dialed like every other amp and with some volume it sounded similar, but different. The closest approximation that I've owned is the VHT D60. I had it dialed almost spot on with my SLO. Triple Rec as well, but still different. Of course the Triple is a clone in the pre section so it should sound like one. 5150s, I've played them as backline rigs and they are much less defined/clear/Hifi/3d(whatever term you want to use for great clarity) than the SLO. Buzzy even at high volume, to my ears at least. Never liked them.Vin Diezel":1zxqi4yi said:
Mr. Willy
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I haven’t heard the new album yet. So...is it any good?
D-Rock
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Today is the first day I did not listen to the album since it came out.
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At least as good as anything by Kanye West or Taylor Swift.Mr. Willy":25qfyhh9 said:
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stephen sawall":2pbnjacn said:
[allow me to put my flame suit on]
I still rock out to Kanye West, and that crazy man is still making interesting hip hop . The sideshow that surrounds him is pretty unfortunate, but he's still incredibly talented as far as putting together samples and executing on production to make some pretty badass backing tracks. It's not just taking samples... it's chopping them up, programming a drum beat to go on it, adding in instrumentation (synths or live), etc. It's simply not as easy as it seems.
I also happen to be of a certain age where Kanye's peak years coincided with high school and college. Definitely not as much as rock music, but hip hop has its place in my life, an I would venture to say that... Kanye in particular... that guy has a pretty undiscriminating love of music. He may have introduced bunches of his fans to Steely Dan, Daft Punk, esoteric old Greek rock bands from the late 1960's, King Crimson, James Brown, Curtis Mayfield, and way, way more. What it seems to come to is the guy is constantly listening to music and actually enjoys it. That, IMHO, is pretty freaking awesome.
Didn't think you'd walk into a Tool thread and read someone gush about Kanye, did you?
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dirtyfunkg":2e2qm4aw said:
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Racerxrated":1aubw7yz said:
I would not think too much of that. I have a 6505 and like all amplifiers it is not perfect in every aspect, but it does not sound bad at all. There is a guy on yt who compared all the iterations and his 5150 was very mid-scooped compared to the other models. Mine has lots of mids. It think they changed some little things over the years.
I would even suggest that a 6505 sounds better than a holy grail 5150 because of little changes in the input section and eq.
https://atomiumamps.tumblr.com/post/931 ... eavey-5150
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Resume and conclusion about the new Tool effort: Kanye West is dope! Says it all. 
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dirtyfunkg
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Vin Diezel":2eobf9gp said:Resume and conclusion about the new Tool effort: Kanye West is dope! Says it all.
Not sure what you mean by "Resume" here.
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Résumé.
311boogieman
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Recent interview with Justin Chancellor for those that are interested. Pretty good.
During a conversation with Ernie Ball, Tool bassist Justin Chancellor talked about the band's creative process, as well as what they've been up to creatively during the 13-year break between the latest two albums.
As widely reported, the group has a new album out titled "Fear Inoculum," which marks their first studio release since 2006's "10,000 Days."
When asked if Tool's well-established status in the musical world "carries some pressure" when they're releasing new material, Justin replied (transcribed by UG
"I think so, yeah. The first time I was involved with an album, [1996's] 'Aenima,' it was just full steam ahead, no looking back. For me, it was just right into the deep end. There's no time to second guess.
"So for sure, this time I think there were moments where you have this kind of a fear that perhaps you kind of, like, self-imploded a little bit and the purity of what was good, about what you were doing, has been compromised by over-thinking and over-calculating everything.
"And I think that pressure is more about wanting to do something pure and honest for the four of us rather than what we thought should be produced. Of course, you want people to like it, but I don't think that was really ever a pressure.
"I think that people appreciate what goes into it. I think that the way that we work and the way people play their instruments, I think it always had value and it's been interesting."
There have been a few announcements through the years that the album is almost done. Were there times that you were actually close?
"At times, it felt like we were on the way. Just so you understand, there were never full songs written, but there was a great body of work that we were working on, some of which followed through into what we have now, but a bunch of it didn't make it.
"As a whole body of work, we were kind of working on these piles of ideas at the same time. We all see it differently, but you start to have an image of how the whole thing is going to look if you could make it into an image or a landscape.
"And I know for myself, I would get really excited, but other people have different ideas, so maybe that was a different way that we worked that didn't work. It was just different, and I think it was almost like we had to get back to basics a few times.
"Like, 'Let's just concentrate on one thing, who likes what? Which idea are we all into? Okay, let's start working on that,' after having a month away from each other. [Laughs]"
With that timespan, I'm sure you guys had a ton of ideas built up to sift through. Did you guys have a ton of ideas banked? Was there a process to go through all these different ideas?
"We have all been accumulating ideas the whole time, you know, there's stuff on this album that was written before I was in the band, you know riffs that Adam [Jones, guitar] had that we included in songs on this album.
"While we're writing, we're all individually coming up with ideas, there's so much to go through, and Adam's a real advocate of that. I'm sort of, like, I put my head down and I just keep going forward and I'm really excited about the next thing.
"I have a kind of a personal philosophy that if I wake up in the morning and the idea is gone, it wasn't good enough to stay. And also the confidence that there's going to be something amazing coming up next, you're making room for a new idea.
"Adam's got a bit more of a philosophy that, 'Do you remember that idea you wrote? That was great.' And I'll remember, he'll play it to me, he'll go, 'This is great, we got to use this,' almost like a bank of ideas.
"So, we'd get frustrated with each other because he'd be working on something from an old idea and I'd suddenly have a new idea, like, 'What about if we did this?', and the rest of the guys are, like, 'Woah, reel yourself in, just put that on the side, we're working on this right now.'
"I kind of get carried away with it, you know? I guess that would be more of a prog-rock thing."
Where do most of your best ideas come from? Are there certain settings or scenarios?
"Yeah, I like to be outside, I like to dig into the soil, I like to hike, I'm into sailing, just generally an outdoors type of person and I do get a lot of ideas when I'm on my own out in nature, walking around.
"I mean, if I sit down and spend an evening - which is not all the time - on my own playing my bass, I'll come up with some ideas, melodic ideas on an instrument, but most of the time, a lot of ideas that make it into the Tool records are kind of rhythmic and percussive.
"They're the beats that kind of come into my head, and then after that, I'll apply melody to it."
My impression from what I've read is that you guys might have a riff or a chord progression and then you fairly exhaustively experiment with it from every angle. Is that true?
"Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it always makes you laugh when you listen to the radio and people doing interviews say, like, 'Yeah, it took me two minutes to write that song.' For us, it's not like that at all.
"I mean, I don't think it's ever happened, maybe it's happened for Maynard [James Keenan] writing lyrics, I don't know. I've had a few little moments of writing where I was, like, 'Okay, that's really cool.'
"It kind of comes out of nowhere in a way, but as far as, like, writing a piece, we've always experimented every way you want. Maybe that's the part of the reason the band is what it is because some of the parts I write end up being guitar parts."
Is Danny Carey pretty instrumental in the process of your experimentation?
"Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, we're all just searching, wandering around, we really enjoy playing together, you know what I mean. That's the best part of it.
"So, it's actually kind of fun to experiment with all that stuff, it is a fact that you do look around and you mess around with the ideas, sometimes you can find something greater than the original thought.
"Other times, you'll come back to the original thought and it will be so evident that it's the strongest thing - the original, basic percussive riff or whatever that you had."
Is there anybody in the band who could be deemed the biggest perfectionist?
"I don't think so, I think everybody's pretty much... I don't even want to say 'perfectionist,' you get, really, excitement over an outcome of an idea and you can kind of get your heart set on that.
"When there are four of us, everyone has a different perception of what that is, so you kind of have to constantly let that go."
How about song titles, is that solely the domain of Maynard?
"Oh yeah. I mean, when it comes to the lyrical content, it's all him, he'll react to the music, we'll talk about it sometimes, we had a few get-togethers a year before we recorded stuff and get through where we're at.
"But mostly he'll call for a rhythm idea, have me count out; he wouldn't understand how the rhythm of something goes, so I'll count it out for him. But when it comes to actual poetry of it, that's all him."
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/ge ... m_are.html
During a conversation with Ernie Ball, Tool bassist Justin Chancellor talked about the band's creative process, as well as what they've been up to creatively during the 13-year break between the latest two albums.
As widely reported, the group has a new album out titled "Fear Inoculum," which marks their first studio release since 2006's "10,000 Days."
When asked if Tool's well-established status in the musical world "carries some pressure" when they're releasing new material, Justin replied (transcribed by UG
"I think so, yeah. The first time I was involved with an album, [1996's] 'Aenima,' it was just full steam ahead, no looking back. For me, it was just right into the deep end. There's no time to second guess.
"So for sure, this time I think there were moments where you have this kind of a fear that perhaps you kind of, like, self-imploded a little bit and the purity of what was good, about what you were doing, has been compromised by over-thinking and over-calculating everything.
"And I think that pressure is more about wanting to do something pure and honest for the four of us rather than what we thought should be produced. Of course, you want people to like it, but I don't think that was really ever a pressure.
"I think that people appreciate what goes into it. I think that the way that we work and the way people play their instruments, I think it always had value and it's been interesting."
There have been a few announcements through the years that the album is almost done. Were there times that you were actually close?
"At times, it felt like we were on the way. Just so you understand, there were never full songs written, but there was a great body of work that we were working on, some of which followed through into what we have now, but a bunch of it didn't make it.
"As a whole body of work, we were kind of working on these piles of ideas at the same time. We all see it differently, but you start to have an image of how the whole thing is going to look if you could make it into an image or a landscape.
"And I know for myself, I would get really excited, but other people have different ideas, so maybe that was a different way that we worked that didn't work. It was just different, and I think it was almost like we had to get back to basics a few times.
"Like, 'Let's just concentrate on one thing, who likes what? Which idea are we all into? Okay, let's start working on that,' after having a month away from each other. [Laughs]"
With that timespan, I'm sure you guys had a ton of ideas built up to sift through. Did you guys have a ton of ideas banked? Was there a process to go through all these different ideas?
"We have all been accumulating ideas the whole time, you know, there's stuff on this album that was written before I was in the band, you know riffs that Adam [Jones, guitar] had that we included in songs on this album.
"While we're writing, we're all individually coming up with ideas, there's so much to go through, and Adam's a real advocate of that. I'm sort of, like, I put my head down and I just keep going forward and I'm really excited about the next thing.
"I have a kind of a personal philosophy that if I wake up in the morning and the idea is gone, it wasn't good enough to stay. And also the confidence that there's going to be something amazing coming up next, you're making room for a new idea.
"Adam's got a bit more of a philosophy that, 'Do you remember that idea you wrote? That was great.' And I'll remember, he'll play it to me, he'll go, 'This is great, we got to use this,' almost like a bank of ideas.
"So, we'd get frustrated with each other because he'd be working on something from an old idea and I'd suddenly have a new idea, like, 'What about if we did this?', and the rest of the guys are, like, 'Woah, reel yourself in, just put that on the side, we're working on this right now.'
"I kind of get carried away with it, you know? I guess that would be more of a prog-rock thing."
Where do most of your best ideas come from? Are there certain settings or scenarios?
"Yeah, I like to be outside, I like to dig into the soil, I like to hike, I'm into sailing, just generally an outdoors type of person and I do get a lot of ideas when I'm on my own out in nature, walking around.
"I mean, if I sit down and spend an evening - which is not all the time - on my own playing my bass, I'll come up with some ideas, melodic ideas on an instrument, but most of the time, a lot of ideas that make it into the Tool records are kind of rhythmic and percussive.
"They're the beats that kind of come into my head, and then after that, I'll apply melody to it."
My impression from what I've read is that you guys might have a riff or a chord progression and then you fairly exhaustively experiment with it from every angle. Is that true?
"Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it always makes you laugh when you listen to the radio and people doing interviews say, like, 'Yeah, it took me two minutes to write that song.' For us, it's not like that at all.
"I mean, I don't think it's ever happened, maybe it's happened for Maynard [James Keenan] writing lyrics, I don't know. I've had a few little moments of writing where I was, like, 'Okay, that's really cool.'
"It kind of comes out of nowhere in a way, but as far as, like, writing a piece, we've always experimented every way you want. Maybe that's the part of the reason the band is what it is because some of the parts I write end up being guitar parts."
Is Danny Carey pretty instrumental in the process of your experimentation?
"Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, we're all just searching, wandering around, we really enjoy playing together, you know what I mean. That's the best part of it.
"So, it's actually kind of fun to experiment with all that stuff, it is a fact that you do look around and you mess around with the ideas, sometimes you can find something greater than the original thought.
"Other times, you'll come back to the original thought and it will be so evident that it's the strongest thing - the original, basic percussive riff or whatever that you had."
Is there anybody in the band who could be deemed the biggest perfectionist?
"I don't think so, I think everybody's pretty much... I don't even want to say 'perfectionist,' you get, really, excitement over an outcome of an idea and you can kind of get your heart set on that.
"When there are four of us, everyone has a different perception of what that is, so you kind of have to constantly let that go."
How about song titles, is that solely the domain of Maynard?
"Oh yeah. I mean, when it comes to the lyrical content, it's all him, he'll react to the music, we'll talk about it sometimes, we had a few get-togethers a year before we recorded stuff and get through where we're at.
"But mostly he'll call for a rhythm idea, have me count out; he wouldn't understand how the rhythm of something goes, so I'll count it out for him. But when it comes to actual poetry of it, that's all him."
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/ge ... m_are.html
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Vin Diezel
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Paul D'Amour hated that long-winded song writing process. I kind of understand why.
311boogieman
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I just ran into this and thought you would appreciate.
It is an article about their first show since album came out. I guess it was last Sunday. Set list is posted in here as well as some videos.
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/ge ... songs.html
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It is an article about their first show since album came out. I guess it was last Sunday. Set list is posted in here as well as some videos.
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/ge ... songs.html
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FourT6and2
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CEG85
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Mr. Willy":1nb2mqwx said:
Listen to it and judge for yourself.
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Philhouse
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Screengrab shot of Adam's current pedalboard from a YT clip of the DC 25th Nov concert, in case there's more trainspotters like me.
Looks like Adam's running an extra Boss Delay (DD3 maybe?), and also some pedals on the upper tier; a Providence Chrono Delay?, a MXR MicroFlanger? (I'm guessing these pedals from the pedals that were seen in Adams FI studio instagram pics and videos), and a Blue Boss two knob pedal (any guesses from the eagle eyed?, could be just a CE-2/CE-2W Chorus perhaps?), also seems to be a black pedal next to the MXR Micro Flanger, could it be another tuner in place of the Strobostomp he used previously?. The rest seems like his foundation stuff (MXR Micro amp, PSM-5's, BF-2, DOD EQ etc...)
Looks like Adam's running an extra Boss Delay (DD3 maybe?), and also some pedals on the upper tier; a Providence Chrono Delay?, a MXR MicroFlanger? (I'm guessing these pedals from the pedals that were seen in Adams FI studio instagram pics and videos), and a Blue Boss two knob pedal (any guesses from the eagle eyed?, could be just a CE-2/CE-2W Chorus perhaps?), also seems to be a black pedal next to the MXR Micro Flanger, could it be another tuner in place of the Strobostomp he used previously?. The rest seems like his foundation stuff (MXR Micro amp, PSM-5's, BF-2, DOD EQ etc...)
glip22
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We were very close to the stage with unobstructed views. It was probably the most clearest sound we have heard yet at a show.
Pneuma live was incredible. If you get a chance to see them on this current tour jump on it. Excellent concert all the way around.
Maynard didn't hide anywhere near what he has in the past. Adam's three cabs were right in front of me maybe 40-50 feet away. Now I want a VH4 but a blue face. Great live band. Carey is just a monster. We had a great view of him. Awesome show!
Pneuma live was incredible. If you get a chance to see them on this current tour jump on it. Excellent concert all the way around.
Maynard didn't hide anywhere near what he has in the past. Adam's three cabs were right in front of me maybe 40-50 feet away. Now I want a VH4 but a blue face. Great live band. Carey is just a monster. We had a great view of him. Awesome show!