NGD: ESP Eclipse standard II with the old school logo.

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i went to guitar center to buy a $20 power supply for a pedal, when i saw this. esp eclipse standard II (2006) with the old school logo, which idk why, just more eye pleasing to me than the E-II logo. It was one of those instances where i picked it up, played it for about 30 seconds and went "goddamn it.... i gotta buy this". It plays so damn smooth. I usually play pretty traditional guitars (strats, lp's exploreres, etc), so going to one of these performance based guitars with the flatter radius, the body contours, the extra jumbo frets, lp / 3x3 tuners that actually stay in tune, its as light as a feather, etc really helps you cruise.
My son couldn't put it down either. I think i'm going to actually keep the emgs too, they sound fine to me.

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I've always wanted to try one of these.. do they compare anything to an LP or are they totally different?
 
I've always wanted to try one of these.. do they compare anything to an LP or are they totally different?

I've got one. They are awesome hotrods. The neck is just right (thin/fast) and the body is a bit thinner than a traditional LP, but mine still weighs over 8 lbs and has a loud acoustic voice. Great resonance! The EMGs and extra jumbo frets work perfectly for its intended mission.

From what I've seen, recent E-IIs tend to have thicker necks than the earlier Stds, so advantage if you like thinner necks. It is NO WAY an ultra-thin neck, similar to a Gibon 60s slim taper, maybe a little girthier.
 
I've always wanted to try one of these.. do they compare anything to an LP or are they totally different?
The regular thickness ones probably sit somewhere between an SG and an LP. They don't have quite the girth of an LP, especially in the lower mids. But they are typically lighter and your picking arm sits a little closer to your body which you may or may not like.

Congrats on your NGD!!!

I dug this out out from under my bed where it had been sleeping for the last 6 months.. and it's going to the gig with me tonight.
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I’ve always loved the looks of those but never played one.
 
I've always wanted to try one of these.. do they compare anything to an LP or are they totally different?
I had 3. Great guitars. Amazing fretboard + neck but IMO the tone leaves a lot to be desired. It sounds a lot like a hot rodded superstrat. I prefer a good Les Paul when it comes to tone.
 
Congrats

I’ve wanted one of those forever, you rarely see them sitting around anymore
 
I dont have any idea what you guys talking about! Lol.
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256, 1000fr, and 401v.

I don't like playing les pauls, but I love these play and sound.

The 1000 is a heck of a guitar.

A cool thing I just realized also-------The EC-1000s have 24 frets!

In my mind, this gives me a justification to snag one, since it is different than my E-II. :cheers:
 
I've always wanted to try one of these.. do they compare anything to an LP or are they totally different?
The necks aren't angled as much and the bodies are thinner so they don't really feel that similar imo.
 
Which EMG's?
81/60. i like the 89 in the neck with the coil tap, but this is fine for now.

Its not really the les paul sound, its like a 24.75 shred guitar shaped like a les paul. Fatter sounding than a super strat, but not as fat as a les paul. i'm fine with that. my days of playing those clunky gibson les pauls are over. to be fair, i LOVE a nicely set up gibson lp, but these performance based guitars just smoke them when it comes to playability.
Gibsons problem is that they can make a nice looking, nice sounding guitar, but it seems like their fret, nut, and set up people just HALF FUCKING ASS it from there, and send out these very expensive SHIT playing guitars that need another 500 in work to get them to the PRECISION quality set ups of these higher end japanese guitars. With fender, even their squire series guitars are coming from the factory with a decent set up right out of the box most of the time. idk why Gibson usa thinks they can just ride off their name and 60's era iconic reputation, and not actually compete. i can't speak for their custom shop and Murphys Lab and all that, but the run of the mill standard gibsons (lp standards, sg standards, v's, exploreres, etc) that you see out there are like 80/20 clunkers to nice guitars. Thats why gibson guys LOOOOVE their gibsons so much... cuz it took owning 30 substandard ones before they found their keeper.
 
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81/60. i like the 89 in the neck with the coil tap, but this is fine for now.

Its not really the les paul sound, its like a 24.75 shred guitar shaped like a les paul. Fatter sounding than a super strat, but not as fat as a les paul. i'm fine with that. my days of playing those clunky gibson les pauls are over. to be fair, i LOVE a nicely set up gibson lp, but these performance based guitars just smoke them when it comes to playability.
Gibsons problem is that they can make a nice looking, nice sounding guitar, but it seems like their fret, nut, and set up people just HALF FUCKING ASS it from there, and send out these very expensive SHIT playing guitars that need another 500 in work to get them to the PRECISION quality set ups of these higher end japanese guitars. With fender, even their squire series guitars are coming from the factory with a decent set up right out of the box most of the time. idk why Gibson usa thinks they can just ride off their name and 60's era iconic reputation, and not actually compete. i can't speak for their custom shop and Murphys Lab and all that, but the run of the mill standard gibsons (lp standards, sg standards, v's, exploreres, etc) that you see out there are like 80/20 clunkers to nice guitars. Thats why gibson guys LOOOOVE their gibsons so much... cuz it took owning 30 substandard ones before they found their keeper.
I agree with everything you just said, the 89 included. The 89 is my favorite in the bridge as well.
 
A cool thing I just realized also-------The EC-1000s have 24 frets!

In my mind, this gives me a justification to snag one, since it is different than my E-II. :cheers:
Yep. The 1000s are killer. They are high endyish. One of my faves. Looking for a particular hardtail 1000 to possibly replace my 401
The necks aren't angled as much and the bodies are thinner so they don't really feel that similar imo.
This varies per model. The 1000 fr has no neck angle like a strat. The full thickness ones are more gibson like. There is a minimum angle needed with a TOM
I have a black and gold LTD EC-1000FR and like it quite a lot. It would be fun to compare a ESP and LTD side by side.
Black and gold? Ive seen the abalone ones, the flat black one, and the trans black ones like mine.
Pics?
Mine is 57/66tw equipped.
81/60. i like the 89 in the neck with the coil tap, but this is fine for now.

Its not really the les paul sound, its like a 24.75 shred guitar shaped like a les paul. Fatter sounding than a super strat, but not as fat as a les paul. i'm fine with that. my days of playing those clunky gibson les pauls are over. to be fair, i LOVE a nicely set up gibson lp, but these performance based guitars just smoke them when it comes to playability.
Gibsons problem is that they can make a nice looking, nice sounding guitar, but it seems like their fret, nut, and set up people just HALF FUCKING ASS it from there, and send out these very expensive SHIT playing guitars that need another 500 in work to get them to the PRECISION quality set ups of these higher end japanese guitars. With fender, even their squire series guitars are coming from the factory with a decent set up right out of the box most of the time. idk why Gibson usa thinks they can just ride off their name and 60's era iconic reputation, and not actually compete. i can't speak for their custom shop and Murphys Lab and all that, but the run of the mill standard gibsons (lp standards, sg standards, v's, exploreres, etc) that you see out there are like 80/20 clunkers to nice guitars. Thats why gibson guys LOOOOVE their gibsons so much... cuz it took owning 30 substandard ones before they found their keeper.
To my ear, they are definitely in the gibson camp, but not 100% les paul.
The thicker CTMs get alot closer, but still.
My tricked out Ibanez RG.View attachment 449378
Rg421?
 
Yep. The 1000s are killer. They are high endyish. One of my faves. Looking for a particular hardtail 1000 to possibly replace my 401

This varies per model. The 1000 fr has no neck angle like a strat. The full thickness ones are more gibson like. There is a minimum angle needed with a TOM

Black and gold? Ive seen the abalone ones, the flat black one, and the trans black ones like mine.
Pics?
Mine is 57/66tw equipped.

To my ear, they are definitely in the gibson camp, but not 100% les paul.
The thicker CTMs get alot closer, but still.

Rg421?
I’m a sucker for surf/sea foam green.
 
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