Noob question: Wiring Suhr Aldrich pups in Les Paul

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Oh boy, 4 conductors and a silver ground, I'm so confused lol

I've wired pickups in the past but this one's beyond me. Can anybody help? I don't know how Suhr pairs their wires for starters. The bridge pup I just took out had two wires, easy stuff. These Suhr's have me feeling overwhelmed!

Not looking to coil tap or anything, just want the standard Gibson "master volume" setup like I have now.

Any help would be super appreciated!

Matt
 
cyndicate":17iuvr9e said:
Black - Hot
Green - Ground
Red & White wired together

I think they follow SD wiring schems.

That definitely helps! I wasn't sure if they followed SD or Dimarzio. Thanks!
 
Phrygian":3ocq6paq said:
Still a little fuzzy on the rest though. lol

Take a look at the wiring diagram I linked above. Black goes to hot, Green gets soldered together with the bare wire to the ground, and the red and white just twist together and tape it. The link above should be a diagram for a LP style guitar

2 hums, 2 vol, 2 tone, 3 way switch.
 
what are you fuzzy on?

let me see if i can break it down for you...

twist the red and white wires together and solder them to eachother then shrink tube or tape them off.

twist the green and bare wire together and solder that to where the ground from the original pickup was (odds are the back of a pot)

solder the black wire to where the second wire from the original pickup was, either a pot lug or switch depending on the way the guitar was originally wired.

does that help clear it up a bit?

-Mike
 
XSSIVE":ck0eu9u6 said:
twist the red and white wires together and solder them to eachother then shrink tube or tape them off.

That part for one, thanks Mike! I thought I had to use up all the wires or something.

The other part is figuring out the master volume setup, but I might be able to figure that out.
 
Two Wires need to be tied off together. ( connecting each coil.) (red and white)
the bare and green need to be soldered to the back of the pot ( bracing plate ground and the grounding of the coils)
and the black is the hot.

if you want master volume, put a switch between the volume pot and the black wire and connect the neck pick up to the other side of the switch.

Brae
 
Thanks for the help guys! I got 'er all figured out except one little thing. When I touch the cover of the neck pickup I get buzzing, almost like I'm removing the ground. I've never run into something like this. Any idea what it could be?

Thanks again!
 
Phrygian":3tbc3zhl said:
Thanks for the help guys! I got 'er all figured out except one little thing. When I touch the cover of the neck pickup I get buzzing, almost like I'm removing the ground. I've never run into something like this. Any idea what it could be?

Thanks again!

Bump for help lol thanks.
 
Phrygian":2jqylazm said:
Phrygian":2jqylazm said:
Thanks for the help guys! I got 'er all figured out except one little thing. When I touch the cover of the neck pickup I get buzzing, almost like I'm removing the ground. I've never run into something like this. Any idea what it could be?

Thanks again!

Bump for help lol thanks.


Check the solder joint where the neck pickup's Green and Bare ground (twisted together) are soldered to the back of the pot.
 
muudrock":1tyk36tb said:
Phrygian":1tyk36tb said:
Phrygian":1tyk36tb said:
Thanks for the help guys! I got 'er all figured out except one little thing. When I touch the cover of the neck pickup I get buzzing, almost like I'm removing the ground. I've never run into something like this. Any idea what it could be?

Thanks again!

Bump for help lol thanks.


Check the solder joint where the neck pickup's Green and Bare ground (twisted together) are soldered to the back of the pot.

Cool, I'll check it out tonight. The weird thing was that it doesn't buzz unless I touch the cover. Usually when you touch something it creates a ground right? but it seems the opposite in this case. Hopefully a new solder will fix it.
 
I think you will like those Aldrich pickups in your LP. They split well too, if you every want to change the volumes or tones to a push-pull pot. I can help you wire those, they are easy...
 
blackba":2zihp6zz said:
I think you will like those Aldrich pickups in your LP. They split well too, if you every want to change the volumes or tones to a push-pull pot. I can help you wire those, they are easy...

Funny, I was just debating it this morning. Maybe something I'll do down the road, ditch teh master volume setup and open up some options with split coils :)

When the time comes I'll definitely appreciate the help! lol
 
Okay, major noob moment, shouldn't be soldering when I'm tired. I reversed the hot and the ground, hence the buzzing when I touched the pickup cover.

I feel like such a nob lol
 
Phrygian":3nvjr0uw said:
blackba":3nvjr0uw said:
I think you will like those Aldrich pickups in your LP. They split well too, if you every want to change the volumes or tones to a push-pull pot. I can help you wire those, they are easy...

Funny, I was just debating it this morning. Maybe something I'll do down the road, ditch teh master volume setup and open up some options with split coils :)

When the time comes I'll definitely appreciate the help! lol

What I did is replace each of the tone pots with a push pull pot to split the pickups. The bridge aldrich in particular sounds great split. The neck is not bad either. I would say I run the bridge split 1/3 of the time.

I learned too when building my cabs, not to work on complicated things when you are tired or frustrated. When you are that way, go for the mindless tasks like dishes.....
 
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I learned too when building my cabs, not to work on complicated things when you are tired or frustrated. When you are that way, go for the mindless tasks like dishes.....[/quote]


Ugh, building cabs when you are tired SUCKS!!! takes sooo much long and the chance of messing something up is HUGE
 
What I did is replace each of the tone pots with a push pull pot to split the pickups. The bridge aldrich in particular sounds great split. The neck is not bad either. I would say I run the bridge split 1/3 of the time.

I learned too when building my cabs, not to work on complicated things when you are tired or frustrated. When you are that way, go for the mindless tasks like dishes.....
Old post, I know, but I've just ordered up a set of Doug Aldrich pickups for my Les Paul Studio...

I can install them myself as humbuckers, but I heard someone demoing theirs with a split coil on the Bridge pickup and it sounded awesome... a lot clearer while still singing strong... when he kicked it back into humbucking mode, it sounded muffled, so my ear really tapped into that single coil sound...

It looked like the tone pot he had was a push/push toggle type...

Would it be very difficult to explain what kind of pots I'd need to get and how to wire them to split the coils on the Doug Aldrich bridge pickup (and maybe both, still haven't decided yet)...? Is there a diagram that shows how to do this somewhere...?

Thx...
 
Old post, I know, but I've just ordered up a set of Doug Aldrich pickups for my Les Paul Studio...

I can install them myself as humbuckers, but I heard someone demoing theirs with a split coil on the Bridge pickup and it sounded awesome... a lot clearer while still singing strong... when he kicked it back into humbucking mode, it sounded muffled, so my ear really tapped into that single coil sound...

It looked like the tone pot he had was a push/push toggle type...

Would it be very difficult to explain what kind of pots I'd need to get and how to wire them to split the coils on the Doug Aldrich bridge pickup (and maybe both, still haven't decided yet)...? Is there a diagram that shows how to do this somewhere...?

Thx...

This might help-

https://madhatterguitarproducts.com...-dual-volume-kits/products/terminator-dvdt-3t
The wiring diagrams for both splitting one pickup or splitting both are on there. The diagrams are for his solderless kits, but the wires still go to the same components in the diagrams.

I just ordered an Aldrich for the Orville I have on the way and might end up doing this eventually. This thread popping up couldn’t be better timed because I’m fucking clueless when it comes to soldering pickups. It’s amazing how I can understand complex signal chain routing, but I’m a complete fucking moron when it comes to pickups.
 
Old post, I know, but I've just ordered up a set of Doug Aldrich pickups for my Les Paul Studio...

I can install them myself as humbuckers, but I heard someone demoing theirs with a split coil on the Bridge pickup and it sounded awesome... a lot clearer while still singing strong... when he kicked it back into humbucking mode, it sounded muffled, so my ear really tapped into that single coil sound...

It looked like the tone pot he had was a push/push toggle type...

Would it be very difficult to explain what kind of pots I'd need to get and how to wire them to split the coils on the Doug Aldrich bridge pickup (and maybe both, still haven't decided yet)...? Is there a diagram that shows how to do this somewhere...?

Thx...
Your lp studio should use the shorter shaft pots, but it could use the long shaft pots. That is the key thing to check. If you want to coil split both at the same time, you can just get one pot, if you want to be able to do them individually then you need two push pull pots. I recommend one for each pickup and I like putting them in the tone pot position as you may want to adjust the tone pot a bit when you switch.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EP1201PP--dimarzio-ep1201pp-pushpull-pot-dpdt-500k-ohm
That is an example of a pot I think will work assuming you have the short shafts. I did switch the Aldrich pickups to series/parallel switching with the push pull, but I think they sounded better split and in series. Parallel coils as my least favorite of the 3 options.
Happy to answer any more questions on the wiring.
 
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