Ola Demoing the Kemper...

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Shark Diver":133re618 said:
Audioholic":133re618 said:
jcj":133re618 said:
Anxious to try one, although I don't think it will be an Axe killer.

I think most of the people that REALLY dig the Axe are way into the flexibility.

We'll see :D
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yeah def won't Kill the axe entirely but you can bet it will put a huge dent in some clientelle. I mean already on TGP there is Axe VS Kemper debates and some cats favoring the Kemper. While they are 2 different approaches for sure, the Kemper offers something the Axe, or any other digital modeler has offered to Date, being able to profile amps, whenever you want. That IS a game changer in the approach and technology, as far as basic core tones is concerned. Axe will always have great efx and great sounding stuff, but it won't be able to do what the kemper is doing.
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Seems it would just come down to what sounds better. Most people will be downloading profiles for either. How many end users will really be able to have access to all the different amps they may want for the Kempler, and then the access to the cabs and mics and the ability to mic correctly? IMO it will just be which sounds better to the individual, since again, most will simply use profiles done by others.
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Yes and I think it already comes with hundreds of profiles. Def will come down to what sounds better. I guess though just the thought of how it works, actually taking the frequency response of a real mic'd cab to generate its sound pallete seems like it would have the heads up, at least in terms of more faithfully mimicking a real amp. That was my biggest issue with the Axe fx, it wasn't open enough. I have yet to play a II...

I know we have peeps on this board with killer setup, that we could only hope the axe would mimick, CCV's, Fortin modded Etc. I DO see an advantage of this, I mean how many versions of Fortin do you see cliff releasing?
 
This kind if technology really has some potential. I'm also interested in how much flexibility you have EQing the profiled tone. Kinda wish it was in a traditional head cab too. It looks like an old tube radio which is kinda cool but I'd prefer a more traditional look.
 
The Hoff":3hgyxanq said:
This kind if technology really has some potential. I'm also interested in how much flexibility you have EQing the profiled tone. Kinda wish it was in a traditional head cab too. It looks like an old tube radio which is kinda cool but I'd prefer a more traditional look.
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It actually looks like something out of a retro sci fi movie to me. Def not the sexiest thing I have seen and I like the rack approach of the axe , but still
 
Joeytpg":1wxsw8h6 said:
Audioholic":1wxsw8h6 said:
with the Axe fx you're stuck with what Fractal dialed.
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Not really. Infinite # of aftermarket speakers and amazing tone shaping inside. They are both cool, but for me it would simply come down to which sounded better after all the tweaking available to me.

At this point if tone is equal, and factoring in FX, versatility, and 2 space rack I think the Axe is still ahead in this race - even at a higher price point.
 
It will come down to feel. I have yet to play an AFX patch that had a feel worth a shit. If the Kemper feels better it will dominate. If not, who cares about either of them. :D
 
Shark Diver":29gs0t3d said:
Joeytpg":29gs0t3d said:
Audioholic":29gs0t3d said:
with the Axe fx you're stuck with what Fractal dialed.
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Not really. Infinite # of aftermarket speakers and amazing tone shaping inside. They are both cool, but for me it would simply come down to which sounded better after all the tweaking available to me.

At this point if tone is equal, and factoring in FX, versatility, and 2 space rack I think the Axe is still ahead in this race - even at a higher price point.
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True, I guess i meant what Fractal has included as far as Basic Amps provided. It DEFINTETALLY will come down to sound, its new, but so far it seems as if it sounds as good as the Axe, and some people who have both prefer the Kemper and sold the Axe. That is of course individual taste, but still interesting..
 
I "think" I seen rumors ( I may have dreamed this) that the AxeII may be able to do its own version of amp profiling one day in future FW updates......like I said I think I read this somewhere so take it with a grain of salt.

The feel of the AxeII has been greatly improved with FW 5 IMHO.....I played my Recto today for the first time in 3 months for 5 min. then went back to playing my Axe cuz it just felt and sounded better....sh!t can't believe I just said that!!!
 
I would be curious to hear Ola talk about the Kemper, or do a shootout. Hopefully he will
 
killertone":3lyrw9z2 said:
It will come down to feel. I have yet to play an AFX patch that had a feel worth a shit. If the Kemper feels better it will dominate. If not, who cares about either of them. :D
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Agreed, feel is the deal breaker regardless of tone.
 
Remember this is just showing the profiling. After that you can tweak this profile like a regular amp, with some extra parameters and stuff! I especially like the Clarity knob, ranging between a brown sound and to the ultra glassy boutique sound
 
What I like about the Kemper:
- sounds and FEELS like the original
- YOU are in control of what amp YOU want to play
- the profile's Amp, Tonestack and Cab can be swapped
- active forum where you can ask for profiles of the amp amp want http://kemper-amps.com/forum/index.php?page=Index
- FW updates do not effect your profiles
- no more hours of tweaking so kind of plug & play
- future FREE release of new updates with new effects and new features
- Designed and made in Germany
- cheaper then the FAS stuff
- after time available around the corner
- you can profile your nice AFX patches or 11R patches

What I like about the AFX:
- 19" format
 
DADA":2vzcqdyw said:
What I like about the Kemper:
- sounds and FEELS like the original
- YOU are in control of what amp YOU want to play
- the profile's Amp, Tonestack and Cab can be swapped
- active forum where you can ask for profiles of the amp amp want
- FW updates do not effect your profiles
- no more hours of tweaking so kind of plug & play
- future FREE release of new updates with new effects and new features
- Designed and made in Germany
- cheaper then the FAS stuff
- after time available around the corner
- you can profile your nice AFX patches or 11R patches

What I like about the AFX:
- 19" format
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Then you should know that they're doing a 19" version ;)
 
Ola......WTF........when?.....

If that is the case I will have a BBQ party burning some stuff :-)

But seriously. Are you teasing me with some scandinavian humor?
 
No joke... I asked them myself at Namm... They're even making one with a built in poweramp as well.
 
You just put a very big grine on my face. So my relation with the FAS D...head is at last comming to an end. No need for the amp if it is not comming from Matrix :-)

BTW. Ola please put some more video's opinions and profiles of those awesome amps you have got there!
 
That was a great read! It looks like this Kemper Amp seriously convinced you and your mate.

Good work and nice to read and watch.

I wait for that 19" version knowing when I get it there will be loads of OLA profiles available!
A tweak free future with instant gratifying bad ass sounds! In a german quality made rack solution!
 
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