Perfect guitar ?

[EnGl]

Perfect guitar really exist or not ?

Yesterday I was with my friend on a small party. Lots of booze , nice atmosphere in metal climate.
We discussed about something called "perfect guitar". He said , that none of his guitar ( ESP NV , Custom RAN and few other "high end") is perfect. Excluding fretwork , finish and other "tech-things".
Every his guitar has a minor intonation problems especially in chords playing and none there are places on fretboard which sound won't sustain equally to other positions- despite the fact of well setup.

Can you make a comment , I'm curious. Because I think that guitar 2k+ or more should be perfect !

 

[BYTOR]

No such thing at any price.Perfect doesn't exist in an imperfect world.

 

[EnGl]

No such thing at any price.Perfect doesn't exist in an imperfect world.

Thank you for opinion

Come on , lets discuss about that. Other experienced guys ?

 

[jwhitman]

"Perfect" is such a loaded term. It reminds me of an old folks saying.... There's a seat for every ass. And it's true, especially with something as personal as guitars. Every one has a different model they like, be it shape or color, different pickups they like, different fret styles they like, different scale lengths they like... The list goes on and on to make hundreds of thousands of combinations (if not more). That's not taking into consideration the set-up and various ways a guitar can be adjusted to be set up for someone.

On the subject of set up or quality perfection, keep in mind variables like string condition, relative humidity, temperature and various other things will affect the feel of an instrument. So lets say you get a set up from a pro tech... It feels and plays perfect strait off the bench... Take it outside of the store and the temperature change will immediately start to affect the instrument, in an ever so small way. So unless you can record the humidity, prevent your skin from excreting oil on the strings and play your guitar at only the EXACT temp that the tech had set in his shop Your guitar is going to be different than the "perfect" set up that it may have had before it left.

I personally believe analyzing your equipment in such detail takes away from playing and what being a musician is really about. Trying to "find perfection" is like trying to reinvent the wheel. I'm the kind of guy that finds (I have one now) a great tech that does a good job making my guitar sound and play the best it possibly can with the attributes and playability that I prefer and then I just.... Play the damned thing When it's beaten beyond the specs and feel that I prefer, I take it back for a rinse and repeat.

 

[Spaceboy]

Parker Fly Supreme with an extended baritone scale length is my dream guitar.

 

[jwhitman]

As an additional note... You have to keep in mind, the more expensive/boutique a guitar is, the increased human aspect of it's construction is and the more chance for imperfections or irregularities as we are far from perfect. I find that irregularities and imperfections make each instrument individual and to me... That's right up my alley. Send me something you hate because of a small finish irregularity or something minuscule that prevents it from being perfect. I'll cherish it!

 

[glip22]

My Suhr Modern in my sig is about as close to perfect as I have played but its not perfect by any means. 100% perfection does not think exist as there are too many variables to call something perfect. Its all relative to each individual's ideals of what perfection is. If you have a large group agreeing to something's perfection it may be considered more perfect as it now has a paradigm. What I find to be a perfect female ass will still get a pimple on it once in a awhile. My friends all agree her ass is perfect but someone will not agree. All buts will smell once in a while too so how perfect is that. Go play your fucked up fretted guitar and smile.

 

[steve_k]

Perfect is in the hands of the player. Perfect to me is comfort, action, playability, hold tunes tune. Finish and imperfections are low on my list of finding the perfect guitar. Electronics are dependent on the amp and set up. That said, my Ken Lawrence Explorer isn't far off perfect....

 

[wizardy]

For me the closest to perfection are the music man petrucci bfr
Tonal comfort and playability

 

[EnGl]

Hmm , so we can say : Close to perfection but not perfect

steve_k - great explorer ! Hetfield fan I see Fantastic !

 

[steve_k]

Hmm , so we can say : Close to perfection but not perfect

steve_k - great explorer ! Hetfield fan I see Fantastic !

Yeah....I'm a Het kind of guy

Got a white ESP Snakebite coming next....

 

[stratovarius]

Perfect intonation really isn't possible on any sort of fretted instrument, though it is possible to compensate to some degree. Strings simply don't have perfect flexibility so compensation becomes necessary. Tempered scales aren't perfect either, but that is the price one pays for the capability of harmonic modulation. Maybe in the next world...

 

[DoomBuggi]

Perfect is what makes one happy. That which makes one eager to play the guitar when ever there is a chance. That which brings joy, and happiness. Perfection is being in the moment.

 

[Badronald]

For me it's a Stratocaster. A really good Stratocaster with great fretwork and upgraded pots and pickups.

These days I have that guitar. It's a fantastic Strat with a perfect radius neck, Upgraded pots. A Suhr Aldrich at the bridge with coil tap and a Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounder at the neck.

That guitar can literally do anything. Perfection for me.

I'm positive that one of the nice Suhr or Anderson superstrats would be just as good and be able to cover any type of music with balls and finesse.

 

[EnGl]

Wow , thanks for so much reply

But is there ever possible to achieve a perfect intonation ? Or maybe this is just like stratovarious said ?

 

[jwhitman]

Intonation changes every time you change the length of the string (fret a note) You might have perfect 12th fret intonation, but every other note is going to vary because the length of the string has changed.

 

[5150clone]

By sight yes. ..in a practical sense. No. Not for me anyway. Either they sound Great and play whacked or vice versa. Or so ugly u wouldn't play it in public. I've gotten close with my Warmoths but not perfect

 

[Tone Zone]

My Suhr Modern in my sig is about as close to perfect as I have......

This would apply to me as well.

 

[stratovarius]

I have gotten good results with an Earvana nut on my Fender style guitars. YMMV

 

[Valtyr]

For me, the Parker Fly Classic is as close as it gets.

Spend enough time with any guitar and you will find something to bitch about.