Petrucci signature Mark IIc+

[spacebard]

,,,,and,does the amp come with a footswitch or is it MIDI switching only and buy your own system?

It has both.

New 3x3, 6 Button Footswitch (Bottom Row: Channel 1, Channel 2, Channel 3 – Top Row: Reverb, EQ 1 & EQ 2)

and

MIDI Switchable/Programmable via Control Change and Program Change messages (MIDI IN, MIDI Thru/Out, MIDI Channel & Store Switches) – Controls Channels 1, 2, 3, EQ 1, EQ 2, Shred, Reverb & FX Loop

 

[dsquared]

Did any else notice that there is no mention of the power section being simul-class? Or did I miss it? I thought that the simul class was necessary for the 2c+ to be magical. Just hearsay, I have never played one.

No. Some prefer the SC, some prefer the 100/60 which I believe this new 2C+ is. And that's because Petrucci likes the 100/60 best for his tone from what I've read. I had a 100/60 original at the same time as my 60w upgraded 2C+. I liked the 60 better so I sold the 100. When I had a SC Mark 3 I liked it best with all 6L6 anyway, if my 2C were SC I'd probably run it the same way.

A Simul-class IIC+, aka DRG, is not 100/60; Class A is 15 watts and Class A/B is 75 watts.

 

[dsquared]

I am not up on the 2C+ components and values, for the originals.
Is Mesa just stubborn, or can they not source the parts to do a "true to form" reissue, of their extremely sought after model?

Maybe this will be a true reissue, but why not sooner? That model has been a grail amp, for long while now.

They cannot source the PT, which is generally considered the magic of the IIC+.

 

[OUTLAW1969]

I am not up on the 2C+ components and values, for the originals.
Is Mesa just stubborn, or can they not source the parts to do a "true to form" reissue, of their extremely sought after model?

Maybe this will be a true reissue, but why not sooner? That model has been a grail amp, for long while now.

They cannot source the PT, which is generally considered the magic of the IIC+.

Gotcha, Thanks

 

[billsbigego]

PT? Power Transformer.

I have a MK II C + Want to see it?

This profile sounds exactly like the original. I've never heard an original though

 

[Mailman1971]

Hmmmmm......might have to check one of these bad boys out.

 

[InFlames235]

Maybe they found a way to remake the transformer of the 2C+. I mean the transformer in this thing is just insane looking!

 

[blackba]

This one is going to be tough to resist.

 

[Tone Monster]

Maybe they found a way to remake the transformer of the 2C+. I mean the transformer in this thing is just insane looking!

Holy hell that is some serious iron!

 

[JackBootedThug]

that's gonna be a monster amp no matter what, but I want psycodave or steve_k to try one and give their perspectives on it.

 

[glip22]

Where is the power cord? Inside right chassis?

 

[Racerxrated]

Did any else notice that there is no mention of the power section being simul-class? Or did I miss it? I thought that the simul class was necessary for the 2c+ to be magical. Just hearsay, I have never played one.

No. Some prefer the SC, some prefer the 100/60 which I believe this new 2C+ is. And that's because Petrucci likes the 100/60 best for his tone from what I've read. I had a 100/60 original at the same time as my 60w upgraded 2C+. I liked the 60 better so I sold the 100. When I had a SC Mark 3 I liked it best with all 6L6 anyway, if my 2C were SC I'd probably run it the same way.

A Simul-class IIC+, aka DRG, is not 100/60; Class A is 15 watts and Class A/B is 75 watts.

Right. As I said, some prefer the HRG, which is the 100/60, and some prefer the DRG, which is the SC. I believe this is an HRG, which is a 100/60, which is the same as Petrucci's favorite 2C+. I'm sure if Petrucci's favorite 2C+ was a Simul Class version this would be a DRG. If this doesn't have the 60w switch then obviously its a 100. I haven't looked closely enough but I don't believe its a Simul Class. I'm happy enough with my SRG. Love to add this someday though!

 

[chumbucket]

I am not up on the 2C+ components and values, for the originals.
Is Mesa just stubborn, or can they not source the parts to do a "true to form" reissue, of their extremely sought after model?

Maybe this will be a true reissue, but why not sooner? That model has been a grail amp, for long while now.

They cannot source the PT, which is generally considered the magic of the IIC+.

That doesn't sound right? I find it hard to believe that Mesa Boogie couldn't at the very least, have an original PT reverse engineered and duplicated.

 

[slash57]

I am not up on the 2C+ components and values, for the originals.
Is Mesa just stubborn, or can they not source the parts to do a "true to form" reissue, of their extremely sought after model?

Maybe this will be a true reissue, but why not sooner? That model has been a grail amp, for long while now.

They cannot source the PT, which is generally considered the magic of the IIC+.

That doesn't sound right? I find it hard to believe that Mesa Boogie couldn't at the very least, have an original PT reverse engineered and duplicated.

right? How hard could it be to custom make these

 

[sjk]

I am not up on the 2C+ components and values, for the originals.
Is Mesa just stubborn, or can they not source the parts to do a "true to form" reissue, of their extremely sought after model?

Maybe this will be a true reissue, but why not sooner? That model has been a grail amp, for long while now.

They cannot source the PT, which is generally considered the magic of the IIC+.

If you say so, btw the OT not the PT has an effect on tone!

 

[Racerxrated]

Honestly, do you guys really think that they can't get damn close to the original? I'm sure they can. Maybe it won't be exactly like the best 2C+ out there, but I'm betting its close. Remember the 2C+ mode on the Mk V is based on a non eq model which is not the tone most prefer. I have faith that this will be killer.

 

[MesaGoBloogie]

Petrucci is full of shit. If you take him at this word, he preferred the sound of the IIC+ mode from the Mark V to the original. I would expect his Sig amp to be more comparable to the Mark V IIC+ mode rather than the original. If so, that sucks. If not, he's a shill.

 

[Racerxrated]

He's a shill, of course. Most guys who have endorsements are to some degree right?? I'm not a huge JP fan but I dig his tone, at least the early stuff. And if he did seriously gig the MkV who knows what else was in his signal chain to get his tone right. There are a few transformer designers like Merren that really spec out their products to be exactly like the original plexi for instance. So I'm sure Mesa can come very close if they want to. Also, my SRG is an October 2015 upgraded 2C. And it beat out an original HRG with the 100 pt. So Mesa used current and available parts to upgrade mine and the only question mark would appear to be the transformers. If you look at the transformer on the Mk V its nowhere near the size of this new one....which looks very similar to the PT in the original HRG. Don't really know if it matters but there it is.

 

[MesaGoBloogie]

He's a shill, of course. Most guys who have endorsements are to some degree right?? I'm not a huge JP fan but I dig his tone, at least the early stuff. And if he did seriously gig the MkV who knows what else was in his signal chain to get his tone right. There are a few transformer designers like Merren that really spec out their products to be exactly like the original plexi for instance. So I'm sure Mesa can come very close if they want to. Also, my SRG is an October 2015 upgraded 2C. And it beat out an original HRG with the 100 pt. So Mesa used current and available parts to upgrade mine and the only question mark would appear to be the transformers. If you look at the transformer on the Mk V its nowhere near the size of this new one....which looks very similar to the PT in the original HRG. Don't really know if it matters but there it is.

JP explicitly said that he preferred the tone of his Mark V in the IIC+ mode to an original IIC+. Full stop. Suffice it to say, he's the only person I've ever heard/read/etc. indicate that they preferred the Mark V. If he's being sincere, it sheds a lot of light on what the JP-2C is likely to be and frankly it makes sense from a production perspectively. Effectively three channels of the Mark V's IIC+ mode. I'm inclined to believe this given the variance between the JP-2C push/pulls and the original IIC+.

Btw, when Mesa upgraded your IIC, they largely rewired your board and touched a few components. That's a far cry from using a totally new board, manufactured in a totally different way, with totally different components.

 

[Racerxrated]

Well I guess its a matter of waiting until someone here gets one and can sincerely compare it to their original side by side. I had a Mk 3 and while it was a nice amp, both 2C+ models I've had were clearly a step up in every way. If this amp is clearly a step up like that while still not exactly like an original its still a nice package at a good price considering all the features....really looking forward to an honest review and clips!