Petrucci signature Mark IIc+

[Kevin11]

I'd like to know if you can run one EQ into the other? The amp is lacking a "deep" push/pull. Anyone who knows the Mark series amps knows that the pull deep is part of the sound. This is where he Mark V fell short. Running one EQ into the other will give you "that" sound.

It looks like only one EQ per channel based on the description and front panel toggles. Not exactly sure though.

The description for the 6-button footswitch doesn't match up with the fs assignable toggles I see on the front panel. The footswitch has 3 for channels, then Reverb, EQ1 and EQ2. I assume the EQ buttons are one or the other, not both, but who knows? But on the front panel of the amp, in addition to those 6, there are also toggles to assign FX (loop on/off?) and Shred settings for channels 2 and 3 to the footswitch too. Where are those buttons? I can't turn the loop on/off with the fs? I think they need to add a few more switches.

 

[InFlames235]

I'd like to know if you can run one EQ into the other? The amp is lacking a "deep" push/pull. Anyone who knows the Mark series amps knows that the pull deep is part of the sound. This is where he Mark V fell short. Running one EQ into the other will give you "that" sound.

It looks like only one EQ per channel based on the description and front panel toggles. Not exactly sure though.

The description for the 6-button footswitch doesn't match up with the fs assignable toggles I see on the front panel. The footswitch has 3 for channels, then Reverb, EQ1 and EQ2. I assume the EQ buttons are one or the other, not both, but who knows? But on the front panel of the amp, in addition to those 6, there are also toggles to assign FX (loop on/off?) and Shred settings for channels 2 and 3 to the footswitch too. Where are those buttons? I can't turn the loop on/off with the fs? I think they need to add a few more switches.

Apparently the additional functions will only be footswitchable with a MIDI footswitch and not with the standard one that comes with it.

 

[rottingcorpse]

I was excited when the markV came out, and again when the markV mini showed up, but never went after one hard. This new one has me wanting it badly tho...

 

[katsumura78]

Trying to sell my ibanez to find one of these lol. I gotta get one.

 

[Kevin11]

Apparently the additional functions will only be footswitchable with a MIDI footswitch and not with the standard one that comes with it.

Which makes sense now that I dig into it a little more. Wasn't trying to bag the amp, much to the contrary. Was just wondering why the number of foot switchable features on the amp didn't match up with the standard footswitch.

The fact that this thing is MIDI along with the rest of the feature set has me interested for sure. Something like the FX8 or Helix with the JP would be a killer gigging rig at least where setup, features and flexibility are concerned.

 

[DaveP]

I called Mesa to ask if this was a variation on the C+ mode of the Mark V.
The response was. No. This was designed from the ground up based on JP's Mark IIC+ 60/100.

I believe they can get real close to the sound but I want to play it and see if it FEELS like a C+.
There is a certain feel that only an original C+ would give you. Hard to explain what i'm talking about but if you ever played a C+ you know.

 

[Knockout]

Damn, may actually go back to amps (from Axe Fx)

 

[dougiefresh]

I preordered through Boogie Hollywood.
Hoping it lives up to the hype.

 

[Racerxrated]

Looking forward to your review!

 

[NewWorldMan]

From a Music Radar article:

In a new interview with Total Guitar, Petrucci had this to say: "As I've been using Mesa amps forever and they are on every DT album recorded, it is something that I am unbelievably excited about.

"[New album] The Astonishing was recorded with the JP-2C exclusively. It's a three-channel amp that is an exact reissue of an authentic Mesa/Boogie Mark IIC+ with the same circuit board and transformer, etc, but with a bunch of modern twists or improvements.

 

[MesaGoBloogie]

From a Music Radar article:

In a new interview with Total Guitar, Petrucci had this to say: "As I've been using Mesa amps forever and they are on every DT album recorded, it is something that I am unbelievably excited about.

"[New album] The Astonishing was recorded with the JP-2C exclusively. It's a three-channel amp that is an exact reissue of an authentic Mesa/Boogie Mark IIC+ with the same circuit board and transformer, etc, but with a bunch of modern twists or improvements.

Lol Petrucci is so full of shit. First, it's not the same transformer. Mesa is no longer using Schumachers and they are certainly not using original run 105 transformers here. The original 105s never had a 16 ohm tap, unlike the transformer here. I also find it really hard to be believe they are using hand traced circuit boards here, since they haven't done so since the IIC+ itself. Also, odd how he can say it's an exact reissue when it's missing a shit load of the push/pulls from the original.

He should just stick to hawking the Cab Clone - tell us again how amazing of a product that is Johnny.

 

[Racerxrated]

From a Music Radar article:

In a new interview with Total Guitar, Petrucci had this to say: "As I've been using Mesa amps forever and they are on every DT album recorded, it is something that I am unbelievably excited about.

"[New album] The Astonishing was recorded with the JP-2C exclusively. It's a three-channel amp that is an exact reissue of an authentic Mesa/Boogie Mark IIC+ with the same circuit board and transformer, etc, but with a bunch of modern twists or improvements.

Lol Petrucci is so full of shit. First, it's not the same transformer. Mesa is no longer using Schumachers and they are certainly not using original run 105 transformers here. The original 105s never had a 16 ohm tap, unlike the transformer here. I also find it really hard to be believe they are using hand traced circuit boards here, since they haven't done so since the IIC+ itself. Also, odd how he can say it's an exact reissue when it's missing a shit load of the push/pulls from the original.

He should just stick to hawking the Cab Clone - tell us again how amazing of a product that is Johnny.

Petrucci uses a 100/60 HRG 2C+, which to my knowledge has a 100 transformer not a 105. I always thought that the 105 transformer was exclusive to the DRG. Maybe I'm wrong? My HRG that I sold not too long ago had a 100, and I believe Psychodave's 2C+ also has a 100. I know most think that a 2C+ has to have Simul class, and has to have the 105 to be ideal. But its really a matter of taste. There are some that think the export transformer is most ideal. But really, we'll just have to wait and see until one of us that can A/B a real one to this can let us know an honest perspective. I've also read where the original 2C+ always sounds better than an upgraded one. Not true whatsoever. So common opinions and things you read on the net aren't always truth. Let's hope this is the real deal. I know I do.

 

[MesaGoBloogie]

From a Music Radar article:

In a new interview with Total Guitar, Petrucci had this to say: "As I've been using Mesa amps forever and they are on every DT album recorded, it is something that I am unbelievably excited about.

"[New album] The Astonishing was recorded with the JP-2C exclusively. It's a three-channel amp that is an exact reissue of an authentic Mesa/Boogie Mark IIC+ with the same circuit board and transformer, etc, but with a bunch of modern twists or improvements.

Lol Petrucci is so full of shit. First, it's not the same transformer. Mesa is no longer using Schumachers and they are certainly not using original run 105 transformers here. The original 105s never had a 16 ohm tap, unlike the transformer here. I also find it really hard to be believe they are using hand traced circuit boards here, since they haven't done so since the IIC+ itself. Also, odd how he can say it's an exact reissue when it's missing a shit load of the push/pulls from the original.

He should just stick to hawking the Cab Clone - tell us again how amazing of a product that is Johnny.

Petrucci uses a 100/60 HRG 2C+, which to my knowledge has a 100 transformer not a 105. I always thought that the 105 transformer was exclusive to the DRG. Maybe I'm wrong? My HRG that I sold not too long ago had a 100, and I believe Psychodave's 2C+ also has a 100. I know most think that a 2C+ has to have Simul class, and has to have the 105 to be ideal. But its really a matter of taste. There are some that think the export transformer is most ideal. But really, we'll just have to wait and see until one of us that can A/B a real one to this can let us know an honest perspective. I've also read where the original 2C+ always sounds better than an upgraded one. Not true whatsoever. So common opinions and things you read on the net aren't always truth. Let's hope this is the real deal. I know I do.

Factory HRGs and DRGs both used the 105. The 100 was used on the IIC and some extremely early IIC+s.

You're right, it's a matter of taste and purpose. The export excels at certain things as do the transformers used in the SRG, HRG and DRG. Most prefer the DRG, myself included. The exports and 60W excel at more cleanish single note tones. I also have to disagree with you slightly with the original versus upgrade debate - I can definitely hear a difference and generally prefer the factories, but IIC converts w/ the RP-11A board pretty darn close. These are relatively small differences though, as they all sound better than the IIC+ mode in the Mark V.

 

[Soulstealer]

Wtf do STG,HRG,DRG mean?

 

[Racerxrated]

SRG=Sixty watt, Reverb, Geq. HRG=Hundred watt, Reverb, Geq. DRG=D-Simul class, Reverb, Geq. They also made the monstrous and rare 2C+ Coliseum, KRG...180 watts(!), Reverb, Geq. And all these models can be found without reverb or eq, usually less desired than those with.

 

[Racerxrated]

From a Music Radar article:

In a new interview with Total Guitar, Petrucci had this to say: "As I've been using Mesa amps forever and they are on every DT album recorded, it is something that I am unbelievably excited about.

"[New album] The Astonishing was recorded with the JP-2C exclusively. It's a three-channel amp that is an exact reissue of an authentic Mesa/Boogie Mark IIC+ with the same circuit board and transformer, etc, but with a bunch of modern twists or improvements.

Lol Petrucci is so full of shit. First, it's not the same transformer. Mesa is no longer using Schumachers and they are certainly not using original run 105 transformers here. The original 105s never had a 16 ohm tap, unlike the transformer here. I also find it really hard to be believe they are using hand traced circuit boards here, since they haven't done so since the IIC+ itself. Also, odd how he can say it's an exact reissue when it's missing a shit load of the push/pulls from the original.

He should just stick to hawking the Cab Clone - tell us again how amazing of a product that is Johnny.

Petrucci uses a 100/60 HRG 2C+, which to my knowledge has a 100 transformer not a 105. I always thought that the 105 transformer was exclusive to the DRG. Maybe I'm wrong? My HRG that I sold not too long ago had a 100, and I believe Psychodave's 2C+ also has a 100. I know most think that a 2C+ has to have Simul class, and has to have the 105 to be ideal. But its really a matter of taste. There are some that think the export transformer is most ideal. But really, we'll just have to wait and see until one of us that can A/B a real one to this can let us know an honest perspective. I've also read where the original 2C+ always sounds better than an upgraded one. Not true whatsoever. So common opinions and things you read on the net aren't always truth. Let's hope this is the real deal. I know I do.

Factory HRGs and DRGs both used the 105. The 100 was used on the IIC and some extremely early IIC+s.

You're right, it's a matter of taste and purpose. The export excels at certain things as do the transformers used in the SRG, HRG and DRG. Most prefer the DRG, myself included. The exports and 60W excel at more cleanish single note tones. I also have to disagree with you slightly with the original versus upgrade debate - I can definitely hear a difference and generally prefer the factories, but IIC converts w/ the RP-11A board pretty darn close. These are relatively small differences though, as they all sound better than the IIC+ mode in the Mark V.

I kept the SRG upgraded C+, sounded better to me than the factory HRG I had. Almost identical but the 60 was a little more aggressive to my ears. Based on my own comparison I don't buy the original vs upgrade general opinion.

 

[MesaGoBloogie]

From a Music Radar article:

In a new interview with Total Guitar, Petrucci had this to say: "As I've been using Mesa amps forever and they are on every DT album recorded, it is something that I am unbelievably excited about.

"[New album] The Astonishing was recorded with the JP-2C exclusively. It's a three-channel amp that is an exact reissue of an authentic Mesa/Boogie Mark IIC+ with the same circuit board and transformer, etc, but with a bunch of modern twists or improvements.

Lol Petrucci is so full of shit. First, it's not the same transformer. Mesa is no longer using Schumachers and they are certainly not using original run 105 transformers here. The original 105s never had a 16 ohm tap, unlike the transformer here. I also find it really hard to be believe they are using hand traced circuit boards here, since they haven't done so since the IIC+ itself. Also, odd how he can say it's an exact reissue when it's missing a shit load of the push/pulls from the original.

He should just stick to hawking the Cab Clone - tell us again how amazing of a product that is Johnny.

Petrucci uses a 100/60 HRG 2C+, which to my knowledge has a 100 transformer not a 105. I always thought that the 105 transformer was exclusive to the DRG. Maybe I'm wrong? My HRG that I sold not too long ago had a 100, and I believe Psychodave's 2C+ also has a 100. I know most think that a 2C+ has to have Simul class, and has to have the 105 to be ideal. But its really a matter of taste. There are some that think the export transformer is most ideal. But really, we'll just have to wait and see until one of us that can A/B a real one to this can let us know an honest perspective. I've also read where the original 2C+ always sounds better than an upgraded one. Not true whatsoever. So common opinions and things you read on the net aren't always truth. Let's hope this is the real deal. I know I do.

Factory HRGs and DRGs both used the 105. The 100 was used on the IIC and some extremely early IIC+s.

You're right, it's a matter of taste and purpose. The export excels at certain things as do the transformers used in the SRG, HRG and DRG. Most prefer the DRG, myself included. The exports and 60W excel at more cleanish single note tones. I also have to disagree with you slightly with the original versus upgrade debate - I can definitely hear a difference and generally prefer the factories, but IIC converts w/ the RP-11A board pretty darn close. These are relatively small differences though, as they all sound better than the IIC+ mode in the Mark V.

I kept the SRG upgraded C+, sounded better to me than the factory HRG I had. Almost identical but the 60 was a little more aggressive to my ears. Based on my own comparison I don't buy the original vs upgrade general opinion.

I'm taking about comparing a factory DRG to a converted DRG, a factory HRG to a convert, etc. As a general proposition, I've never heard a convert that sounded demonstrably better than a similarly spec'd factory original. This is particularly true with the RP-10A models, although the RP-11A converts sounded closer. Have you compared your SRG to a factory SRG, or your HRG to a convert? Differences are there, but it's up to you if you care. Not trying to hurt your feelings or to criticize your amp.

That said, I'm not surprised you preferred the converted SRG to the factory HRG. They sound rather different. The 100/60s are the only IIC+s I don't really care for.

 

[Racerxrated]

No worries here. Could've kept either amp or both, decided to keep the best sounding one to my ears and go a different direction for another amp. Some dig the 2C+ non eq...to each their own.

 

[Soulstealer]

SRG=Sixty watt, Reverb, Geq. HRG=Hundred watt, Reverb, Geq. DRG=D-Simul class, Reverb, Geq. They also made the monstrous and rare 2C+ Coliseum, KRG...180 watts(!), Reverb, Geq. And all these models can be found without reverb or eq, usually less desired than those with.

I have a 1985 60W head with no options. You don't even wanna know what I paid....it was stupid cheap. Sounds awesome. I use it more for clean and non-metal tones, which it seems to excel at. I'm excited to get a JP-2C because I think it will cover the other end of the spectrum. I'd just never learned all the acronyms used meant.

 

[jeff5]

I want one but I'll wait a few years for the used market =D.