Poplar bodied guitars, and 250k pots vs 500k - discuss

[Flump]

I like how throughout this whole ridiculous thread no one noticed that he wants to replace his 250k pots with 500's because its too bright. 500's will make the guitar sound brighter.

 

[axemeaquestion]

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I like how throughout this whole ridiculous thread no one noticed that he wants to replace his 250k pots with 500's because its too bright. 500's will make the guitar sound brighter.

Now that's something that will make an impact, friend!!!

The wood? Not so much.

 

[Flump]

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I like how throughout this whole ridiculous thread no one noticed that he wants to replace his 250k pots with 500's because its too bright. 500's will make the guitar sound brighter.

Now that's something that will make an impact, friend!!!

The wood? Not so much.

I'm actually with you in that argument. That's coming from a mechanical engineer and a guy who builds his own guitars as a hobby though.

 

[dstroud]

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I like how throughout this whole ridiculous thread no one noticed that he wants to replace his 250k pots with 500's because its too bright. 500's will make the guitar sound brighter.

Now that's something that will make an impact, friend!!!

The wood? Not so much.

I'm actually with you in that argument. That's coming from a mechanical engineer and a guy who builds his own guitars as a hobby though.

I've had some guitars that 250K sounded harsh in a certain region, I'm guessing because of the combination of the wood/pickup/pot. then even though switching to the 500K did technically make it brighter - it was still a more pleasant high end and it made the guitar sound better and more full. That's why I think experimenting with the 2 is not necessarily a bad idea.

 

[John4021]

Turns out the guitar I was going to trade for has a poplar body...mine is ash. Both are EBMM Silhouettes.

I have tried a few pups in my ash silo and each time it still sounds thin, bright and lacking 'fatness'. Today I called EBMM and found out that the silo's come with 250k pots

Maybe a simple switch to a 500k will bring my guitar to life??

I'm still curious about poplar vs ash though

I had John "The Dutchman" up here put a 1meg pot in the San Dimas........meh
Didnt seem to make this big radical differance as he said it would.

 

[axemeaquestion]

The type of wood has a negligible impact on tone. Not none, but minor.

That's why the instrument is called an electric guitar, not a wooden guitar.

I can only hope that your guitar playing skills are not as limited as your vocabulary, friend!!!

It's time you learned a new scale, brother!!!

 

[grooveHT]

Hey Tom, what have you tried in there? I know it came with PAF Pros, which are not really known for being fat. I agree with some of the others here that switching up to 500k will let MORE top end through rather than less; my take would be to try a few different pickups. It's also a 24-fret-er so your neck position will be inherently brighter anyway. I'd try something like an SD PATB-3 Blues in the bridge and maybe an AII Pro in the neck, if you're looking for fatter. The PATB are designed to put some depth back into floyd-ed guitars, worth a shot!

 

[HELSTRUME]

Poplar is about like Alder, about even in the tone spectrum. Ash is brighter with more highs.

 

[Lord Toneking]

Hey Tom, what have you tried in there? I know it came with PAF Pros, which are not really known for being fat. I agree with some of the others here that switching up to 500k will let MORE top end through rather than less; my take would be to try a few different pickups. It's also a 24-fret-er so your neck position will be inherently brighter anyway. I'd try something like an SD PATB-3 Blues in the bridge and maybe an AII Pro in the neck, if you're looking for fatter. The PATB are designed to put some depth back into floyd-ed guitars, worth a shot!

Hey Jeff!

i put a Screamin' Demon, JB, the original PAF of course, and now Ihave a Tone Zone in it

These are all pups I had laying around because I dont have the cash to be buying pickups to try out. I figured the TZ would be the fattest of the bunch, and though it is it just not as 'beefy' as it is in basswod bodies

Im gonna throw a 500k in it tonight just for giggles and see. I do love this guitar and its playability (you should know )...I just want it to sound like I want it to

 

[Superunknown]

I just recently replaced the 250K pots in my EBMM Morse Y2D with an RS Guitarworks kit with 500K pots.....made the guitar sound much more clear with a better overall tone. I now love this guitar!

 

[dstroud]

Hey Tom, what have you tried in there? I know it came with PAF Pros, which are not really known for being fat. I agree with some of the others here that switching up to 500k will let MORE top end through rather than less; my take would be to try a few different pickups. It's also a 24-fret-er so your neck position will be inherently brighter anyway. I'd try something like an SD PATB-3 Blues in the bridge and maybe an AII Pro in the neck, if you're looking for fatter. The PATB are designed to put some depth back into floyd-ed guitars, worth a shot!

Hey Jeff!

i put a Screamin' Demon, JB, the original PAF of course, and now Ihave a Tone Zone in it

These are all pups I had laying around because I dont have the cash to be buying pickups to try out. I figured the TZ would be the fattest of the bunch, and though it is it just not as 'beefy' as it is in basswod bodies

Im gonna throw a 500k in it tonight just for giggles and see. I do love this guitar and its playability (you should know )...I just want it to sound like I want it to

I'd check out the tone control circuit too - that will also have a big affect on the high end. going from 500K to 250K will roll off some highs, even when the knob is on 10.

 

[Lord Toneking]

Hey Tom, what have you tried in there? I know it came with PAF Pros, which are not really known for being fat. I agree with some of the others here that switching up to 500k will let MORE top end through rather than less; my take would be to try a few different pickups. It's also a 24-fret-er so your neck position will be inherently brighter anyway. I'd try something like an SD PATB-3 Blues in the bridge and maybe an AII Pro in the neck, if you're looking for fatter. The PATB are designed to put some depth back into floyd-ed guitars, worth a shot!

Hey Jeff!

i put a Screamin' Demon, JB, the original PAF of course, and now Ihave a Tone Zone in it

These are all pups I had laying around because I dont have the cash to be buying pickups to try out. I figured the TZ would be the fattest of the bunch, and though it is it just not as 'beefy' as it is in basswod bodies

Im gonna throw a 500k in it tonight just for giggles and see. I do love this guitar and its playability (you should know )...I just want it to sound like I want it to

I'd check out the tone control circuit too - that will also have a big affect on the high end. going from 500K to 250K will roll off some highs, even when the knob is on 10.

I was going to snip off the tone control. Think that'll mess anything up?

 

[John4021]

Hey Tom, what have you tried in there? I know it came with PAF Pros, which are not really known for being fat. I agree with some of the others here that switching up to 500k will let MORE top end through rather than less; my take would be to try a few different pickups. It's also a 24-fret-er so your neck position will be inherently brighter anyway. I'd try something like an SD PATB-3 Blues in the bridge and maybe an AII Pro in the neck, if you're looking for fatter. The PATB are designed to put some depth back into floyd-ed guitars, worth a shot!

Hey Jeff!

i put a Screamin' Demon, JB, the original PAF of course, and now Ihave a Tone Zone in it

These are all pups I had laying around because I dont have the cash to be buying pickups to try out. I figured the TZ would be the fattest of the bunch, and though it is it just not as 'beefy' as it is in basswod bodies

Im gonna throw a 500k in it tonight just for giggles and see. I do love this guitar and its playability (you should know )...I just want it to sound like I want it to

I'd check out the tone control circuit too - that will also have a big affect on the high end. going from 500K to 250K will roll off some highs, even when the knob is on 10.

I was going to snip off the tone control. Think that'll mess anything up?

Man,dont do that. Is there a capacator across the lugs on the tone pot and or the volume pot?
By the way,I just took out that damn 1MEG pot and put in a new 500k...all is good now. No tone loss.
That 1MEG was a tone suckin P.O.S. when you rolled back the volume

 

[dstroud]

Hey Tom, what have you tried in there? I know it came with PAF Pros, which are not really known for being fat. I agree with some of the others here that switching up to 500k will let MORE top end through rather than less; my take would be to try a few different pickups. It's also a 24-fret-er so your neck position will be inherently brighter anyway. I'd try something like an SD PATB-3 Blues in the bridge and maybe an AII Pro in the neck, if you're looking for fatter. The PATB are designed to put some depth back into floyd-ed guitars, worth a shot!

Hey Jeff!

i put a Screamin' Demon, JB, the original PAF of course, and now Ihave a Tone Zone in it

These are all pups I had laying around because I dont have the cash to be buying pickups to try out. I figured the TZ would be the fattest of the bunch, and though it is it just not as 'beefy' as it is in basswod bodies

Im gonna throw a 500k in it tonight just for giggles and see. I do love this guitar and its playability (you should know )...I just want it to sound like I want it to

I'd check out the tone control circuit too - that will also have a big affect on the high end. going from 500K to 250K will roll off some highs, even when the knob is on 10.

I was going to snip off the tone control. Think that'll mess anything up?

taking out the tone control will definitely make the guitar brighter

 

[Lord Toneking]

Hey Tom, what have you tried in there? I know it came with PAF Pros, which are not really known for being fat. I agree with some of the others here that switching up to 500k will let MORE top end through rather than less; my take would be to try a few different pickups. It's also a 24-fret-er so your neck position will be inherently brighter anyway. I'd try something like an SD PATB-3 Blues in the bridge and maybe an AII Pro in the neck, if you're looking for fatter. The PATB are designed to put some depth back into floyd-ed guitars, worth a shot!

Hey Jeff!

i put a Screamin' Demon, JB, the original PAF of course, and now Ihave a Tone Zone in it

These are all pups I had laying around because I dont have the cash to be buying pickups to try out. I figured the TZ would be the fattest of the bunch, and though it is it just not as 'beefy' as it is in basswod bodies

Im gonna throw a 500k in it tonight just for giggles and see. I do love this guitar and its playability (you should know )...I just want it to sound like I want it to

I'd check out the tone control circuit too - that will also have a big affect on the high end. going from 500K to 250K will roll off some highs, even when the knob is on 10.

I was going to snip off the tone control. Think that'll mess anything up?

taking out the tone control will definitely make the guitar brighter

so replace the tone pot with a 500k as well?

 

[John4021]

absolutly,,,,,,,did you change the volume pot?

 

[Rayneman]

Turns out the guitar I was going to trade for has a poplar body...mine is ash. Both are EBMM Silhouettes.

I have tried a few pups in my ash silo and each time it still sounds thin, bright and lacking 'fatness'. Today I called EBMM and found out that the silo's come with 250k pots

Maybe a simple switch to a 500k will bring my guitar to life??

I'm still curious about poplar vs ash though

I had John "The Dutchman" up here put a 1meg pot in the San Dimas........meh
Didnt seem to make this big radical differance as he said it would.

Hmm, when he put the big block on the trem and put the one meg pot in, it made a LOT of difference to the San Dimas I had. Very odd.

 

[Lord Toneking]

absolutly,,,,,,,did you change the volume pot?

Didnt have time Worked on tranfering my goodies in my 4 space rack into a 6 space for the awesome wet/dry goodness

You've got to hear this thing dude!

 

[Rayneman]

absolutly,,,,,,,did you change the volume pot?

Didnt have time Worked on tranfering my goodies in my 4 space rack into a 6 space for the awesome wet/dry goodness

You've got to hear this thing dude!

Take your rig to John's...since we know we can, you know, TURN IT UP, there.

 

[Lord Toneking]

absolutly,,,,,,,did you change the volume pot?

Didnt have time Worked on tranfering my goodies in my 4 space rack into a 6 space for the awesome wet/dry goodness

You've got to hear this thing dude!

Take your rig to John's...since we know we can, you know, TURN IT UP, there.

Ahhh yes! There's no shortage of volume there