Power Conditioner's

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nbarts":1wh0ttqt said:
nop, it's just a voltage meter. if you incoming voltage is high or low it won't fix it.
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got the book out for it - if you are looking for a furman that does line level voltage regulating the AC line voltage regulator is an entirely seperate unit in itself.

again - these arent isolated either. conditions the power and prevents large votlage spikes.

to be completely honest i didnt give a rats ass when i've bought it - and with all the places ive used it and with all the extension cords it did just fine - excellent actually. lowest ive seen any place at all was 113V incoming. most was 125V. i dont stare at my amplifier when im playing so just as long as nothing hits it when its on at gigging volumes since i dont mic my cabinet(s) then im fine.

for others who want the extra protection - gotta spend more cash. :rock:
 
Where I am it's varies a lot. I know there are a lot of places where it's pretty consistent. I'm just sharing the info, the rest depends on your needs.
 
nbarts":1xcxq04h said:
Where I am it's varies a lot. I know there are a lot of places where it's pretty consistent. I'm just sharing the info, the rest depends on your needs.
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yeah +1 the unit you use is far superior. i wouldnt mind using it actually - but i dont tour worldwide and i never had a problem with this one so i dont plan on upgrading.

hell, the power switch for this one is still stiff after 5-6 years of use.

but i will say that if i had an expensive piece of gear like a herbert or an eventide or something - i would be looking for isolated voltage outs and line level control as well. that can make all the difference in those units.

-matt
 
Hi guys,

thanks for the info you have provided!

sorry i should i made myself a abit more clearer re the 230/240 v thing.

i wont be going from 120v to 230/240..... i will ONLY be using it for 230/240. what i was wondering was if i brought one in the states, and got it shipped downunder, could i use it. or would i have to buy one here {new zealand, Australia} for it to work.

secondly...what i want this unit most for is to regulate {not sure if thats the right word} the power to my amp. so my amp sounds as best as it could, in all situations. is that what these things do?

Cheers!

Halford
 
halford":3d9tl3qz said:
Hi guys,

thanks for the info you have provided!

sorry i should i made myself a abit more clearer re the 230/240 v thing.

i wont be going from 120v to 230/240..... i will ONLY be using it for 230/240. what i was wondering was if i brought one in the states, and got it shipped downunder, could i use it. or would i have to buy one here {new zealand, Australia} for it to work.

secondly...what i want this unit most for is to regulate {not sure if thats the right word} the power to my amp. so my amp sounds as best as it could, in all situations. is that what these things do?

Cheers!

Halford
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A: if you purchased in the states they wont have 230/240V main's. nothing but electrical housing applianced run at 230/240V here and they even have a different building code and plug requirement to fall under. your best bet is to stay away from anything in the USA purchased new if you need euro voltages for mains.

B: for what you are looking for, again, nbart's suggestion is what you need. you are getting regulated voltages that are also isolated from each other meaning nothing will cause amperage draws across channels. this means no ground loops, and this also means a more effecient power conditioner.

C: that unit he recommended has a $25,000 lifetime guarantee - thats stout.

D: its also a surge protector.

E: setback is $500 but you can run it at 230/240 OR 120V for the states either way. its switchable. you dont want to run 120V with a step up transformer to 230/240 - that will get you there but it will not be an ideal voltage and it wont be clean power by any means. thats a bad idea.

since you want regulated voltages and you NEED 230/240V mains - nbarts suggestion comes out to what i recommend. you are getting alot for your money there. if that is too much of a price to fork out for a power/surge conditioner/protector then find a furman dealer in the UK and order directly from them. also their website will disclose information you need to find what you are looking for in a cheaper price range.

basically what barts said again - just read the specs.

-matt
 
Power conditioners vs voltage regulators, big difference!!

Ideally, you get the voltage regulator as it will make sure your equipment always gets the correct voltage, so even if you only get 200v from the wall socket, it will regulate it to 230v +- some percent. These things ARE expensive. I have an older Furman AR2306 and it's one of the best investments I have ever done.

Furman has this one at the moment: http://www.thomann.de/nl/furman_p_1400_ar_e.htm

Not sure where you live but there's a guy in Holland selling one: http://www.xs4all.nl/~engelen/sale.html
 
yeah voltage regulators are extremely expensive.

thats why i said - nbart's suggestion is $500 and does the same thing at nearly a 1/3 of the price of that furman unit.

plus it can be switched from 120V input from the wall to 220/240V input from the wall. :rock:

its the most for your money. but that furman votlage regulator does look fantastic :D
 
AWSOME matt! thanks for spelling it out to me like that!

Got enought info now to go see whats up

Thanks for the info also lordriffenstein!

Thanks for everyones help.

ONE more thing... matt, what does your unit do then? everything else but regulate the voltage?

you said in your first post "it will allow the power transformers to run at designed spec and also keep the amplifier a little quieter as well from AC noise." thats what i want mine to be able to do. does yours regulate the power? so thats why im a bit confused! sorry :scared:

cheers!
Halford
 
Just an FYI with surge protects and power conditioners. Any that use MOVs for surge protection will wear out. The prevailing wisdom is that at about 5 years the MOVs should be replaced or the unite replaced.

To get voltage regulation (which most people should not need) you need to get the $400 Furman unit. Even it only adjusts the transformer tap used in more extreme conditions.

If you get a power conditioner, get one with a votage readout, its nice to know what the wall is putting out.
 
Sorry to bring this back, but i have a question.

Where i live we have 220v so i have to use an adapter 110-220 when playing my amp (Carvin Legacy atm, Soldano Avenger soon). I recently found out that Furman makes a PL-8 that works with 220/240. My question is... is this the one to get?

Currently i go amp > 110-220 adapter > electricity.

Could i replace the adapter and use the Furman PL-8e so i could go:

amp > Furman PL-8e > electricity ?

Or i still'd need the 110-220 adapter?

Thanks a lot.
 
nbarts":3ly5nf3x said:
You still need the adapter.
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Thanks, thats what i needed to know.


So itd go:

amp > adapter > PL-8e > electricity.


Itd be the same if i go:

amp > regular 110v PL-8 > adapter > electricity ???
 
Yep.

You probably wanna use the furman between your amp & adapter though, to kinda protect it, just make sure your adapter can handle the load you are connecting to it. That's just my common sense, but you should talk to an electrician & see which option is safer.
 
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