Proof there is a God

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VonBonfire said:
There are more orthodox than protestants worldwide. So much for your "cult".
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Sorry man, all I’m saying is anyone using Holy writ to imply we eat Jesus actual body, pray to Mary and Hold to her sinlessness is in a cult. It’s not Holy writ
 
MontiCristo said:
Correct the word “trinity” is not found, however it’s very clear all 3 persons are present at Christs baptism and other places.
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Not clear to everyone. It's an interpretation that you believe is the correct one.
 
acceptance said:
Not clear to everyone. It's an interpretation that you believe is the correct one.
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Hmmmm. Not really bro. All three are there.

Dove Descends - spirit
Father says this is my son in whom I’m well pleased. Jesus is baptized.
 
MontiCristo said:
Ok show us in the text where Mary was sinless?
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Show me in the text where she wasn't. Sola Scriptura is another heresy that was condemned hundreds of years ago and that's what you are trying to use to justify your points. Every point you will try to make tonight has already been addressed ages ago so you're reduced to picking and choosing which ecumenical councils you'll agree with and which ones you'll deny because protestantism is choose your own adventure christianity.
 
VonBonfire said:
Show me in the text where she wasn't. Sola Scriptura is another heresy that was condemned hundreds of years ago and that's what you are trying to use to justify your points. Every point you will try to make tonight has already been addressed ages ago so you're reduced to picking and choosing which ecumenical councils you'll agree with and which ones you'll deny because protestantism is choose your own adventure christianity.
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Simple


Romans 3:23

23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,




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VonBonfire said:
Show me in the text where she wasn't. Sola Scriptura is another heresy that was condemned hundreds of years ago and that's what you are trying to use to justify your points. Every point you will try to make tonight has already been addressed ages ago so you're reduced to picking and choosing which ecumenical councils you'll agree with and which ones you'll deny because protestantism is choose your own adventure christianity.
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Mary was not sinless. Read Mary's song in Luke. She described God as her savior. If she was sinless she wouldn't need saving.
 
MontiCristo said:
Sorry man, all I’m saying is anyone using Holy writ to imply we eat Jesus actual body, pray to Mary and Hold to her sinlessness is in a cult. It’s not Holy writ
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I already addressed intercession vs praying. Sounds like you don't have much traction in the discussion, which is true, since protestantism and all it's falsehoods have been roundly condemned for centuries.
 
The whole Mary was sinless thing is a complete absurdity. That was the whole point of Jesus' life and what qualified him to be our saviour.
 
Thumbpicker said:
Mary was not sinless. Read Mary's song in Luke. She described God as her savior. If she was sinless she wouldn't need saving.
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Correct she and Joseph also offered sacrifices. Why if they weren’t sinful?

Luke 2:22-26


22 And when the days for their cleansing according to the Law of Moses were fulfilled, they brought Him up to Jerusalem to present Him to the Lord
 
Thumbpicker said:
The whole Mary was sinless thing is a complete absurdity. That was the whole point of Jesus' life and what qualified him to be our saviour.
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So the son of God was born to some random, sinful woman? This is why protestants are losing members. Not even an iota of respect for the very mother of their God. The bible says she was full of grace. Jewish law...responsibility for your actions starts at 12 years of age for girls, 13 for boys. She was 13 when Christ was conceived so she lived one year without sin. It's entirely possible.
 
MontiCristo said:
Correct she and Joseph also offered sacrifices. Why if they weren’t sinful?
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To fulfill Jewish law. Why did Christ and his parent's attend Passover if he was the true passover lamb? Because it was jewish law. Why was Christ undoubtedly circumcised?
 
VonBonfire said:
So the son of God was born to some random, sinful woman? This is why protestants are losing members. Not even an iota of respect for the very mother of their God. The bible says she was full of grace. Jewish law...responsibility for your actions starts at 12 years of age for girls, 13 for boys. She was 13 when Christ was conceived so she lived one year without sin. It's entirely possible.
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But the Bible never says she was sinless.
You are making that up.
It’s isogesis not exogesis.

And the reason your camp is gaining numbers is because your crew continues to appeal to the masses by embracing homosexuality and abortion.

As for me and my house we will serve the Lord, not mary
 
The Bible says Mary was full of God's grace... That's very different to being sinless.
 
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