Purchased the 78/79 package from IK multimedia, UPDATE 7/4/25

[RevDrucifer]

I can’t assist with troubleshooting issues but wanted to note that @dead-pan’s JEL cap pack is fucking KILLER!!! I have the Satch Amp Vault and I’d imagine the majority around these parts would dig that Dragon amp, too.

For my first foray into the capture/profile world I was quite impressed with how well the tones work as well as how much you could actually tweak them (ToneX caps in general). There’s enough tweakability to get them sitting in a mix if need be and that’s really all I want from this particular product.

 

[mentoneman]

Don't you play a lot of older rack gear? That stuff is far worse than this. I spent like 20 minutes the other night clicking through buttons with a tiny LCD display trying to figure out how to get my MPX-1 to ping pong a delay.

the lexicon pcm 80 was a lot to take in initially for sure. but now i navigate that thing very quickly.

i’m getting better on the tonex menus but i’m finding that if i have the pedal connected to my computer with the editor/librarian running and i edit and store a preset using the 78/79 collection, either by hitting save on the edit window screen or physically on the pedal, when i power down and turn back on the presets i thought i saved in the pedal seems to change and sound radically different. and i’ve now experienced buggy stuff in the tonex app not giving me access to all of the 78/79 collection i purchased even with a Sweetwater support guy remoting in, the tonex editor/librarian app not properly reflecting the changes made and stored when dragging a new preset into a bank/slot, and witnessing my pedal while connected to my computer spontaneously scroll to a parameter and make changes to values with me not touching a thing—
i.e. sitting there playing with headphones on, i see pedal jump to volume parameter and ramp up to 10 by itself. that’d be special live!

re: volumes,
i’m still not fully grasping global trim volume versus model volume versus master volume.
and re: how to properly build my own preset library backup in the tonex app and/or editor-library app, it’d be nice if tonex would auto ask at the end of an edit session when closing the app if you’d like to save a backup of changes made to your pedal presets in a file you can save as/name, but i’ll get there.

what did become apparent to me is how remarkably similar the 78/79 presets sound once i edited a few i liked to my to preferences,
to my rack rig’s existing VH preset using wayne’s @griff10672 Atomic Punk Overdrive to drive my egnater IE4 preamp channel 3.

the rack sounds better to me because tubes real speaker cabs and superior fx, but having something close in a pedal i can jam on headphones with or take to a friend’s place is nice.

 

[harddriver]

the lexicon pcm 80 was a lot to take in initially for sure. but now i navigate that thing very quickly.

i’m getting better on the tonex menus but i’m finding that if i have the pedal connected to my computer with the editor/librarian running and i edit and store a preset using the 78/79 collection, either by hitting save on the edit window screen or physically on the pedal, when i power down and turn back on the presets i thought i saved in the pedal seems to change and sound radically different. and i’ve now experienced buggy stuff in the tonex app not giving me access to all of the 78/79 collection i purchased even with a Sweetwater support guy remoting in, the tonex editor/librarian app not properly reflecting the changes made and stored when dragging a new preset into a bank/slot, and witnessing my pedal while connected to my computer spontaneously scroll to a parameter and make changes to values with me not touching a thing—
i.e. sitting there playing with headphones on, i see pedal jump to volume parameter and ramp up to 10 by itself. that’d be special live!

re: volumes,
i’m still not fully grasping global trim volume versus model volume versus master volume.
and re: how to properly build my own preset library backup in the tonex app and/or editor-library app, it’d be nice if tonex would auto ask at the end of an edit session when closing the app if you’d like to save a backup of changes made to your pedal presets in a file you can save as/name, but i’ll get there.

what did become apparent to me is how remarkably similar the 78/79 presets sound once i edited a few i liked to my to preferences,
to my rack rig’s existing VH preset using wayne’s @griff10672 Atomic Punk Overdrive to drive my egnater IE4 preamp channel 3.

the rack sounds better to me because tubes real speaker cabs and superior fx, but having something close in a pedal i can jam on headphones with or take to a friend’s place is nice.

You don't have access to the 50 captures..........WTF?????? I am fairly certain I have access to them all and played them all, there are a few that are room mics that show PENCIL mics or something like that in the details description window on the lower left side, those will sound distant and thin that's why. I guess you can blend room mics in to the standard mic'd stuff for the advanced cyber studio guy going for a full on studio experience.............

Hell............I'd just be happy to get my interface controller booted up and connected to the ToneXSE.......
I'd piss on a spark plug if I thought it would do any good...............

 

[mentoneman]

You don't have access to the 50 captures..........WTF?????? I am fairly certain I have access to them all and played them all, there are a few that are room mics that show PENCIL mics or something like that in the details description window on the lower left side, those will sound distant and thin that's why. I guess you can blend room mics in to the standard mic'd stuff for the advanced cyber studio guy going for a full on studio experience.............

Hell............I'd just be happy to get my interface controller booted up and connected to the ToneXSE.......
I'd piss on a spark plug if I thought it would do any good...............

the editor/librarian connected to the pedal allows me access to all 50.

but when i am just running the tonex app, i can see all 50 presets but can only fully access about half of them. weird.

 

[Shask]

the editor/librarian connected to the pedal allows me access to all 50.

but when i am just running the tonex app, i can see all 50 presets but can only fully access about half of them. weird.

It just didn't download the images for the models. You need to have it install the images for the amps. You might try to reinstall ToneX and see if that helps. At some point when you start the program it should you to download the GUI skins.

 

[Shask]

the lexicon pcm 80 was a lot to take in initially for sure. but now i navigate that thing very quickly.

i’m getting better on the tonex menus but i’m finding that if i have the pedal connected to my computer with the editor/librarian running and i edit and store a preset using the 78/79 collection, either by hitting save on the edit window screen or physically on the pedal, when i power down and turn back on the presets i thought i saved in the pedal seems to change and sound radically different. and i’ve now experienced buggy stuff in the tonex app not giving me access to all of the 78/79 collection i purchased even with a Sweetwater support guy remoting in, the tonex editor/librarian app not properly reflecting the changes made and stored when dragging a new preset into a bank/slot, and witnessing my pedal while connected to my computer spontaneously scroll to a parameter and make changes to values with me not touching a thing—
i.e. sitting there playing with headphones on, i see pedal jump to volume parameter and ramp up to 10 by itself. that’d be special live!

re: volumes,
i’m still not fully grasping global trim volume versus model volume versus master volume.
and re: how to properly build my own preset library backup in the tonex app and/or editor-library app, it’d be nice if tonex would auto ask at the end of an edit session when closing the app if you’d like to save a backup of changes made to your pedal presets in a file you can save as/name, but i’ll get there.

what did become apparent to me is how remarkably similar the 78/79 presets sound once i edited a few i liked to my to preferences,
to my rack rig’s existing VH preset using wayne’s @griff10672 Atomic Punk Overdrive to drive my egnater IE4 preamp channel 3.

the rack sounds better to me because tubes real speaker cabs and superior fx, but having something close in a pedal i can jam on headphones with or take to a friend’s place is nice.

Generally when I see issues like this it is because people are switching back and forth between the ToneX application and the ToneX pedal without understanding the relationship between them. I would recommend throwing the pedal in a drawer and not messing with it until you understand the ToneX app. Once you have your sounds in the app, you just drag them onto the pedal without further editing.

 

[mentoneman]

Generally when I see issues like this it is because people are switching back and forth between the ToneX application and the ToneX pedal without understanding the relationship between them. I would recommend throwing the pedal in a drawer and not messing with it until you understand the ToneX app. Once you have your sounds in the app, you just drag them onto the pedal without further editing.

i’d try that but i’m using the pedal to interface with my computer.

 

[Shask]

i’d try that but i’m using the pedal to interface with my computer.

If you are using it as your interface, then I would only use the editor to put it in interface mode, and then forget it is a pedal. Only use it as an interface for the ToneX app. Figure out tone models vs presets, and user folders before thinking about putting the sounds on the pedal.