Recomend me 7-string

[EOT]

Ibanez has plenty Mahogany outside the RG series. RGA, K7, Apex, AR, S-series... Look a little harder.

True. But he's also looking at 26.5" scale. I haven't kept up with a lot of newer guitars. Do they make any in mahogany with the 26.5" scale?

 

[EnGl]

Ibanez has plenty Mahogany outside the RG series. RGA, K7, Apex, AR, S-series... Look a little harder.

True. But he's also looking at 26.5" scale. I haven't kept up with a lot of newer guitars. Do they make any in mahogany with the 26.5" scale?

Mahogany is not necessary.
It can be also maple , ash , alder , basswood(?).
The major factor is tremolo.

And :
-I don't want to buy korean/indonesian/china guitar for this money(about 1500 bucks).
-I rather don't want to buy signature , I know that large price percentage is just sig on guitar head.

And from what I've found - the Ibanez from my first post probably will do the trick. Probably - just because I'm afraid of this basswood cause I have never touch a guitar from this wood.
As my predecessor said - Maybe Ibanez use basswood just because this is "cheap" wood ? Look at the guitars from low price tag (200 buck more or less) - almost many of them are from basswood.

 

[dooredge]

I own an Apex so I'm well aware there's mahogany outside of the RG series.

As far as I know the RGD is the only 26.5" scale guitar Ibanez offers; in Basswood of course.

MaxOfMetal (a sevenstring.org moderator), who knows just about everything about Ibanez, said this about Basswood:

"It sounds good.
It's very consistent.
It's lightweight.
It's economic.
It's widely available.
It's what Steve (Vai) and Mace (Bailey) decided would work best for the JEM/RG series in 86'. "

"Basswood has very strong mids and somewhat subdued highs and lows, that makes it very great for cutting leads through the mix, or even rhythms with the proper pickups. You'll find a lot of lead players choosing Basswood, such as Vai, Satch, Petrucci, etc."

If it ain't broke don't fix it!

 

[EnGl]

I own an Apex so I'm well aware there's mahogany outside of the RG series.

As far as I know the RGD is the only 26.5" scale guitar Ibanez offers; in Basswood of course.

MaxOfMetal (a sevenstring.org moderator), who knows just about everything about Ibanez, said this about Basswood:

"It sounds good.
It's very consistent.
It's lightweight.
It's economic.
It's widely available.
It's what Steve (Vai) and Mace (Bailey) decided would work best for the JEM/RG series in 86'. "

"Basswood has very strong mids and somewhat subdued highs and lows, that makes it very great for cutting leads through the mix, or even rhythms with the proper pickups. You'll find a lot of lead players choosing Basswood, such as Vai, Satch, Petrucci, etc."

If it ain't broke don't fix it!

Thank you man, really appreciate this.
Anyway Satch , Petrucci or Vai are not my cup of tea.
But recently I'm rather a lead played than riffmaker so maybe basswood will be ok for me.

Other thing : Which pickups will you recommend me ?
I want something passive just because this guitar has passive and I don't know that AP will fit the size and holes.
I thought about something from Bare Knuckle pickups but I don't know them very well. Oh , and I'm rather interested only in bridge pickup.
I will try to find this axe in nearest shop just to touch it and play for a while and I will know if this axe is for me.
I'm searching for pickup that will help me cut through mix and also I want smooth and pleasant sounding lead tones , tight and huge bass and warm midrange.
Scott Ian guitar part from "I am the Law" , Marty Friedman solo fragments from Bad D.N.A. - If searched pickup can give me this type of sound - I'm in heaven.

 

[dooredge]

Says, Max:

RGD2127Z is the only 26.5" scale Ibanez 7-string ever released

Pickup suggestions from users on ss.org for Bassword are:

DiMarzio D-Activator - https://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessor ... ker-pickup

BKP Warpig - http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/sho ... cts_id=229

Seymour Duncan Full Shred - https://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessor ... c=3WWRWXGP

If you wanted to go active you could get the Seymour Duncan Blackout Phase I (fits passive p/up route) - https://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessor ... dge-pickup


Glad to help you out, EnGl. Happy jamming!

 

[EnGl]

Says, Max:

RGD2127Z is the only 26.5" scale Ibanez 7-string ever released

Pickup suggestions from users on ss.org for Bassword are:

DiMarzio D-Activator - https://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessor ... ker-pickup

BKP Warpig - http://www.bareknucklepickups.co.uk/sho ... cts_id=229

Seymour Duncan Full Shred - https://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessor ... c=3WWRWXGP

If you wanted to go active you could get the Seymour Duncan Blackout Phase I (fits passive p/up route) - https://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessor ... dge-pickup


Glad to help you out, EnGl. Happy jamming!

Damn , thanks man !


Can you tell me one more thing :
This is true that basswood is veeery weak for tremolo systems ? This Ibanez from my first post has Edge bridge and as you know this is tremolo.
I know that basswood is very fragile , this is not problem for me because I take care for my guitar very well but you know ... I don't the situation while divebomb my bridge will suddenly get out from the wood or something , you know what i mean.

 

[dooredge]

Nah man, you're good. It would be all over these types of gear forums if people were snapping their tremolos off basswood guitars. Remember Steve Vai is a tremolo wanking nut...if he isn't snapping tremolos off his basswood JEM's I think you'll be ok!

 

[EnGl]

Nah man, you're good. It would be all over these types of gear forums if people were snapping their tremolos off basswood guitars. Remember Steve Vai is a tremolo wanking nut...if he isn't snapping tremolos off his basswood JEM's I think you'll be ok!

Thanks man.
I think I will get this Ibby , This schecter Loomis is also very appealing but ... MIK and only Floyd Rose 1000.

 

[PBGas]

I've had many Ibanez 7 strings over the years. I've found that they were all good and were unique in some ways. That being said, I currently have one of these Premium 927's
[urlhttp://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/eg_page12.phparea_id=2&data_id=336&color=CL01&year=2012&cat_id=1&series_id=72[/url]

Don't be worried at all about the Indonesian build. That is a myth with the Premium models. It's absolutely fantastic and works great! I have a couple of newer J Customs to compare with so I have a decent sense of things if they are junk. These are not. The bridge works great. The only thing I changed out were the stock pickups with some Dimarzio Blaze units. Other than that, it is a great guitar!

The 2127z you were looking at is also a beautiful instrument. Never be worried about the Edge Zero bridge. It plays and stays in tune extremely well. All of the Edge zero guitars come with locking studs at the bridge to prevent any wobble.

Good luck with your choice and enjoy!

 

[EOT]

I can confirm that the basswood will not have any issues handling trem abuse. I used to be quite hard on my 7620's trem and the only issues with it are that the knife edges have some wear.

The Ibanez's are usually really good guitars so I'm sure you'll be pleased with one. Definitely check one out if you can. There's a reason they're popular.

The Loomis is also a very solid guitar. The trem is an OFR. Which, in many peoples opinion, is the best version of the Floyd. The only thing I wasn't super fond of was the inlays. But in terms of playability and tone it's a great guitar. It does have EMG's though.

 

[EnGl]

I can confirm that the basswood will not have any issues handling trem abuse. I used to be quite hard on my 7620's trem and the only issues with it are that the knife edges have some wear.

The Ibanez's are usually really good guitars so I'm sure you'll be pleased with one. Definitely check one out if you can. There's a reason they're popular.

The Loomis is also a very solid guitar. The trem is an OFR. Which, in many peoples opinion, is the best version of the Floyd. The only thing I wasn't super fond of was the inlays. But in terms of playability and tone it's a great guitar. It does have EMG's though.

Nope , currently this Schecter has Floyd Rose 1000 series
http://www.schecterguitars.com/Internat ... is-FR.aspx


Well this Schecter may be good but this is Korean guitar so you know ... It will be hard to find well built axe.

 

[nevusofota]

Best playing 7 i tried. That and i my UV777GR, the green one....That one is just wow but really hard to get.

The 1527 with maple neck is quite easy to find and not to hard on the wallet.

Chris

These used to be easy to find. I've been looking for one for the past 6 months and haven't come across one.

 

[EOT]

Nope , currently this Schecter has Floyd Rose 1000 series
http://www.schecterguitars.com/Internat ... is-FR.aspx


Well this Schecter may be good but this is Korean guitar so you know ... It will be hard to find well built axe.

Hmm. I didn't know they had changed the trems on them. I did mention I haven't been keeping up the new production guitars right?

I'm sure it's probably still a pretty solid axe. But that Ibanez may be your best bet.

 

[EnGl]

Ok , I think I will pick this guitar.


And about BK Warpig - I should take with or without the cover ? There is any difference in sound ? Because the cover cost additional 20 pounds.
And It will be better to take alnico or ceramic magnet ?

 

[dooredge]

Hey dude, no difference in sound as far as the cover goes.

The difference in sound would come down to alnico vs. ceramic.

Alnico = warmer, smoother, rounder, more organic.
Ceramic = colder, tighter, more bite & aggression.

 

[crankyrayhanky]

Nah man, you're good. It would be all over these types of gear forums if people were snapping their tremolos off basswood guitars. Remember Steve Vai is a tremolo wanking nut...if he isn't snapping tremolos off his basswood JEM's I think you'll be ok!

I actually heard that Vai went through guitars like hair spray, particularly back in the late 80s early 90s....many broken guitars split under the fury of his wanking

Around 92 or so Ibanez improved the designs on the RGs to help avoid this issue...I'm sure you'll be fine, but just a note that the guitars are not indestructible...I floyded a late 80's guitar hard for 2 years and busted it...that was a great guitar

 

[dooredge]

I actually heard that Vai went through guitars like hair spray, particularly back in the late 80s early 90s....many broken guitars split under the fury of his wanking

 

[Ventura]

I'm still waiting for ESP to bring out there NT-7 with passives and stock routing. That guitar would knock everything else out of the picture - it's not a Korean sidekick, it's not a bolt-on, ESP's quality kicks ass, it's not LTD, I love the feeling of the FR and NT guitars, it's not a Steph Carpenter...

Jesus people (as in, the cats at ESP) - is it THAT hard to make the NT-7 a passive pup axe and sell it to the public?!?!?!

Drives me nuts.

 

[EnGl]

I'm still waiting for ESP to bring out there NT-7 with passives and stock routing. That guitar would knock everything else out of the picture - it's not a Korean sidekick, it's not a bolt-on, ESP's quality kicks ass, it's not LTD, I love the feeling of the FR and NT guitars, it's not a Steph Carpenter...

Jesus people (as in, the cats at ESP) - is it THAT hard to make the NT-7 a passive pup axe and sell it to the public?!?!?!

Drives me nuts.

Yeah , I'm partially also confused by this. But I prefer the Sanskirt

Another question.

I know what is the situation on the 6 string with tremolo.
But It will be better for 7 string guitar to have TOM or NT construction ? You know , additional string ... For example I haven't found any 8 string guitar with tremolo - at least the mass produced guitars.

 

[midnightlaundry]

You really can't go wrong with an Ibanez. Although they're cookie cutter cheap, they're cheap to be had. The necks aren't uber fat like a Schecter, and the selector switch is in the Fender position if you switch pickups a lot.

Get a cheap model, and put in some good pickups, That way you won't be out a lot of money if you decide a 7 is not for you.