Recomend me 7-string

  • Thread starter Thread starter EnGl
  • Start date Start date
a friend swears by the RGD series, having tried them out i'd agree, even the stock pickups sound great, easy to play and look awesome

for the price , very nice guitars
 
EnGl":33oiuh7i said:
Another question.

I know what is the situation on the 6 string with tremolo.
But It will be better for 7 string guitar to have TOM or NT construction ? You know , additional string ... For example I haven't found any 8 string guitar with tremolo - at least the mass produced guitars.

I don't find it any more to set up a 7 string trem than a 6. As far as whether or not the extra string causes any issues on a trem. No..

Also, I just found another guitar for you to check out...
http://www.jacksonguitars.com/products/ ... 2916271521

I didn't know Jackson was making 26.5" 7's that were affordable :rock:
 
EOT":bqwv35ur said:
EnGl":bqwv35ur said:
Another question.

I know what is the situation on the 6 string with tremolo.
But It will be better for 7 string guitar to have TOM or NT construction ? You know , additional string ... For example I haven't found any 8 string guitar with tremolo - at least the mass produced guitars.

I don't find it any more to set up a 7 string trem than a 6. As far as whether or not the extra string causes any issues on a trem. No..

Also, I just found another guitar for you to check out...
http://www.jacksonguitars.com/products/ ... 2916271521

I didn't know Jackson was making 26.5" 7's that were affordable :rock:

Thanks man , this Jackson looks very sexy.

I know that Ibanez is not a new company , I know this can be a lame question but ... how about the wood quality ? They put in guitars good wood ? You know , I think that the wood is the most important factor and straight behind are other things, you can alwayds change the bridge , keys , frets , electronics but if you want to change the wood - well , you must buy another guitar :D
Especially I'm interested what is the quality of wood in the higher models (guitar from my first post) an others.
 
Heres my experience with 7 strings. A year back I bought a RG1527 in galaxy black and I really really dig it except for the trem. Don't get me wrong I love me an Edge Pro I have them on my 6 strings, the one on the 7 works brilliantly as is to be expected of hardware of this quality. It just feels heavier in use due to all the extra tension and also due to new springs that need some abuse to wear in. The main issue was that I found that I wanted to change tunings a bit too often and the work required to rebalance everything was not appreciated, especially as most of the time I wanted to play with tunings was spur of the moment things and sadly the trem would get in the way of the creative process...not good. That said all the prestige Ibanez that I've tried in stores and I own 2 (Rg3720, RG1527) have been fantastic quality and I cant fault them.

Recently auqired a custom 7 built by a nice fella in Sussex called Steve Mercer. I specced a fixed bridge for this one and I have to say its fitting the bill a lot more than the Ibby just due to the fact I have more freedom with tunings. I can highly recommend Bare Knuckles as I had an Aftermath installed in the bridge and a Cold Sweat in the neck and god damn they are great sounding pickups. I just don't think anyone can go wrong with barknuckles now I've played them. Aftermath is tighter than I imagined would be possible and had a lot less low end than I imagined they would have, considering the drop A flat tuning I'm using mostly it copes remarkably well especially with big 7 string chords. The entire range shines through with all strings clearly audible regardless of the gain involved and never any sign of mud. I've had quite a few pickups from Dimarzio, Duncan and EMG over the years and none of these coped with the string separation nearly as well. Cold Sweat is just great for clean and lead work, very woody almost hollow sounding but it never turns to mud

During the process of deciding what pickups to use I posed the question to Tim at Bareknuckle regarding the effect of covers and he says there is a difference, however slight, in the top end where there's just a little less high end sizzle when covered and a slight reduction in output.

As for current production models the new ESP whitechapel guitars look tasty as do the New Jackson Slat-X's and as mentioned above the Ibanez prestige line. I'd really want to try a Slat if I was considering those as I heard they are being produced in a new factory in India and the first few that came onto market had some issues, also emgs so not so much felxability if you wanted a change at some point
 
Halikus":a41opa23 said:
Heres my experience with 7 strings. A year back I bought a RG1527 in galaxy black and I really really dig it except for the trem. Don't get me wrong I love me an Edge Pro I have them on my 6 strings, the one on the 7 works brilliantly as is to be expected of hardware of this quality. It just feels heavier in use due to all the extra tension and also due to new springs that need some abuse to wear in. The main issue was that I found that I wanted to change tunings a bit too often and the work required to rebalance everything was not appreciated, especially as most of the time I wanted to play with tunings was spur of the moment things and sadly the trem would get in the way of the creative process...not good. That said all the prestige Ibanez that I've tried in stores and I own 2 (Rg3720, RG1527) have been fantastic quality and I cant fault them.

Recently auqired a custom 7 built by a nice fella in Sussex called Steve Mercer. I specced a fixed bridge for this one and I have to say its fitting the bill a lot more than the Ibby just due to the fact I have more freedom with tunings. I can highly recommend Bare Knuckles as I had an Aftermath installed in the bridge and a Cold Sweat in the neck and god damn they are great sounding pickups. I just don't think anyone can go wrong with barknuckles now I've played them. Aftermath is tighter than I imagined would be possible and had a lot less low end than I imagined they would have, considering the drop A flat tuning I'm using mostly it copes remarkably well especially with big 7 string chords. The entire range shines through with all strings clearly audible regardless of the gain involved and never any sign of mud. I've had quite a few pickups from Dimarzio, Duncan and EMG over the years and none of these coped with the string separation nearly as well. Cold Sweat is just great for clean and lead work, very woody almost hollow sounding but it never turns to mud

During the process of deciding what pickups to use I posed the question to Tim at Bareknuckle regarding the effect of covers and he says there is a difference, however slight, in the top end where there's just a little less high end sizzle when covered and a slight reduction in output.

As for current production models the new ESP whitechapel guitars look tasty as do the New Jackson Slat-X's and as mentioned above the Ibanez prestige line. I'd really want to try a Slat if I was considering those as I heard they are being produced in a new factory in India and the first few that came onto market had some issues, also emgs so not so much felxability if you wanted a change at some point


Thank you so much !
Yeah , I really want 7 string now , I want to walk into new territory and lick other guitar.
And I looked also on this Jackson but as you mentioned - MII , for this money I would expected something from MIJ.

Some nice guy few posts back posted recomended pickups for basswood built 7 string. I really considered Warpig and maybe Dimarzio blaze(I heard that this pickup was designed especially for 7 string). Can you recommend me something other for basswood (something from BKP).
And other :
I know that this Ibby is factory equipped with a idiotic low gauge for A standard ( 10-54 or something). I want to stay in this tuning Cause I'm know D standard (currently drop c) so it will be the same only with additional A string. It will be okay If I will change the A string for something much thicker ? I mean 66, maybe 68 for A. ONLY this one string , I guess the other strings are 10-13-17-26-36-46 so it will be ok for me.
 
My 2 cents in this...

Ibby's have bolt on necks, which I don't like.
Whitechapel gutiars from ESP are LTD Koreans.
The Jackson looks hot, but again, it's active pupped.

I like the string thru design of the NTs. Just want it in passive format and I'd STFU :lol: :LOL:
 
V I get you on the passive front, during my search for my second 7 so many of the available options are EMG equipped which ruled them out totally for me sheerly due to the fact I think EMG should stop with the stupid oversize routes, there's just no need for it.

My Ibanez came out the factory with 9-54 d'addarios which is fine if you like a light gauge and you stick to standard. I however don't stick to standard and am currently using 10-56 hybrid set with a 62 for the low B and have no issues whatsoever.

As for pickup recommendations il need to know a few things before I can make any suggestions.

What kind of music will you be playing? what amp are you running? What kind of tone is your cup of tea? modern/vintage vibe?
 
Halikus":264x8j8o said:
V I get you on the passive front, during my search for my second 7 so many of the available options are EMG equipped which ruled them out totally for me sheerly due to the fact I think EMG should stop with the stupid oversize routes, there's just no need for it.

My Ibanez came out the factory with 9-54 d'addarios which is fine if you like a light gauge and you stick to standard. I however don't stick to standard and am currently using 10-56 hybrid set with a 62 for the low B and have no issues whatsoever.

As for pickup recommendations il need to know a few things before I can make any suggestions.

What kind of music will you be playing? what amp are you running? What kind of tone is your cup of tea? modern/vintage vibe?

My current amp is only my practice amp- Blackstar ht5h. I can get nice toanz from it. But in near future ( after I buy 7 string) I want to buy something from ENGL (Savage , Invader(?)) or maybe 5150II/6505+. My cab is ENGL 2x12 Pro ( with V30).
You know currently I am very inspired by Zakk Wylde , Dime and Marty Friedman. If you ask what kind of music - Metal music as you see.
And as I said before - I know there is a bunch of BKP , I don't want which I should choose.
 
Hmm, Zack is an EMG man, Dime used silly high output custom buckers and Marty is a JB man so a bit of a range there. I would look at the blackhawk, miracle man, nailbomb and warpig. If you fancy a slightly lower gain pickup try a VHII. Blackhawk and Miracle man both kinda go for the active sound from a passive, however the miracle man is more scooped out than the Blackhawk. Nailbomb is interesting as its kind of a best of both worlds,its got some of the vintage woody qualities I like with a nice modern edge to it especially with the ceramic option. Warpig is geared for metal but has an extreme output which may not work well with whatever amp you buy, I didn't dig it through my Einstein which likes lower output pickups generally but it was rather awesome played through my buddy's JCM800 and pushed it into a really nice sweet spot.

If I'm being honest I think the best idea is to get a 7, put up with the stock pickups for a while till you get the amp sorted as I find pickups are best chosen when you know the amp and guitar and know what you want to change. Maybe its a bit more output to drive the front of the amp or maybe a bit less bass to clear the low end up, whatever the case I think you will end up with a better rig more suited to your particular needs if you do it this way.
 
Agree man , If I will keep a stock pickups , buy new amp - I will certainly know a capability of my tone and then I start searching matching pickup.
Thank you so much , and of course - the rest.

What about the bigger gauge for A (B) string ? Can I just put a far bigger string than factory equipped ? The stock is 59 , I think that 68 or 70 will be ok but this gauge will fit the saddles and nut ?
 
Back
Top