stephen sawall
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Congratulations ..... 
Great amp
Great amp
gibson08
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I see you already ordered, with your other list of amps I was going to suggest looking at Channing amps, COOL stuff. I am sure what you ordered will do the job!!
lolzgreg
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Thanks for the continued suggestions. I will post clips when I get this little monster.
lolzgreg
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The VOX AC15H1TV I got had to go back because all the tubes were microphonic and were tinkering right through the speaker.
If the one I get to replace it also has issues, I'm giving up on the amp.
Soundwise, it was pretty damn awesome, but I can't afford to buy a new amp that has crapped out so soon.
If the one I get to replace it also has issues, I'm giving up on the amp.
Soundwise, it was pretty damn awesome, but I can't afford to buy a new amp that has crapped out so soon.
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CaseyCor
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Wow, that's awful man. You should get a new amp and a partial refund for that.lolzgreg":2hgjn9aq said:
lolzgreg
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Check your PMs.
lolzgreg
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CaseyCor":192olw94 said:
I sent you a message regarding this, but you never got back to me.
What's doing?
-Greg
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CaseyCor
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Oh man, I apologize, I forgot all about that.lolzgreg":1jodz4bi said:
I was thinking about the concept of tone being "in the fingers", and had an idea for an experiment to prove/disprove it using Re-Amping. Create a simple song that includes a multitude of standard techniques (Open Chords, Power Chords, and a simple single note melody) in GuitarPro, and have a handful of players record the same track with an DI right in. Re-Amp the tracks though the same amp with the same settings, and compare results
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CaseyCor
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Obviosly there are more factors that need to be controlled to make it a solid experiment, but doing at least the outline posted above would prove the point to some extent. We could also group the files together by guitar type/tonewood/pickups/string guage/cable brand/ect.. in order to not only accurately compare desire, but examine the differences in equipment and the individual playing technique used.
gibson08
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That sucks!! Heres hoping the next one turns out ok. Hey if it does not work out, look into those Channing amps I mentioned.lolzgreg":3gbitd0x said:
lolzgreg
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CaseyCor":1bblazxh said:
When I reamp, the first thing I do is reamp through the Dual Recitfier. If it doesn't sound good through the Recto, the player isn't top notch. That's my rule of thumb. Rectifiers are NOT forgiving. If you have bad technique, your mutes will sound like flub, and your picking will be scratchy and nasty as death. Tone is definitely in the fingers first, and the pickups second
JakeAC5253
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CaseyCor":3nyxppjc said:
You'd be surprised at just how similar the same DI sounds reamped through different amps. The same inflection, the same harmonics, the same level of pick attack, whether or not there is mud etc. A buddy of mine can play through my gear with the same exact setup, guitar pedals picks settings and everything, and sound nothing like me on tape. It's actually quite an interesting topic to look into (relatively speaking, to us nerds anyway). I'm not sure if you said you are capable of taking a DI or reamping, but I'm up to the task as well.
Greg, can't wait to hear the VOX!
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CaseyCor
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I think it would be a very cool experiment. I find the concept very interesting, hearing how a multitude of different players sound on the same/similar gear. It could also provide material for tone chasing, as people could hear whatever guitar part is chosen with different guitars (and different amps). Could document the changes in tonal quality between the types of wood used, and the pickups used, to help people make gear choices.
mentoneman
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el84 vox circuit + old alnico bulls + ricky
first thing that jumps to mind
first thing that jumps to mind
degenaro
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All the tubes? You mean all the pre-amp tubes? According to what? Some one needs to give you a crash course in basic amp maintenance. Swapping V1 and V2 would likely have cured the issues, and taken a lot less time then packing it back up.lolzgreg":2uwhkhck said:
glpg80
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degenaro":2a56c332 said:
+1
if i blamed microphonic tubes for every tube amplifier as the reason it was a POS i would have sold my 5150 II long ago.
cannot blame the glass for the amplifier if you expect to own and maintain a tubed amplifier...
blackba
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glpg80":1f5me5z0 said:
+2 Also the EF86 preamp tubes are notorious for poor reliability and microphonics. That is a big reason Vox moved away from them in the 60's and discontinued this model.
Its too bad there were issues right out of the box, but if it were me I would do some tube swapping before I gave up on the amp.
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Cirrus
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Yeah I wouldn't have given up on it so quickly. Think of tubes like lightbulbs. If a bulb goes you don't move house do you? 
I've bought three vox amps with factory fitted tubes and in all three amps the tubes have been crap. You basically have to bank on swapping them right away, but that's no bad thing really because putting some decent glass in your amp is the quickest way to improve its tone, and you can get NOS stuff for not much more expensive than new if you know what you're looking for.
I've bought three vox amps with factory fitted tubes and in all three amps the tubes have been crap. You basically have to bank on swapping them right away, but that's no bad thing really because putting some decent glass in your amp is the quickest way to improve its tone, and you can get NOS stuff for not much more expensive than new if you know what you're looking for.
lolzgreg
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degenaro":331irlpu said:
When you tap a tube lightly with a pencil eraser, and you hear DOING sounds coming out of your speaker, there's a damn good chance your preamp tubes are microphonic. I checked every tube in every position, with very light taps, and clangy sounds were loud and clear coming through the amplifier. This doesn't happen with any other tube amplifier I've owned, and it's obvious that it's a pretty big issue, especially in a combo amplifier. The tube sockets aren't too sturdy either. For a brand new amp, this isn't something I should have to worry about.
I've owned about 13 tube amps in my life, and currently own seven. I have never gotten a new amp with more than one bad tube. I've never had an amp that I had to replace every tube out of the damn box, and I shouldn't have to drop $100 minimum on new glass the second I get an amplifier. Especially when I'm paying $1000 dollars for it.
Second off, if you knew anything about the amp, you would know that V1 is an EF86 tube, and I hate to tell you, but very few people have a box of EF86 tubes stashed in a drawer in their house, Mr. Deganaro. The fact that the EF86 is very prone to microphonics doesn't help either, AND the fact that I checked both the EF86 channel, AND the top boost channel, which does NOT use the EF86 tube, and still had issues.
I asked for replacement tubes from my dealer, and they said that they don't even stock the tube, and they would like me to send back the amplifier.
I got the second one today, and it has the same issues. I'm done playing musical amps with Vox.
mentoneman
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this guy is pretty legendary for tuning up voxes to sound like they should:
http://www.tone-man.com/home.htm
i think he's out by magic mountain..?
vic at mojave is another vintage tone specialist. he blackfaced two of my friend's sf deluxes, brought my old plush 4000G back from the grave, and has serviced at least 5 other PTP amps of friends i know of, to great results.
http://www.tone-man.com/home.htm
i think he's out by magic mountain..?
vic at mojave is another vintage tone specialist. he blackfaced two of my friend's sf deluxes, brought my old plush 4000G back from the grave, and has serviced at least 5 other PTP amps of friends i know of, to great results.