technomancer
Well-known member
"Good enough" is the mantra of modern society. Excellence is irrelevant.
Rob Chapman: "Gear has reached a level where it's good enough." Whaddya think?
CarlF
Well-known member
Rob was more fun when he wore a Kotex on his head
griff10672
Well-known member
Carl's on fire this morning !
Fusionbear
Well-known member
I love my tube amps! But, my FM9T sounds killer too. It's so much easier to deal with in small bars where room for the band is at a premium.
Last Friday's gig:
As you can see, I'm already on the dance floor area. The bass player is right behind me.
I had another guitar player ask me where I hid my amp. He wanted to know what amp it was. He said my tone was killer. His jaw literally dropped when I showed him the FM9T and QSC CP12 setup. He even took pictures of my setup.
Last Friday's gig:
As you can see, I'm already on the dance floor area. The bass player is right behind me.
I had another guitar player ask me where I hid my amp. He wanted to know what amp it was. He said my tone was killer. His jaw literally dropped when I showed him the FM9T and QSC CP12 setup. He even took pictures of my setup.
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CoreyW
New member
I went to digital load boxes around 2017, I absolutely loved the convenience of being able to play my amps in their sweet spots any time of day or night without disturbing the wife or kids.
I tried the Helix family, while it was ok sounding I struggled with getting it to a point to even consider replacing my amps and pedals.
A few months ago I bought an Axe FX3, and was absolutely blown away with just the stock patches. I haven't even bothered to power up any of my amps since I got the Axe.
I do not have the luxury to play my amps though normal cabs with volume like I did when I was younger and single. I am able to power on my Axe and get great tone without disturbing the peace of my house, and my digital rigs are more consistent when moving from place to place. I don't see myself getting rid of my amps because on that rare occasion I can blast them and its great, and I don't want to lose that. Its also pretty cool seeing someone play through a cranked plexi for the first time.
I will say this though after going from analog to hybrid to digital... while it took a little while to get use to not feeling the sound pressure from the cabinets, I have gotten to the point where I really don't understand the amp in the room argument. As soon as you try and transition the sounds coming from the guitar speakers to any other speakers.. the amp in the room is lost. If you're micing up in another room... amp in the room tone is irrelevant, using an iso booth, again its irrelevant. As soon as you put a mic in front of that cabinet and send that signal to another listening source, then the amp in the room doesn't matter, you can record dry and play through a loud speaker in different rooms to get the room reverb.
But back to the point of the video since I did watch it.. gear surpassed the "good enough" point years ago... he is saying that now it should be a matter of what you can do with said gear that should be important, what are you creating with that gear.
One final point on how much closer can digital get... there is always room for improvement in analog and digital, how many boutique versions of a Vox AC30 are there? The amp has been improved upon but just because a Matchless exists doesn't make the surfaced mounted pcb versions not sound like a Vox AC30, one can sound better without removing the ability for the other to sound good.
I don't think analog will ever be fully replaced by digital, there is no scarcity to digital, there isn't much of a collectors market for digital. There isn't a code equivalent of the NKT275 transistor, in that aspect of it becoming unavailable. Besides, digital needs something to be able to model.
I tried the Helix family, while it was ok sounding I struggled with getting it to a point to even consider replacing my amps and pedals.
A few months ago I bought an Axe FX3, and was absolutely blown away with just the stock patches. I haven't even bothered to power up any of my amps since I got the Axe.
I do not have the luxury to play my amps though normal cabs with volume like I did when I was younger and single. I am able to power on my Axe and get great tone without disturbing the peace of my house, and my digital rigs are more consistent when moving from place to place. I don't see myself getting rid of my amps because on that rare occasion I can blast them and its great, and I don't want to lose that. Its also pretty cool seeing someone play through a cranked plexi for the first time.
I will say this though after going from analog to hybrid to digital... while it took a little while to get use to not feeling the sound pressure from the cabinets, I have gotten to the point where I really don't understand the amp in the room argument. As soon as you try and transition the sounds coming from the guitar speakers to any other speakers.. the amp in the room is lost. If you're micing up in another room... amp in the room tone is irrelevant, using an iso booth, again its irrelevant. As soon as you put a mic in front of that cabinet and send that signal to another listening source, then the amp in the room doesn't matter, you can record dry and play through a loud speaker in different rooms to get the room reverb.
But back to the point of the video since I did watch it.. gear surpassed the "good enough" point years ago... he is saying that now it should be a matter of what you can do with said gear that should be important, what are you creating with that gear.
One final point on how much closer can digital get... there is always room for improvement in analog and digital, how many boutique versions of a Vox AC30 are there? The amp has been improved upon but just because a Matchless exists doesn't make the surfaced mounted pcb versions not sound like a Vox AC30, one can sound better without removing the ability for the other to sound good.
I don't think analog will ever be fully replaced by digital, there is no scarcity to digital, there isn't much of a collectors market for digital. There isn't a code equivalent of the NKT275 transistor, in that aspect of it becoming unavailable. Besides, digital needs something to be able to model.