CrazyNutz
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I watch this guys analysis often. Usually pretty good, fact based, and non-biased.
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DrewJD82
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I’ll definitely check this out later.
Just going off the title of the video, I’m going to go with “That was A contributing factor” as I anxiously await the details of the investigation to find out why this dude “slipped through the cracks” after his family reported him to the police and the reserves unit he was registered with when he started reporting hearing voices in his head and threatening to shoot up the Saco Naval Station.
Just going off the title of the video, I’m going to go with “That was A contributing factor” as I anxiously await the details of the investigation to find out why this dude “slipped through the cracks” after his family reported him to the police and the reserves unit he was registered with when he started reporting hearing voices in his head and threatening to shoot up the Saco Naval Station.
70 Mach 1
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just happy he offf'ed himself and we dont have to waste 25 years worth of trials and appeals to convict him to death
84superchamp
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It’s the dominating mantra for the NRA; use existing laws to stop gun violence. All the laws were in place to stop that guy but those who should have acted did nothing.
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Bad Brain
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The US is uniquely violent IMO, and uniquely depraved. This can be proven in that we’ve had more lenient laws historically, and didn’t seem to have the same problem. Whatever the root cause, the gun didn’t get up and go shoot people.
Dan Gleesak
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Eh that’s a pretty weak argument. Take any weapon that is actually illegal, and those don’t get up and kill people either.
Why can’t people make bombs? They don’t go off on their own.
Sure comparing a bomb to an ar-15 is a little silly, but when you think about why one is legal and the other is not, it’s not so silly.
Bad Brain
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Are you suggesting that there are less bombings and more shootings because bombs are illegal? You’re not addressing my point: gun laws have gotten more strict as mass shootings have increased. According to your logic, we should have had more shootings when gun laws were more lax.
Dan Gleesak
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That isn’t my logic at all. I’m saying that “guns don’t kill on their own” is a pointless argument. Everything that is illegal is illegal because of human actions.
I am saying that if you used the same logic for why something like bombs are illegal and applied it to something like semi automatic rifles, it makes absolutely no sense why one is legal and the other is not.
Bad Brain
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Well, a bomb kills indiscriminately. and even then, people are allowed to own and use explosives right? A gun can kill indiscriminately, but only if the person chooses to use it that way. Same with a car for that matter. You’re not addressing my point about the times and culture in which we live.
psychodave
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I find it interesting that there hasn’t been more media and anti gun coverage. That usually means it doesn’t fit the left’s narrative. ?
CRAIG4FSU
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Bull fucking shit…
CrazyNutz
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I think one of the problems is we don't see mass shooting data per capita We just see the numbers going up per year. But we are also growing in people per year.
Also I still go back to mentally ill people are free to be mentally ill wherever the fuck they want, and they clearly have no problems getting guns.
There used to be mental institutions that kept these people off the streets. Now there's not. And if we did still have mental institutions people like Alex fucking Jones would be in one instead of having a huge following.
These are the problems I see.
Also I still go back to mentally ill people are free to be mentally ill wherever the fuck they want, and they clearly have no problems getting guns.
There used to be mental institutions that kept these people off the streets. Now there's not. And if we did still have mental institutions people like Alex fucking Jones would be in one instead of having a huge following.
These are the problems I see.
Bad Brain
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These people are no doubt spiritually ill at least — go back and look at my post a few back. And there are already laws that preclude gun ownership for the mentally incompetent, as ruled by a court. And there are red flag laws, which can be abused. If you’re gun rights supporter, I’d be careful with linking ownership to some kind of subjective mental fitness test.
Bad Brain
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You know that the Soviets used mental institutions as a political tool against the opposition right?
Dan Gleesak
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I can’t say I see any more gun control now than 20 years ago or so if that is what you’re asking.
I’m not calling for guns to be banned or anything, I’ve just yet to see a compelling argument for guns to be legal.
Dan Gleesak
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It’s an interesting quote. One could take it as a quote about gun control in the US, or it could be taken as a quote about the way mental health is treated in the US.
Or both.
Either way has quite a bit of substance imo
Bad Brain
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I’m talking 70 years ago.
Dan Gleesak
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So are you saying there were more guns in civilian hands 70 years ago, or less? I guess I’m confused at what point you are trying to make.
CRAIG4FSU
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It would be extremely naive to believe that quote and think it’s exclusive to a particular country.
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