Monkey Man
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... which is why they should never, ever be allowed to moderate humans.
DrewJD82
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The cunt thought businesses were telling people he was a pedophile.
https://www.bangordailynews.com/202...ved-businesses-broadcasting-he-was-pedophile/
And the US Army found him undeployable due to his mental health-
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67263059
I grew up with guns, was shooting a .22 alone in the woods when I was 8 and all the usual shit people who grew up in the country say, they’re a way of life up in Maine for many, many people. While I believe everyone should have the right to protect theirselves and homes with a firearm, I believe that right ends when you become a danger to society.
A few years back when my marriage went to shit, I almost shot myself. Fortunately I left the house instead, but because that period was completely fucked, we gave our guns to a trusted friend for safe keeping until that period was over with. I had no problem doing so, I did not feel less of a man or less worthy in any way for doing so, it was one of the most responsible decisions I could have made at the time because I very clearly saw how a split second decision could have changed the lives of every person I knew, permanently and in one of the worst ways possible. And hell, the way my ex was going, we weren’t too far removed from her just shooting me or herself.
IMO, part of responsible gun ownership is knowing when firearms should not be part of the equation. Even if that means deeming yourself unfit to possess one for a length of time or ceding to the fact that you may be unable to determine that on your own if everyone in your family who loves and wants you around finds you unfit to possess one.
https://www.bangordailynews.com/202...ved-businesses-broadcasting-he-was-pedophile/
And the US Army found him undeployable due to his mental health-
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67263059
I grew up with guns, was shooting a .22 alone in the woods when I was 8 and all the usual shit people who grew up in the country say, they’re a way of life up in Maine for many, many people. While I believe everyone should have the right to protect theirselves and homes with a firearm, I believe that right ends when you become a danger to society.
A few years back when my marriage went to shit, I almost shot myself. Fortunately I left the house instead, but because that period was completely fucked, we gave our guns to a trusted friend for safe keeping until that period was over with. I had no problem doing so, I did not feel less of a man or less worthy in any way for doing so, it was one of the most responsible decisions I could have made at the time because I very clearly saw how a split second decision could have changed the lives of every person I knew, permanently and in one of the worst ways possible. And hell, the way my ex was going, we weren’t too far removed from her just shooting me or herself.
IMO, part of responsible gun ownership is knowing when firearms should not be part of the equation. Even if that means deeming yourself unfit to possess one for a length of time or ceding to the fact that you may be unable to determine that on your own if everyone in your family who loves and wants you around finds you unfit to possess one.
Dan Gleesak
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... which is why they should never, ever be allowed to moderate humans.
How many bots have we seen you shoot dead lol
Monkey Man
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I was going to say, "... moderate, except for bots of course", but went for the specificity of "humans", so good call Brother Dan.
Bad Brain
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You think. I'd venture that people with real mental issues are less likely to commit these sorts of crimes. The real problem boils down to "psychopathy," or total lack of empathy, which is difficult to detect and treat and over-represented in positions of power anyways. We live in a knuckle-dragging and violent culture. This is the root problem, not one-off verifiable lunatics who are likely a product of their environment anyways.
Dan Gleesak
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But to use your own analogy, what separates us from the apes is society and therefore laws. Laws to protect people. Laws that should reflect the society they are governing
Bad Brain
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I'm not following homey.
Bad Brain
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"He started hearing voices around the same time he obtained hearing aids." ?
CrazyNutz
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What is "real" mental issues? Disabling ones like "mental retardation", and downs syndrome?
I have family members with real schizophrenia, they hear voices. Those voices are almost always negative, and the person hearing them CAN NOT distinguish if they are real, or not. Also the voices are of people they either know, or have come in contact with at some point.
That's a real mental issue, bro. You'd have to imagine you get tired of hearing those voices talking shit.
Again, like I said the families of these people have their hands tied. They can't really do shit. One of the people I'm talking about is my nephew. We tried to keep him somewhere safe, and where others were safe from him (although he was never really a danger to people, other than maybe property) Every place said, he has to be willing to accept help. LOL people in this fucking condition don't make the choice to accept the help. We haven't seen him for over a year now, so we assume the worse.
CrazyNutz
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Doubt it, he probably bought the hearing aids to try to hear them more clearly, and to pinpoint where it's coming from.
I have another family member with schizophrenia that buys devices to do just this, bug scanning device, etc..
Bad Brain
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I'm not arguing there aren't real mental issues. I just suspect that population is actually under-represented in crimes like this. And I agree it's reasonable to suspect those people suffering like that would want to end it, but that's very different from acting violently towards others. Sorry to hear about your family members and nephew.
rsm
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The Maine bowling alley was a "gun free zone". It didn't stop the shooter.
CRAIG4FSU
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People. There’s no way you’re being sincere in this thread, Dan.
Dan Gleesak
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Sure I am. If guns don’t kill people, and mental illness isn’t causing people to kill others, then why is gun violence so prevalent? Part of solving a problem is finding out why it’s happening, other than that it’s just putting in bandaids ya know?
“it’s just people bein people” doesn’t solve anything
Bad Brain
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How about teach people that violence isn't the way to solve problems, starting with the coercive state and it's endless war agenda, police brutality, child corporeal punishment, etc. Even if we lived in a more evolved world, you'd still see some level of violence, because we are just glorified chimps after all.
Dan Gleesak
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But why is America light years ahead of every other country in the world, especially gun violence? I mean it’s not even close. Are the glorified chimps different here or the gun laws?
Bad Brain
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Yeah, I think America and it's culture are uniquely violent. I maintain there is nothing inherent in a gun, knife or any weapon that increases the likelihood it would be used. It boils down the the individual and they reflect their environment to a large degree, apart from the natural tendencies of humans. Consider a pit-bull. Sure, some genetics are involved, but you have to abuse the crap out of them to get them to be as nasty as some of them are.
rsm
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Laputan Machine
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Interesting that Brazil has the highest gun death rate, but up until recently had very stringent gun control laws (self defense was considered not a valid reason to own a firearm).
Then Bolsonaro greatly relaxed gun control laws and "After the relaxation on gun laws in 2019 by President Jair Bolsonaro, the number of deaths registered by homicide was 19% lower compared to 2018 (51,558), while in 2019 the registered number was 41,635 being the lowest number of homicide deaths since 2007.[15]"
Then Bolsonaro greatly relaxed gun control laws and "After the relaxation on gun laws in 2019 by President Jair Bolsonaro, the number of deaths registered by homicide was 19% lower compared to 2018 (51,558), while in 2019 the registered number was 41,635 being the lowest number of homicide deaths since 2007.[15]"
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