Rock is dead

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Atropos_Project":1vwb4fy5 said:
guitarmike":1vwb4fy5 said:
I started listening to rock music in 1975 (I was 12). You always had to dig deep to find good music, it mostly was not on the radio and there was no Internet......

This was my experience as well. Radio did absolutely nothing to directly tailor my listening habits at a young age, it was hand-me-down albums, and then word of mouth. So it always makes me raise an eyebrow when folks complain about the radio being bad, or generic, etc, as if something different should be expected from it. Radio was just never on (aside from 1930's era music AM radio at the grandparents house) when I was growing up.

As far as D. Grohl goes... I'm hard pressed to think of many other artists who started out in one band that made it pretty big, completely changed their role as a musician, and went on to even more success in an entirely different band. As much as I could write about how misleading his "anyone can be in a rock band and make it big" screed is, credit should be given where it's due.

I dunno.. I manage to find enough modern music to keep me happy. There might not be many bands playing the exact sort of rock that was being done 30-40 years ago, and I'm ok with that. It's fair to appreciate that music for what it was, and keep an open mind to some of what's out there now.

/rant
All truths
 
Gearhog":2g6z29ao said:
Chris O":2g6z29ao said:
Learn about Sweden. They get it.
This. Hardcore Superstar smokes. Killer vocals, Killer guitar, Killer drums.

Scandinavia as a whole gets it!!! Jorn is also a great choice as well as Eclipse, WET, Evergrey to name a few!!
 
I wonder if some time back in the mid-50s there was a group of over the hill jazz cats lamenting the death of bebop and how kids will never know what they're missing by listening to the dumbed down rock and roll shit they were hearing on the radio...
 
They knew how to rock in the 20's and 30's.. Glen Miller band-- In The Mood... Van Halen on saxophone, Benny Goodman-- Yngwie Malmsteen on a clarinet. Big Band Swing rocked, then came... that damn rock n roll in the 50's..
 
HilltopExplosion":2uji3g9a said:
They knew how to rock in the 20's and 30's.. Glen Miller band-- In The Mood... Van Halen on saxophone, Benny Goodman-- Yngwie Malmsteen on a clarinet. Big Band Swing rocked, then came... that damn rock n roll in the 50's..

Good point. The 50's through the mid 60's was not a hot bed of well crafted music, although the bands had to be able to play and sing. It wasn't until the late 60's that rock musicians started writing pieces of music with complexity and parts. It peaked in the mid to late 70's and died with Nirvana. Perhaps the craft of song writing will return, it just may not be in the rock genre.
 
guitarmike":5znc1h07 said:
Good point. The 50's through the mid 60's was not a hot bed of well crafted music, although the bands had to be able to play and sing. It wasn't until the late 60's that rock musicians started writing pieces of music with complexity and parts. It peaked in the mid to late 70's and died with Nirvana. Perhaps the craft of song writing will return, it just may not be in the rock genre.

If anything, the 90s were a return to good songwriting. If you're looking for rock epics, November Rain and The Unforgiven come to mind. If you're looking for complex, Smashing Pumpkins and Dream Theater.

Alice in Chains, Pantera, Guns 'n Roses, Janes Addiction, Tool, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Soundgarden, Nine Inch Nails, Body Count, Blind Mellon, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Rollins Band, The Cranberries, Primus, Stone Temple Pilots, Porno for Pyros, Violent Femmes, Foo Fighters, Green Day, My Bloody Valentine, Depeche Mode, Ministry, White Zombie, Weezer, Pearl Jam, Rage Against the Machine, The Cure, Kyuss, Queens of the Stoneage, Hole, Butthole Surfers, Rainbow Butt Monkeys...

... and Nirvana. :lol: :LOL:

... and Aerosmith, Blink 182, No Doubt, Oasis, Radiohead, Beck, Offspring, Tom Petty, Korn, Garbage, Faith No More, Counting Crows, The Presidents of the United States of America, Sonic Youth, Lenny Kravitz, Incubus, The Black Crows, Jewel, Modest Mouse, Rancid, Dinosaur Jr, Everclear, even Neil Young was still kickin' it.


What do we have now?

15 FUCKING YEARS OF
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HilltopExplosion":1hovwoon said:
.. that damn rock n roll in the 50's..
Man your telling me.
There was a good 6 month period where all I listened to was 50s rock n roll.
So fresh. recommend it to anyone. Cleanses the soul. :D
 
Mailman1971":1bo0lwou said:
HilltopExplosion":1bo0lwou said:
.. that damn rock n roll in the 50's..
Man your telling me.
There was a good 6 month period where all I listened to was 50s rock n roll.
So fresh. recommend it to anyone. Cleanses the soul. :D

Bill Black, Boots Randolph, Chuck Berry, Fats, Roy Orbison, Jerry Lee..and yes.. Elvis, big list... I grew up on that stuff.
 
some dude":300n065p said:
guitarmike":300n065p said:
Good point. The 50's through the mid 60's was not a hot bed of well crafted music, although the bands had to be able to play and sing. It wasn't until the late 60's that rock musicians started writing pieces of music with complexity and parts. It peaked in the mid to late 70's and died with Nirvana. Perhaps the craft of song writing will return, it just may not be in the rock genre.

If anything, the 90s were a return to good songwriting. If you're looking for rock epics, November Rain and The Unforgiven come to mind. If you're looking for complex, Smashing Pumpkins and Dream Theater.

Alice in Chains, Pantera, Guns 'n Roses, Janes Addiction, Tool, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Soundgarden, Nine Inch Nails, Body Count, Blind Mellon, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Rollins Band, The Cranberries, Primus, Stone Temple Pilots, Porno for Pyros, Violent Femmes, Foo Fighters, Green Day, My Bloody Valentine, Depeche Mode, Ministry, White Zombie, Weezer, Pearl Jam, Rage Against the Machine, The Cure, Kyuss, Queens of the Stoneage, Hole, Butthole Surfers, Rainbow Butt Monkeys...

... and Nirvana. :lol: :LOL:

... and Aerosmith, Blink 182, No Doubt, Oasis, Radiohead, Beck, Offspring, Tom Petty, Korn, Garbage, Faith No More, Counting Crows, The Presidents of the United States of America, Sonic Youth, Lenny Kravitz, Incubus, The Black Crows, Jewel, Modest Mouse, Rancid, Dinosaur Jr, Everclear, even Neil Young was still kickin' it.


What do we have now?

15 FUCKING YEARS OF
kroeger2.jpg

Agree 100%
 
HilltopExplosion":3e8jqasn said:
some dude":3e8jqasn said:
guitarmike":3e8jqasn said:
Good point. The 50's through the mid 60's was not a hot bed of well crafted music, although the bands had to be able to play and sing. It wasn't until the late 60's that rock musicians started writing pieces of music with complexity and parts. It peaked in the mid to late 70's and died with Nirvana. Perhaps the craft of song writing will return, it just may not be in the rock genre.

If anything, the 90s were a return to good songwriting. If you're looking for rock epics, November Rain and The Unforgiven come to mind. If you're looking for complex, Smashing Pumpkins and Dream Theater.

Alice in Chains, Pantera, Guns 'n Roses, Janes Addiction, Tool, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Soundgarden, Nine Inch Nails, Body Count, Blind Mellon, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, Rollins Band, The Cranberries, Primus, Stone Temple Pilots, Porno for Pyros, Violent Femmes, Foo Fighters, Green Day, My Bloody Valentine, Depeche Mode, Ministry, White Zombie, Weezer, Pearl Jam, Rage Against the Machine, The Cure, Kyuss, Queens of the Stoneage, Hole, Butthole Surfers, Rainbow Butt Monkeys...

... and Nirvana. :lol: :LOL:

... and Aerosmith, Blink 182, No Doubt, Oasis, Radiohead, Beck, Offspring, Tom Petty, Korn, Garbage, Faith No More, Counting Crows, The Presidents of the United States of America, Sonic Youth, Lenny Kravitz, Incubus, The Black Crows, Jewel, Modest Mouse, Rancid, Dinosaur Jr, Everclear, even Neil Young was still kickin' it.


What do we have now?

15 FUCKING YEARS OF
kroeger2.jpg

Agree 100%
Isnt that the lead singer from Hanson?
Man he is looking good these days.
MMMMMMMMM....Bop. what a great tune.
 
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