Room acoustics and miking up cabs

[Milerky2]

I found - and I'm not an expert - that the best tones I get are with a dynamic close up on axis (I use an MD421 too, same amp and cab) paired with a condenser or ribbon in the room. I "use" the close mic for attack and clarity, and the room mic for warmth and tone.

Do you not get any phasing issues with this? I would think you would since you have 1 mic close and 1 far away...

at the church i work at fellow rig-talk member Drucifer is using a Laney head and a marshall 4x12 with celestions and warehouse speakers. I am including pics of the 57 and condensor mic technique I am using.

the trick here is I pull the condensor out of phase along with the distance i pull it away.

this allows me to use the comb filtering created to sit the guitar into the mix better.

it is easier to get the sound right at the source than to fix it in post.

in a recording situation you can shift the mics back and forth in time to adjust the comb filtering to taste, but live i have to get it right. (my console does allow me to set delays per channel as well, but not everyone has that luxury.)

hope this helps!

edit- couldn't upload pics from tablet...

I will try this tomorrow. I will also try putting my cab in a room that is better than my bedroom for recording My bedroom is just pretty small, and there is not much sound absorption, so the sound bounces around a lot.

Small rooms can have problems with standing waves, typically in lows and low mids, that can reflect back into mics even at low levels. This causes the appearance of loss in the highs.

A larger space can help, as can low pass filters on the channels. you can safely kill any frequencies from below 80hz in a recording all the way up to 120hz. This leaves space for the kick and bass to be heard. Just because the guitar and amp create those frequencies, doesn't mean that the recording HAS to have them. DON'T BE AFRAID TO EXPERIMENT!